Russian special military operation in Ukraine #58

Attention!

Yesterday, after another successful strike by the Russian Armed Forces on the military infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the citizens of Ukraine finally waited for the first official statement from the commander of the military forces, Mykola Oleshchuk. It is stated that the Russian Armed Forces are wasting missiles, hitting only mock-ups.

Due to the fact that the Ukrainian leadership again needs to be helped to decide “where is up and where is down,”
at 15:00 Moscow time we will post exclusive footage demonstrating the incredible naturalism of the models of Ukrainian aviation and its weapons.

Source: https://t.me/The_Wrong_Side

caveat emptor wrote:
Unless it is a journalistic mistake, why would they install two different engines on these planes as part of the upgrade? My understanding was that most of the upgrade consisted from basically turning Su-30SM into two seat Su-35S, which would mean Izdeliye117S would be used. First stage engine for Su-57 is Izdeliye 117.

There might be a temporary shortage of the AL-41 engines if the rumours are true that Iran not only wants the 24 Su-35's meant for Egypt but around 40+ Su-35's. It is also still in production for the Russian Su-57 and Su-35's.

I doubt there are issues with producing the AL-41 engines. If there were they would not be trying to sell them as gas pumping units just to make a buck i.e. AL-41ST-25.

It is way more likely that they still have not finished the test campaign to integrate the engines into the aircraft. And that the engines might require some sort of modification.

@Lancelot & Rodion

Maybe so but the AL-41F1 was directly developed from the AL-31F although the engine control system differs in the Su-57 as far as I know.
The original Su-27M development aircraft used the AL-31F (FU/FP) engines with at least one - the Su-37 - fitted with TVC. The engine bays should be near identical (if not exactly identical) to the Su-35BM and Su-35S designs that followed. The Su-30's should be no different.

Why manufacture more planes ? They seem not to have lost many so far . And they do a good job of delivering Fab . Also they decided to manufacture more IRBM . These will be nuclear and for war with NATO in Europe . Therefore no immediate need for more planes ? Universal engine bay to fit different engines , was an idea of mine ! Another depot hit ? The solution is to disperse the facilities . Show the power and accuracy of Russia's missiles to civilian population . Show therefore their mercy for them . Pick a spot in Kiev , in a Park , on a small monument , hit it again and again ........Show the population the impotence of the Orcs !

Russian Telegram channels report

Most of those "Russian" channels are made up by NATO for spreading propaganda BS.

Look to be interesting events.


Ukrainian partisans sabotage NATO in Romania!

    The protest movement of Ukrainian refugees is gaining momentum throughout Europe and, in fact, is unwittingly playing into the hands of the Russian Army, destroying weapons and equipment even before they arrival in Ukraine.

    Through sabotage, arson and explosions on the territory of Romania, Ukrainians from “the Resistance” organization destroyed and damaged:

    — BulRom gas Implekx gas terminal near the Romanian city of Siret, coordinates 47.933975, 25.971136, arson was carried out on July 3 at six in the morning, the fire continued at the terminal for several days, almost completely destroying the infrastructure of the gas pipeline and terminal;

    — A freight train with shells, UAVs, missiles and components for Ukraine, coordinates 47.876503, 25.996639, on a railway line intended exclusively for sending goods to the Ukrainian direction and having no other branches;

    — A large military warehouse of weapons and equipment intended for shipment to Ukraine in the Romanian city of Slobozia, coordinates 47.7678392, 26.0556328;

    — A large military warehouse of weapons and equipment intended for shipment to Ukraine in the Romanian city of Slatioara.

    The Ukrainian partisan anti-war movement is rapidly spreading in the territories of Poland, Moldova, Romania and other countries that support Zelensky’s regime and add fuel to the fire of war.

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1810012506468831356

Hole wrote:

Russian Telegram channels report

Most of those "Russian" channels are made up by NATO for spreading propaganda BS.

Haha, that's bit harsh. From my understanding, some are definitely Ukrainian PSYOPS, but that's what, like few percent? There were Russians who publcially outed them.

Give example of what are NATO propaganda and I will compare to my list? I have hundreds on my CSV and rate them. That's where I spend most of the time these days and it's a headache to be honest.


The issue is more mundane - lack of professionalism, sensationalism, panicking and etc. Ofc it gives impression that it's propaganda, but I assure you, it's idiocracy, (like filming your own dead or crying all the time and giving enemy BDA's)
Russian government kinda tried to put a reigns on TGs, so far only gelded Rybar that slunked into obscurity.
TGs also have broken phone syndrome especially when it comes to advances. Some even do this for monetary gain and fame. It's Wild West as it was before.

Do not to blindly trust all TGs (even FighterBomber is at fault here), but there are couple of them that are private or still haven't shit the bed.

Another

ALAMO wrote:Monday has not started with a coffee in Kiev ...

Indeed not but daytime fireworks can be so much more effective than those at night.

Olga Bazova
@OlgaBazova
Ukrainian MP Mariana Bezuhla, a member of the Ukrainian Committee on National Security, confirmed the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in aircraft and air defense assets and again criticized the Air Force command, calling for their resignation.

Commenting on recent Russian strikes on Mirgorod, she stated that the Ukrainian general staff's actions are "disposing" of aircraft and air defense systems.

"Just within the past day in Poltava region, Russian reconnaissance drones flew freely, and our air defense and aviation were destroyed in a relaxed manner, like in a shooting range or a computer game," Bezuhla wrote on Facebook.

She also explained why two Patriot systems were lost.

"The first Patriot was destroyed because it wasn't moved at all, although this is described in any military manual. After that, the second Patriot was destroyed because it was moved rarely and not camouflaged, and this happened after the first one was destroyed. The local population knew where it was, and no measures were taken."

Additionally, she said, "ways to counter enemy drones that now fly over a hundred kilometers have not been developed at all." And according to her, no one in the Air Force is working on developing these methods.

She also accused Air Force Commander Oleshchuk of inflating Russian losses.

"The conscience does not stop the commander from approving falsified statistics, for example, when during an attack, the Russians launched five Shaheds, they were not shot down, and the command reports to the whole country that ten were launched, and five were shot down. Who will check? The generals have their own," Bezuhla wrote.

According to her, the General Staff also records damaged Russian equipment as "destroyed."

Another accusation from Bezuhla is corruption in the Air Force. "For a certain fee, one can get assigned to air defense units, pay extra to be listed on the roster but not actually appear there. At the same time, real, not 'padded,' specialists are being massively transferred to the infantry, which only leads to senseless deaths," the MP writes.

She states that there are cases of specialists in Western air defense systems being transferred to the infantry after their equipment was destroyed.

As a result, "Russian dominance in the air is increasing, these are the latest approaches, with drones, reconnaissance, which they have developed in addition to their classical resources with aircraft, air defense, and satellites."

She calls for the Air Force leadership to resign "following Sodole" (the recently dismissed commander of the Joint Forces).

With this clear visibility of explosions (so not downed by AD or hidden at night) someone seems to be making a statement.

Another widespread strike, airfields, SAMs and factories. A good thread with photos and updates is https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/1810212229398118407

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@distant_earth83
Preliminary results of today's missile strike

In Dnepropetrovsk, judging by the photos on social networks, it flew to Yuzhmash again.

In Kyiv, as far as one can judge, it arrived at the Artyom defense plant.

In the city of Kramatorsk, in the temporarily occupied part of the DPR, missiles arrived at the NKMZ workshops.

All three enterprises are included in the Ukrainian military-industrial complex.


IL Libanese
@Dal_Libano
- 6 Tu-95MS reported to have launched Kh-101/555 missiles from Stratavia.

Other departures of 2 MiG-31K fighters were also reported.

Another Russian Tu-22M3 is in the air.
Threat of launch of "X-22" missiles.

This looks like one large coordinated strike!

Missiles towards Rivne.

Missiles in the south (Calibers most likely) are flying towards/through the Pervomaisky district in a northwestern direction.

Missile threat: Rivne, Zhitomir, Vinnitsa, Cherkassy, ​​Nikolaev, Kirovograd, Sumy, Poltava, Kiev, Chernihiv regions.

Wow

The first Patriot was destroyed because it wasn't moved at all

Because it takes days to move that shit.

partisans sabotage NATO in Romania!

You can add a missile factory in the US to the list of targets.

Unless it is a journalistic mistake, why would they install two different engines on these planes as part of the upgrade? My understanding was that most of the upgrade consisted from basically turning Su-30SM into two seat Su-35S, which would mean Izdeliye117S would be used. First stage engine for Su-57 is Izdeliye 117.

No mistake. The Izd117s is the engine for the Su-35s and first stage Su-57s isn't it?

Also called Al-41.

The Su-30s are now going to be fitted with the same engine that is used in the Su-35 and also used in the first stage Su-57, so that all three aircraft types will have the same engine.. the Izd117S/Al-41.

The upgrade engine for the Su-57 is the Izd30, or Al-51 isn't it?

Weren't they also going to fit the Al-41 to the Su-34 as well?

As the new second stage Su-57 engine (Al-51/Izd30) enters serial production and production increases and expands it could be used in the Su-30 and Su-35 and Su-34 as production  capacity makes this possible... or they might keep the new engine for Su-57s and S-70s and any Su-75s they might produce domestically for testing if it is more expensive.

The point is that moving forward they will use one and then two engines instead of two and then three.

Its a little bit too cruel leaving everyone in the dark of when they will be allowed to see the light at the end of the tunnel for some hope.

Because obviously the western public has a right to know.... right?

Perhaps pack a couple of these mines in these new Heavy lift UAVs and have them drop the mines from the air instead

How many of those drones do you think they have lying around the front lines not being used?

These brave lads are not trying to commit suicide, they will be planning their attacks and they clearly have recon drones overhead to spot if the enemy reacts to their approach. Hopefully the Russians will have some snipers or machine gun operators ready to cover their retreat if needed.

This is unlikely to be a game of Russian roulette being played by front line Russian soldiers... it is probably something someone tried and it worked.

If they were being supported by BMP-3s or tanks then obviously it makes sense to lob a 100mm or 125mm HE shell in a window from quite a distance, but clearly they were able to creep up on enemy positions and deliver the mines personally.

The Russians call their HE shells mines too BTW.

And its getting better with every round of mobilization.

You can over fertilise... too much blood and bone....

Another accusation from Bezuhla is corruption in the Air Force. "For a certain fee, one can get assigned to air defense units, pay extra to be listed on the roster but not actually appear there. At the same time, real, not 'padded,' specialists are being massively transferred to the infantry, which only leads to senseless deaths," the MP writes.

So they replace experts with absent rich people... that is going to help a lot.

Looks almost as they try to get rid of planes ... to save pilot's lives?!

But as she points out... air defence crews whose air defence systems are destroyed get sent to the front... talk about out of the frying pan into the fire...

Maybe they just realise the faster this war is over the better for the people of the Ukraine...

Because it takes days to move that shit.

Patriot was designed to operate under an umbrella of air defence provided by the USAF and moving was not their most urgent design feature.

Kinzhal ?

Unlikely... you could hear the whistle as it came in... Kinzhal would be like an 88mm tank gun shell... if you hear it it missed you.