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    Post  JohninMK Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:57 pm

    SIMPLICIUS Ѱ reposted
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     It is reported that the Su-57 and Su-34M crews have begun using Kh-69 ASM with cluster warheads against strategically important rear facilities of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 🇺🇦. These missiles are highly effective in destroying personnel at training grounds, infantry concentrations, and aircraft in open parking lots, as well as passive and active phased array radar stations.

    The first Kh-69s delivered to the combat units of the VKS were equipped with penetrating-frag-HE warheads and demonstrated their high potential in overcoming the Ukrainian Air Force's anti-missile barriers formed by mixed batteries of Patriot PAC-2 GEM-C / PAC-3MSE air defense systems. This potential was achieved due to the low-altitude flight profile and the widespread use of composite materials and radar-absorbing materials in the airframe design, reducing the effective reflective surface to 0.02 - 0.03 sq. m. The Kh-69's range reaches 290 km

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:02 am

    Sorry, but I just had to post this Laughing Laughing 

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:18 am

    This seems to be a good explanation of the NK heading for Russia.



    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #61 - Page 35 GaMGzQxWwAAlrza?format=png&name=900x900

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:25 am

    The Ukrainian GUR published a photo of the North Korean battalion commander Laughing

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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:47 am

    It seems to me that Zelenskys victory plan appears to be either you give us nukes or immediate membership of HATO, and in return the west gets the entire mineral wealth of the territory of the Ukraine, but also the use of Ukrainian soldiers to defend Europe from further threats from Russia... ie US troops can go back to the US and Ukrainian troops will replace them in European countries.

    It almost looks like they want to take over Americas protection racket of the EU/HATO and their fighting Russia these last three years is their credentials for being suited to that role.

    Obviously the US is not going to give up its fingers in the EU pie, it is much harder to control when you don't have troops there on the ground...

    Another problem for Zelensky is that much of the most valuable Ukrainian territory with a lot of those valuable materials is in territory they are currently in the process of giving up.

    Western support for Kiev is not going to last another 3 years, and Z is not giving Russia many other options except to continue as they are going and to keep the foot on the throat.

    Hopefully in the background they are looking for moderate Ukrainians that can replace those that can't be trusted... or they can just continue till the Ukrainian military collapses and Russian troops have to occupy the country while referendums are set up for the people to decide.

    The Ukrainian GUR published a photo of the North Korean battalion commander

    Battallion commander? This man is wearing the uniform of the Ukrainian President... Twisted Evil

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    Post  Kiko Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:32 am

    The whole of Ukraine will crumble: the loss of one city will kill the West's plan for victory, by Kirill Strelnikov for RiaNovosti. 10.20.2024.

    Our opponents have never lacked large-scale, convincing, well-calculated and superbly substantiated plans, each of which was capable of bringing Russia to its knees and forcing it to do something, several times in a row. Such plans include the grandiose counteroffensive of 2023, the adventure in the Kursk region, and a whole series of magical "betrayal victories." Yes, they ended in failure, but now the West has another plan that finally "should change everything."

    However, the fate of what may be the last super-plan of our opponents (and probably the entire SVO) depends on one small town 60 kilometers from Donetsk.

    Biden's caution, refusing to sharply increase military supplies, and the real prospect of a Trump presidency, who has threatened to turn off the tap to Ukraine altogether, have forced Zelensky's gang and his masters to desperately search for "option B".

    This option was first voiced in detail by the so-called Institute for the Study of War (ISW) on January 14 this year in the report "Ukraine's Long-Term Path to Success: Building a Self-Sufficient Defense Industrial Base with US and EU Support ." According to the report, "Ukraine's efforts to create a military-industrial complex will help not only it, but also NATO countries ," meaning that the Europeans can now stop worrying about the stalled militarization of their economy and can simply buy their way out.

    Apparently, the bait was swallowed, and recently the European Union announced a new approach to supporting Ukraine - "Investments instead of weapons", for which a special fund was quickly created, and money was urgently collected for the Ukrainian military-industrial complex (they have found about a billion so far). In their joy, the Europeans admitted that they did not know what to do: the powerful European military-industrial complex had made a mistake, and the loud figures on the supply of shells and everything else to Ukraine were shamefully covered with a napkin. A few days ago, The Washington Post quoted another European diplomat, who, on condition of anonymity, said: "There is an understanding that Europe is not able to produce the weapons that Ukraine needs, and the easiest way for Ukrainians is to make them themselves. If Ukrainians have materials and money, they can do it themselves much faster."

    According to Western media, "in the near future, the flow of money into Ukraine's defense industry may increase dramatically." Anticipating profit, Zelensky switched on the "New Vasyuki" mode and announced that "the Ukrainian defense industry is now on the path to leadership, at least in Europe" - and soon Ukroboronprom will be able to produce weapons worth as much as $20 billion a year, including for export.

    Enchanted by the bright prospects and promises, Western military manufacturers rushed to sign agreements on joint production in Ukraine. For example, at the recent international defence industry forum in Kiev, 20 agreements and memorandums were signed on the production of drones, repair of military equipment, joint production of armored vehicles and ammunition, technology exchange and supply of components.

    It got to the point that the Minister of Strategic Industries of Ukraine, Alexander Kamyshin, who had become extremely emboldened, declared that “my goal is to make Ukraine the arsenal of the free world.”

    But behind the clinking of glasses, the Kiev gang and its friends forgot two things: first, military production makes no sense if there is no metal for it, mainly steel; second, Russian troops are standing on the threshold of Pokrovsk (Krasnoarmeysk in Russian), the quick and inevitable capture of which will cover all these imaginary mountains of weapons and money with a copper basin.

    Pokrovsk itself is a very important logistics hub, the capture of which will sharply worsen the situation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces along the entire eastern front. But no less, and perhaps more important, is the importance of Pokrovsk in the economy.

    About 15 kilometers from this city is the Krasnoarmeyskaya-Zapadnaya No. 1 mine, the only enterprise in the not yet liberated territory of Ukraine that produces coking coal (reserves are over 200 million tons). Coking coal is a critical element for the production of cast iron and steel. According to the most optimistic estimates, the loss of Pokrovsk (and, accordingly, the mine) will reduce steel production in Ukraine by 80%, but in reality everything is much worse.

    According to Stanislav Zinchenko, executive director of Ukrainian industrial consulting company GMK Center, "Kiev's loss of control over Krasnoarmeysk will lead to the complete collapse of the Ukrainian economy, since the city is a key source of coal for the country's steel and metallurgical industry," and "without steel mills, the Ukrainian economy will simply die."

    This forecast is shared by experts from The Economist: "The Ukrainian steel industry is under threat of destruction due to the approach of the Russian Armed Forces to Pokrovsk." According to experts familiar with the situation, without coal from Pokrovsk, the five remaining coke plants in Ukraine will stop, and ensuring even the minimum load of Ukrainian metallurgical plants will become a serious problem: it will not be possible to compensate for the lost coal volumes at the expense of Europe - there is simply no such capacity there, and sea shipments will be golden, as a result of which "the economy of metallurgical plants will go into a knockout." Result: the loss of Pokrovsk risks becoming the final point in the history of independent metallurgy.

    Yesterday, the head of the Pokrovsk administration, Sergei Dobryak, called on the remaining residents to evacuate immediately, adding that all city utilities were stopping their work in connection with the approach of Russian troops and that "heating the city during the winter period is no longer planned."

    Right now our soldiers are completing the encirclement of Selidovo, and there are about ten kilometers left to Pokrovsk.

    Let's wish our guys good luck: with the help of the "liberated" coal of Pokrovsk, millions of tons of steel for various military equipment will be produced in any case, but now the Russian flag will fly over it.

    https://ria.ru/20241020/ukraina-1978916403.html

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:54 am

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    The most funny part of this whole story is how it backfired.
    It was just one more fake narrative figured by the ukro psyops, that was set to stigmatize Russkie of how they are forced to use the military of a pariah North Korean state.
    What they have ended up with, is a whole Russkie language infosphere making memes and laughing at them.
    I have seen a dozen figured-out leaflets suggesting that those will be dropped on the ukro heads to make them learn how to surrender in Korean Laughing Laughing Laughing
    Ukrs are shitting their pants, because if there were a single truth in this whole story - it would be objectively scary for them Laughing
    As the ukrowehrmacht continues to hunt down men on the streets as dogs and operate a half manned "brigades" in the best Wehrmacht April 1945 style, NK has a special forces contingent of 200k personnel...
    A 50k NK special forces would be just enough to close a giant part of the border.
    And those men are highly trained in both infiltration and anti-saboteur - they would hunt down ukro DRGs like on a fukin hunting season...
    Those guys have been trained by a system at war for the last 70 years ...
    Try to imagine that Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Werewolf Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:07 am

    flamming_python wrote:The Ukrainian GUR published a photo of the North Korean battalion commander Laughing

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    Is that for real published by them?

    I mean they are not as stupid as that or are they playing 6th column?
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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:12 am

    Nah, it is a part of the meme war that is being carried at TG at the moment Laughing
    Russkie seems to really have a lot of fun Twisted Evil

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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:37 am

    This seems to be a good explanation of the NK heading for Russia.
    For those Banderites all Asians look the same.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:45 am

    To be fair, I guess that for NK special forces all the banderites would taste like chicken ...

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    Post  Arrow Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:57 am

    https://t.me/fighter_bomber/18506

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:00 pm

    Fun fact: In Russian Telegram channels, the Russian Army is often referred to as the 'Laotian Army'—especially when discussing top brass failures, mismanagement, or stupid decisions. I guess it's to avoid accusations of defamation of the Russian Armed Forces (which could be reported by those morons in high ranks).




    Russian Armed Forces hit mercenary deployment points in two Ukrainian regions

    Russian Armed Forces hit mercenary deployment points in Sumy and Kharkiv regions
    MOSCOW, 20 Oct — RIA Novosti. Russian troops successfully struck temporary accommodation points for foreign mercenaries in Ukraine, the Defense Ministry reported.
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    "Operational-tactical aviation, strike unmanned aerial vehicles, missile troops and artillery of the groups of troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation inflicted damage on temporary deployment points of foreign mercenaries, workshops for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles, places of their preparation and launch in the Sumy and Kharkiv regions," the report says.

    https://ria.ru/20241020/naemniki-1978972449.html

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    Post  franco Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:08 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2115 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including in Kursk.

    Ukrainian casualties in their Kursk operation now exceeds 25,000 along with over 2300 pieces of military equipment lost.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12533786@egNews

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    Post  franco Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:12 pm


    MOSCOW, 20 Oct — RIA Novosti. Russian air defense systems destroyed 110 Ukrainian drones over the Kursk, Lipetsk, Oryol, Nizhny Novgorod, Belgorod, Bryansk and Moscow regions last night, the Defense Ministry reported.
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    "The air defense systems on duty intercepted and destroyed 110 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles," the department emphasized.
    It is specified that:
    -43 drones were neutralized over the territory of the Kursk region ,
    -27 over Lipetsk,
    -18 over Oryol, and
    -eight over Nizhny Novgorod.
    -seven drones were shot down over the Belgorod region ,
    -six over the Bryansk region ,
    -one in the Moscow region.

    https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20241020/minoborony-1978946883.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  franco Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:53 pm

    flamming_python wrote:The Ukrainian GUR published a photo of the North Korean battalion commander Laughing

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    Notice the Wagner sign. May actually be an in for North Koreans to get combat experience for their cadre through "volunteering" as PMC with Wagner.
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    Post  franco Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:20 pm

    NOTE: Another point of view of what is happening with Ukrainian manpower.

    Interesting disclosure. Let's see what it tells us about the state of the Ukrainian military.⬇

    At least officially, Ukrainian troops receive five weeks of training - 35 days - before going to the front. Ergo, assuming everything was on the up and up, the AFU was getting 1000 new soldiers daily prior to May 2024. During that time period the Russian MoD was reporting around 1000 Ukrainian personnel incapacitated daily, which was probably more like 6-700 due to routine BDA overcounting.

    Ergo, prior to May 2024 the AFU would have been able to replace casualties - at least quantitatively, qualitatively is another matter - while still expanding and establishing new units at a modest pace. 1943 Wehrmacht-esque, really. This is borne out by the fact that Ukrainian mouthpieces were actively, if somewhat tentatively, discussing the establishment of new "160-series" brigades earlier this year.

    Then the bottom fell out. Two things happened in May 2024: (1) the Russians intensified attacks, more than doubling the number of Ukrainian casualties inflicted daily; and (2) the Zelensky regime purged its conscription apparatus on corruption grounds, replacing experienced personnel with yes-men. While Ukrainian press-gangs have always been hideously corrupt, they haven't gotten any less so after the purges, leading me to suspect that what actually happened was a transition from bribery to semi-regularized taxation of draft-dodgers with "bribes" being largely passed back to the regime.

    The combined effect of these (should this disclosure be accurate) was that since May the AFU has been taking around 1500 incapacitating casualties daily while only receiving 700 replacements. This has been happening for the last five months. Ergo, the AFU has likely shrunk by some 100,000 personnel over the course of the fighting since May. Establishing new Ukrainian formations is now out of the question and it's becoming apparent that even those currently in the field are seriously understrength, with rumors of some units wiped out and not reconstituted. This is a key explanation for the significant Russian gains of the last few months.

    https://x.com/ArmchairW/status/1847854486590517712

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:52 pm

    franco wrote:

    Notice the Wagner sign.

    I will give you a hint.
    It is a fake.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:26 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    franco wrote: Notice the Wagner sign.  

    I will give you a hint. It is a fake.

    Not necessarily. Around 150,000 Korean settlers still live in Russia (the migration started in the 1860s and continued until the early 1910s). So, it's possible that some Russian with Korean roots was there.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:38 pm

    So what's the situation at the front? Has Russia taken any more major fortified areas?
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:45 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Not necessarily. Around 150,000 Korean settlers still live in Russia (the migration started in the 1860s and continued until the early 1910s). So, it's possible that some Russian with Korean roots was there.

    They were all deported to Central Asia by Stalin so you're a bit late with that one

    Well aside from the Koreans the Japanese left over on Sakhalin Island. Those still live there.

    Although some of those from Central Asia have since returned to Russia.. and some even to South Korea. I knew a few. No takers to North Korea though funnily enough Twisted Evil
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    Post  Big_Gazza Yesterday at 2:38 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:So what's the situation at the front?  Has Russia taken any more major fortified areas?

    The noose around Selidovo tightens, as it does around Gornyak & Kurakhivka. Nazi regime officials continue to cry while their NATOstani benefactorers are kvetching in despair... Razz

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    Post  ucmvulcan Yesterday at 3:30 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:

    The noose around Selidovo tightens, as it does around Gornyak & Kurakhivka.  Nazi regime officials continue to cry while their NATOstani benefactorers are kvetching in despair...   Razz

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le6FwBypMrA

    For our friends in Russia and other unfairly sanctioned nations, this is a compilation of Mr Burns from The Simpsons saying excellent for about 2 minutes.

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    Post  Sujoy Yesterday at 8:11 am

    Ukraine's balloon drones

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