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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #61

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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:38 am

    Russia has not attacked energy infrastructure etc. for a long time.

    In several places the local authorities have said it can't be repaired before winter and that people will have to leave... likely no attacks because there is nothing left to attack.

    South Korean media claimed on Monday that Seoul could send military and intelligence personnel to Ukraine after the North dispatched troops to support Russia in the war.

    So there we have it... the goal of pretending North Korean troops are coming to fight Ukraine is the best excuse to get South Korean soldiers to come and fight for Kiev...

    Then Russia needs to KILL these interlopers along with their "volunteer" NATzO buddies

    The arrival of South Korean soldiers is not going to change things very much... other than give them first hand experience of what a conflict against a side that has powerful artillery and drone capability is going to be like in reality.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:35 am

    The UA are like someone trying to stop a big heavy ball from rolling down a steep hill and they know the only way they are going is backwards.

    Also the warm and dry weather is gone, it will be wet, cold and dark from now on with probable reducing supplies of food and ammo.

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    It could be said that Russian Army controls 30% of Chasov Yar. However, there are still pockets of resistance in some basements and houses. Meanwhile, Ukrainian Army continues to entrench itself in the city center and the forests full of trenches and bunkers. 

    Looking at the trend, we are witnessing an encircling movement of the city from the north and south that will put the Ukrainian forces in a difficult situation similar to the one their soldiers are in at Selydove. However, significant resistance is expected due to the strategic importance of the city being located on high ground. 

    Losing Chasov Yar means leaving Kostiantynivka exposed and therefore Toretsk in the south and Kramatorsk in the north.

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    Post  kvs Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:47 am

    No worries for Kiev, just press gang anyone down to the age of 18 as demanded by NATzO overseers and the Russians will be running to Siberia. //sarc

    Judging by the slow pace of the cleaning of the Kursk pocket, the rate of progress on the rest of the front is still following the attrition objective.
    So the rapid advances are all because the Ukr side is softening up so fast that Russia can't restrain itself to keep a static front. People keep talking
    about how Russia needs to wrap this operation up quickly. Why? NATzO is not going to surge supplies to the Kiev regime because it can't. If NATzO
    was so willing to put boots on the ground, then it could have done that at any time after 2014. For some reason the US did not build any Camp Bondsteel
    variants in Ukria after they fully took over in 2014. The South Korean posturing about helping Ukria because Russia is helping North Korea is total BS.
    They don't have enough soldiers to face the north and are going to shuffle some off to Ukria?

    People should watch the interview with Brian Berletic by the Duran.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:29 am

    Many, if not most, in the West fail to understand what Russia is intentionally doing, especially that Ukraine was a side show, albeit an important one. In particular, a rapid move or strike west that panicked US/NATO into doing something stupid.

    The last thing that Russia needed was to have anything to happen that upset their really important strategic plans for the future involving the US$ and BRICS.

    To date all seems to be going to plan, possibly better than they hoped given some of the strange decisions made by the leaders in the West.

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    Post  franco Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:01 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2345 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including Kursk;

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12534164@egNews

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:18 pm

    [quote="PhSt"]

    Then Russia needs to KILL these interlopers along with their "volunteer" NATzO buddies

    Why not also expand the list of Iskander and Bastion export customers. Or offer the help of Russian design bureaus to the DPRK.
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    Post  Belisarius Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:17 pm

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    Post  Hole Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:37 pm

    It could be said that Russian Army controls 30% of Chasov Yar.
    If some Twitter or Telegram channel claims 30% the number is propably closer to 60%.

    Quite possible that most if not all of Selidovo has fallen by now.
    Proving my point.

    strange decisions made by the leaders in the West.
    Because they are all victims of Russian interference!!!!
    lol1

    Or offer the help of Russian design bureaus to the DPRK.
    Already happening. Do you think that NK Iskander clone fell from the sky?


    I put this here because of the proximity to the SMO zone.
    According to Zvezda TV Beloussov stated that there will be a Zapad-2025 exercise
    with Belarus.

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    Post  LMFS Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:42 am

    Apes of the Ukrainian
    Armed Forces New information about dill tactics


    The APU and ukropia as a whole switched to the monkey tactic. What is it? This is when a clearing with delicious food is left for a stronger predator, and a flock of monkeys is forced to climb the surrounding trees and squeal at the winners walking below. That's exactly what Zelensky is doing these days-riding around the world where we can't get him, and screaming: then Korea, then the atomic bomb, then NATO… That is, he fights with his mouth, at a time when the Ukrainian "animals" who did not have time to escape are being finished off at the front.

    https://t.me/s/voenkorkhayrullin

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:39 am

    Russia grinds on and Ukropi apes die in the ditches...

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    Post  RTN Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:59 am

    Rumor has it, Russians are still targetting

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:10 am

    https://media.un.org/unifeed/en/asset/d328/d3286409

    "the government of Ukraine [...] has developed and recently adopted a new national demographic strategy"


    What strategy ? Suspect 

    Abudcting more civillians and throwing inexperienced youths to the meat grinders ? Suspect

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    Post  Isos Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:30 am

    RTN wrote:Rumor has it, Russians are still targetting


    I agree that sometimes they are dumb. They have S-5 rockets that suck against ground target, S-8 being better, so they should use them instead of doing this shit.

    Quad copter drones would also do the job from safe distance.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:20 pm

    RTN wrote:Rumor has it, Russians are still targetting


    another unemployed American, yeah you sanction a country and your economy goes to shit. Enjoy being fucked no matter who wins the shit show in two weeks

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:15 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:https://media.un.org/unifeed/en/asset/d328/d3286409
    "the government of Ukraine [...] has developed and recently adopted a new national demographic strategy"
    What strategy ? Suspect 
    Abudcting more civillians and throwing inexperienced youths to the meat grinders ? Suspect

    It is pointless to discuss any ukro "developing strategy" from any perspective other than a stand up comedy.

    I have spent half an hour today hearing an interview with two Polish political - let's say - commentators.
    The case is as much relevant, as one of them is an ex spokesman of the Polish MoFA. Who became famous by claiming that the Poles are servants of the Ukrainian nation.
    We still need to remember that a spokesman says what he is told to do, and that hardly represents any of his own opinion, but ...
    The guy lost his job a while ago, so now can - let's say - present his own opinions.
    And I had to say that it was sort of shockingly refreshing ...

    Ukraine is a fallen state.
    Its existence is valid only as a buffer zone.
    If retained as a statehood prosthesis, it can be still a reservoir of inexpensive labor.
    A fallen state faces an outflow of all sorts of resources, part of which will be located in Poland - so this is very good for our economy.
    Sponsoring the war was a wise move allowing both Ukr and Rus to bleed each other.
    Ukraine is driven by a bandera nazi ideology.
    Cocainsky's fate will be sad, as the best case scenario is that he will be allowed to run away.
    In worst-case scenario, he will be executed by the newly established government that will be formed on the basis of war veterans.


    Now let's not focus on the fact if that is anyhow real, but on the scale of cynicism he represents.
    It turned out after almost a 3 years of war, and two mln victims, that nobody even tried to hide that they were used as a tool.
    And represent the value of a used condom at the moment.
    This is how the superb values and morality of the west looks in real.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:23 pm

    Rumor has it, Russians are still targetting

    Looks like they are having fun... the target is no where near any ships it could possibly take down so the three guys on this Ka-29 are having fun. The guy in the back has a HMG... probably a Kord, but seems to be shooting high. The two crew in the front, the guy on the right is using the four barrel 7.62x54mmR calibre gatling under the nose plate, and the guy on the left... the pilot is using the 23mm gun pods.

    They appear to be having turns about taking shots at the target... looks like fun.

    And no, unguided rockets would not be more effective or cheaper most likely.

    They can get a bit of practise in the middle of the ocean shooting that target up.

    Looks like good fun.

    Obviously they have to stick close to the drone because it is armed with an R -73 AAM, in this case in a SAM role.

    The helicopter will remain safe as long as it stays close to the target...

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    Post  RTN Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:44 pm

    GarryB wrote:The helicopter will remain safe as long as it stays close to the target...
    How does staying close to the target help? They are close not to remain safe but because they don't have long range rockets or missiles to engage the target.
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    Post  franco Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:16 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2280 Ukrainian casualties in the past 24 hours including Kursk;

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 280 servicemen, nine armored vehicles were destroyed, including a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle, an M113 armored personnel carrier made in the United States and six armored combat vehicles, as well as two artillery pieces, two cars and an electronic warfare station. Eight servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost 26,222 soldiers, 176 tanks, 93 infantry fighting vehicles, 104 armored personnel carriers, 995 armored combat vehicles, 683 vehicles, 226 artillery pieces, 38 multiple rocket launchers, including nine HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, nine anti-aircraft missile launchers complexes, five transport-charging vehicles, 56 electronic warfare stations, 11 counter-battery radars, three air defense radars, 22 units of engineering and other equipment, of which 13 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as three armored recovery vehicles.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12534314@egNews

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    Post  lancelot Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:28 pm

    They should just start operating naval Ka-52 helicopters to take down drones.
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    Post  kvs Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:30 pm

    NATzO never had a pro-Ukria agenda and never will. In fact, it most likely has an agenda to depopulate this region for new owners. Call my tinfoil what you will.

    NATzO deciders expected that throwing Ukr meat at Russians would cause Russia substantial harm. They clearly did not expect a 1:10 KIA rate and Russia engaging an
    efficiently managed attrition campaign. These deciders apparently did not have factual intel on Russia or were so full of their own shit that they assumed that cold war
    propaganda caricatures are a substitute for intel. The NATzO mass media pushes such caricatures ceaselessly so it looks like there is a drinking of own koolaid effect.
    They are still trying to push Ukr meat into the grinder and expecting Russia to not win or lose. We now have yapping about negotiations and freezing of the contact line.
    These yaps can yap with each other till Hell freezes over and they will not get what they want.

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    Post  kvs Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:32 pm

    lancelot wrote:They should just start operating naval Ka-52 helicopters to take down drones.

    That appears inefficient to me. Drones require loitering drones with sufficient armament to fulfill this task. There can be many more of them and they much more efficient
    in terms of resources.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:57 pm

    kvs wrote:

    That appears inefficient to me.   Drones require loitering drones with sufficient armament to fulfill this task.   There can be many more of them and they much more efficient
    in terms of resources.  

    With the requisite sensors, armament and endurance such loitering defense drones would cost as much as a Ka-52.

    There is also the question of why you would want to field something specifically to counter the least effective naval weapon since the us mark 14 torpedo.

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    Post  Isos Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:17 pm

    lancelot wrote:They should just start operating naval Ka-52 helicopters to take down drones.

    Orion drones would be better.

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    Post  Sujoy Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:40 pm

    Ugroza is probably not available so laser guided S-8 and S-13 is out of question. But the Ka-52 could have fired a Vikhr or Ataka laser guided ATGM at this boat to completely destroy it.

    Perhaps the pilots were specifically targetting the R-73 because they were not sure what would trigger its launch. Once the R-73 is destroyed the remaining boat could be engaged by an ATGM.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:12 pm

    Lucky 7 i mean lucky 50! vid inside G

    They flew off: a FAB-3000 aerial bomb was dropped on the temporary deployment point of the Ukrainian Armed Forces UAV detachment in Kurakhovo

    During the operation, about fifty operators and instructors were destroyed, as well as seven units of weapons and military equipment of the enemy. UAV operators of the "Yuzhnaya" group of forces reconnoitred the deployment location of the Ukrainian Armed Forces UAV unit, after which a precise strike was carried out.



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