Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62

Ukro TG started to whine of how the Ukrowehrmacht is leaving Kurakhovo "by own decision to improve tactical position".
In translation: they are retreating without order, which is running away.

Russian MoD reporting 2100 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including in Kursk;

During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 200 servicemen, an infantry fighting vehicle and four armored combat vehicles, as well as two mortars and one car were destroyed. Two servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12536078@egNews

It is said that Russian public is highly divided between voting for Trump or voting for Harris.

No problem as long as they keep voting for Putin.

thegopnik wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:It is said that Russian public is highly divided between voting for Trump or voting for Harris.

To be honest vote for Harris, Russia will be fucking around for 2 months and eventually reach a diplomatic solution with Trump and just keep Donetsk. With Harris they can push to Kiev and Odessa acquiring more territory for the russian lives involved in this war being payed in blood

I do worry that Russia could fall for Trump's smarm and act like a bitch for BRICs.

The reality is that Russia needs to go ALL the way. A now or never opportunity to fix this once and for all.
I get the feeling this Trump has been intimidated by the US Deep State (at least two assassination attempts), and of course the Banderascum.
Much like how Assange hasn't dared open his mouth since release.

As for Cackling Kamala, that piece of dogshit really needs flushing down the toilet.

Back from my holiday

The rainy season in the special operation zone, which has already begun, will lead to an inevitable pause in active combat operations , said Lieutenant General Roman Grekov, deputy commander of the "East" group of forces.

belarusian_silovik TG

Interesting video about Ukrainians fighting with Russia against NAziTO Ukraine. Big respect for these folks  

Chances of Russia making a deal is nil.

Putler bought time with the Minsk accords, time that he used to prepare Russia for the eventual showdown.

You`re not using his trick against him. Man`s too wise for that.

I say look at the track record... Russia didn't invade anyone and say this is now our land.

They didn't with Georgia, they didn't with the Crimea, they didn't with any of the Stans and they didn't with Belarus. Crimea and the four former Ukrainian regions voted in referendums to join Russia and Russia accepted them so I am pretty sure Russia is not going to continue moving to the west as far as they please. (Into Ukraine as far as needed, but not beyond into HATO territory).

They have said they want to liberate territory that has voted to join the Russian Federation and has been accepted by the Russian Federation as Russian territory and because of HATO arming Kiev with long range weapons they have mentioned that Kiev can't be trusted so they will need a buffer zone beyond their territory where there are no enemy forces that might launch attacks into Russian territory.

Currently that means 300km beyond Russia territory would need to be captured and demilitarised for the Russian territory to be safe unless solid and reliable agreements are made... which after Minsk one and two and Istanbul is unlikely to impossible.

This means Russian forces are going to be moving 50,100,150, 200, 250, 300km beyond RF territory into Ukraine territory to secure their border, now we can't discount the idea that those regions in the buffer zone might choose to become Russian Federation territory too... to be clear this will not be Putin or Russias decision... they might set up a referendum to allow the people to decide their own future. Of course there will be no options to join HATO or the EU which are both western weapons to attack Russia, but the people of the region might be sick of war and realise Kiev is so corrupt no matter what money the west sends to Kiev to fix everything it is not going to be spent on the cannon fodder, so they might see joining the Russian Federation as the better option moving forward... if they do then that does make things easier.

Of course the people on the border with Poland are unlikely to want to join the Russian Federation... even just to sabotage it from within, but let them vote for themselves.

Some of these regions are rabidly anti Russian and if the regions are not viable as states then letting them join the european countries they have been part of at various times might not be the worst thing from a Russian perspective.

Having Albanian states on their border is not really in their interests. This could be an interesting case where ethnically Hungarian or Polish citizens could swing the vote and join Poland or Hungary... not really as a reward... I would say these regions are less useful to these countries than East Germany was to West Germany.

The internal political problems will keep their governments busy with less time to throw stones at Russia. Russia could make it sound like a concession so the EU will feel better about losing, but really it will be Russia avoiding having to fix up areas that wouldn't appreciate it anyway.

These regions would need to be occupied so the referendums could take place and to ensure no moving population voting for independence in every region... but when the Ukrainian military collapses it shouldn't be too difficult or expensive.

When they find out how much Kiev has lied to them about their own losses and Russian losses and what Russia has done to rebuild the regions it has taken I think the voting will be rather favourable to Russia... but you never know... they might want to remain neutral and that is fine with Russia too.

I do worry that Russia could fall for Trump's smarm and act like a bitch for BRICs.

Yeah, because Putin is a bit green and not really as sophisticated as Trump is...  NOT.

Yeah I think there is a worry that if Trump wins Putin will do a deal with him, but Putin also has to remember that Russian troops and civilians have lost their lives during this conflict and for this to end with a quick deal that isn't majority in Russians favour would seriously make him look like a terrible President, the population and the armed forces would hate him for it. Putin can't accept anything less than having the Donbass, Zaporozhye, Kherson, Niko, Odessa, Kharkiv, Dnipro Poltava Sumy and maybe Cherniv to be handed over to them as a minimum and full international recognition of this, the rest of Ukraine to be de-militarized, zero NATO presence, Russian assets unfrozen, and am sure they would throw a few other bits as well such as Transnistria and Gagauzia to be integrated into Russia/Odessa, and no NATO nonsense in Moldova. Anything short of this would be a disaster for Putin. Let me hope no deal is made Russia steamrolls through Ukraine until it feels it has achieved what it wants.

ucmvulcan wrote:Putler?

Bazed Putin = Putler

Normal Putin = Putin

Cucked Putin = Putlet

thegopnik wrote:Well trump won, good luck zelensky, he called you a salesman and doesn't like the money being spent on you.

He can say anything he wats to Cocainsky. Let's wait and see how brave he will be to repeat that to his Black Rock curators. Maybe Dallas will visit him in Tampa, who knows ...

Trump will not change anything. The US will continue to finance Ukraine. Maybe even more. I remind that it was Trump who withdrew from the INF treaty. Ukraine is currently one of the biggest priorities of the US.

Poor Harris. She was used as a last minute resort-patch to cover up Robinette's shit.

Trump Declares Victory in Presidential Race, 11.06.2024.

TRUMP CALLED HIS PRESIDENTIAL RESULT "A POLITICAL VICTORY THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE IN US HISTORY".

https://ria.ru/20241106/tramp-1982136872.html

Arrow wrote:Trump will not change anything. The US will continue to finance Ukraine. Maybe even more. I remind  that it was Trump who withdrew from the INF treaty. Ukraine is currently one of the biggest priorities of the US.

You really have no idea.
Trump is Israel`s bitch numero uno before anything. He will sacrifice the Ukraine theater for a war with Iran.

There will be no fight with Iran.

Arrow wrote:There will be no fight with Iran.

You have an excellent history of guessing wrong, its a viable heuristic. Keep it up.

If I remember trump on Ukraine once said he would get the war ended quickly within a day or two. He stated cokehead would be told accept whatever trump wanted, and same for Putin and if not he would give Ukraine massive support that Russia couldn't handle. But Trump ain't as daft as he looks firstly he's a businessman and won't want to plough more billions into a country that pretty much means nothing to USA so he will try to force Europe to stomach the cost as Ukraine is on their doorstep not USA. Europe who has exhausted it's equipment and ammo to Ukraine already and is literally producing ammo for it to go out of the door straight on to the battlefield and USA ammo stocks much better. This conflict has fully fecked NATO supplies. So anything Trump says now will only be a bluff for Putin. Putin is intelligent and knows he has the upper hand in the conflict in every aspect and a good supply of arms and now NK troops as a bonus. The Economy is doing better than the west expected and sanctions did more damage to the west then it did to Russia and the World didn't turn against Russia either something the west wasn't happy about. And in fact it had the opposite effect. Then you have BRICS something the west thought would never go beyond what it originally started as now vast interest in countries joining, and then add the de-dollarisation factor into this. Trump will be more worried about that factor alone than Ukraine, Iran, NK, China, Taiwan, combined. And yes of course he will be made to make Israel a priority as all USA presidents usually do they are bootlickers to Israel. Cokehead will be looking for his exit strategy right now.

d_taddei2 wrote:If I remember trump on Ukraine once said he would get the war ended quickly within a day or two. He stated cokehead would be told accept whatever trump wanted, and same for Putin and if not he would give Ukraine massive support that Russia couldn't handle.

Trump is a narcist who understands only what to do in PR. A Kardashian of the politics.
He can say whatever he wants, as he does not understand that anyway.
Remind yourself his presidency, with his own bodies working against him.
And changing secretaries like glows, with a dumber following the dumb.
He has perfectly zero tools to add to this conflict to change a thing. They are out of a cannon fodder, so it does not matter if they will unrust a hundred M1 more or not.
It is talking only, vectored towards his redneck voters.