Russian special military operation in Ukraine #62

He has perfectly zero tools to add to this conflict to change wrote:

I don't know exactly where this belief of some on this forum comes from that Trump will change anything. US policy will not change and there will perhaps be an even greater escalation of actions by the US parties. I wonder if they will withdraw from the START 3 treaty, i.e. not extend it.

ALAMO wrote:
He can say anything he wats to Cocainsky. Let's wait and see how brave he will be to repeat that to his Black Rock curators. Maybe Dallas will visit him in Tampa, who knows ...

Exactly. It's not Trump's decision at all. We actually saw it first hand during his first term promising to "drain the swamp". Instead he loaded his administration with war hawks like Pompeo and Bolton.

Arrow wrote:

I don't know exactly where this belief of some on this forum comes from that Trump will change anything. US policy will not change and there will perhaps be an even greater escalation of actions by the US parties. I wonder if they will withdraw from the START 3 treaty, i.e. not extend it.

Again I have to say "exactly"! US foreign policy will not shift it's focus ONE IOTA

And he got out of the INF treaty and tried to develop new small tactical nuclear weapons, etc.There will probably be an even bigger arms race.

On the other hand, INF was restricting only Russia and the US - so from the perspective finishing it off will benefit both.

ALAMO wrote:On  the other hand, INF was restricting only Russia and the US - so from the perspective finishing it off will benefit both.

Both sides weren't respecting the INF in spirit and in letter.

How the hell are you supposed to verify if a full range Kalibr or Tomahawk launch came from naval vessels and not from land based launchers?

A pinky swear?

Nah, by not having a land based launchers.
Which was the case.

I wonder if they will leave START. For Russia it would be much less negative than for the US, Russia can quickly increase its strategic arsenal. The US has no chance of a nuclear arms race.

ALAMO wrote:Nah, by not having a land based launchers.
Which was the case.

The Iskander launchers carry significantly heavier missiles than the full power naval Kalibr. Even has the fittings for launching actual Kalibr missiles.

... and Muricans have a fully operational Mk 41 in "land" version capable of using Tomahawks, so ...
But nobody claimed that officially, and let's say that till now the sole confirmed case is an increased range Iskander.
Lege artis...

Russian MoD reporting 2080 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including Kursk;

During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to more than 250 soldiers, eight infantry fighting vehicles were destroyed, including two Bradley infantry fighting vehicles manufactured in the United States, and six armored combat vehicles, as well as two artillery pieces, two mortars and eight cars.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12536213@egNews

|Wow. So the Cackling Turd has lost.
But BEWARE.
This was engineered by America's powers that be, as it always is.


Its the "good cop bad cop" scam.
America CANNOT EVER be trusted.
The American people (supposedly) voted against Creepy Joe and his son milking hohol gas contracts... and of course much else.

Trump is unpredictable, very likely intimidated. He could be a wolf in sheep's clothing this time round.
Russia must be MORE cunning and even more untrusting than ever before.
And finish the job in it's entirety.
If Trumpster doesn't like it. He can get back to being peed over by whores.

The Kursk adventure has now resulted in over 30,000 Ukrainian casualties and 2700+ pieces of military equipment destroyed...

In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 30050 military personnel, 184 tanks, 115 infantry fighting vehicles, 107 armored personnel carriers, 1088 armored combat vehicles, 817 vehicles, 261 artillery pieces, 40 multiple rocket launchers, including 11 HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, 11 anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, seven transport-loading vehicles, 59 electronic warfare stations, 12 counter-battery radars, four air defense radars, 26 units of engineering and other equipment, of which 13 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as five armored recovery vehicles and a command and staff vehicle.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12536213@egNews

NATO secretary Rutti Frutti on Twitter:

I just congratulated @realDonaldTrump
on his election as President of the United States. His leadership will again be key to keeping our Alliance strong. I look forward to working with him again to advance peace through strength through #NATO.

well let's rephrase: War is peace. Now officially.


https://x.com/SecGenNATO/status/1854073276688904323

kvs wrote:Russia needs to avoid "occupation" at all costs.  Either parts of Ukraine join Russia (via referendums or not) or they are left as a separate entity.  Occupations
just breed resentment and feed into guerrilla warfare which is what NATzO wants to sap Russia.    Western Ukria (Galicia, etc.) needs to be left alone.   I do not
see how it can be turned into a protectorate since it is unlikely any pro-Russian regime can be installed.   Let NATzO have this "prize".  

What if all the Orcs leadership escape to Galicia , and set up their headquarters of " resistance , " there ? And Russia can easily go over and arrest them all ? Arrest all their Dogs and Cats ? Do this in less than a week , with no casualties and take them all to Siberia ? Wash , Rinse , repeat ? With Drone strikes next time ? Or exploding pagers ? Or salmon mousse ?

kvs wrote:Russia needs to avoid "occupation" at all costs.  Either parts of Ukraine join Russia (via referendums or not) or they are left as a separate entity.  Occupations
just breed resentment and feed into guerrilla warfare which is what NATzO wants to sap Russia.    Western Ukria (Galicia, etc.) needs to be left alone.   I do not
see how it can be turned into a protectorate since it is unlikely any pro-Russian regime can be installed.   Let NATzO have this "prize".  

If Russia could de-nazify East Germany they can do the same for Galicia.

I think the solution is pretty simple. Everything East of the Dnieper becomes oblasts of the Russian Federation. The river will provide a natural barrier. The west of the Dnieper should be broken into three separate areas. Novorossiya, Malorossiya, and Galicia. The name 'Ukraine' should be obliterated. Novorossiya eventually becomes integrated into the Russian Federation as oblasts but in the meantime there should be a transition government. Malorossiya and Galicia become republics.

In the transition period Malorossiya, Galicia, and Novorossiya get military governors in charge of the civilian government similar to Poland after WW2.

lancelot wrote:
If Russia could de-nazify East Germany they can do the same for Galicia.

Hardly.
It has been done, first of all, by placing 2.7 mln Germans in POW camps, and deportation of a further 1.7 mln civs.
Those people have been physically broken and devastated to the level when they just obey.
No chance for political mood to repeat that, because neither the hate pool nor atrocities between the sides are big enough.
Keep those galizien bastards decompose as a statehood by itself.

franco wrote:The Kursk adventure has now resulted in over 30,000 Ukrainian casualties and 2700+ pieces of military equipment destroyed...

In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 30050 military personnel, 184 tanks, 115 infantry fighting vehicles, 107 armored personnel carriers, 1088 armored combat vehicles, 817 vehicles, 261 artillery pieces, 40 multiple rocket launchers, including 11 HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, 11 anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, seven transport-loading vehicles, 59 electronic warfare stations, 12 counter-battery radars, four air defense radars, 26 units of engineering and other equipment, of which 13 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as five armored recovery vehicles and a command and staff vehicle.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12536213@egNews

These losses are bigger than the miliaries of most European NATO countries