macedonian wrote:etaepsilonk wrote:
Currently, there's no anti-Maidan opposition in Ukraine, apart some spontaneous demonstrations.
So, Russia can't support anyone, even if they want to.
That's exactly what I find strange.
With such a big number of ethnic Russians - there's NO anti-Maidan movement. None.
Hard to believe.
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There is and it's growing, all over vkontakte.ru, forums, etc...
I've been following this stuff; information goes viral all the time all around these resources - names and time of anti-Maidan meetings, phone-numbers of local battalion organisers, videos about Maidan and all sorts of incidents, etc...
https://vk.com/antirevol
https://vk.com/antimaydan
https://vk.com/anti_maydan
anti-Maidan twitter feed: https://twitter.com/anti_maydan
Sevastopol city political forum (hotbed of news & activism; this city has come under complete self-control and organisation)
http://forum.sevastopol.info
Regular wrote:What a disgrace! Where are real russians?! FFS Islamic nuts are pushing MAJORITY into submission.
It would not be tragedy if someone will throw pipebomb filled with nails into their crowd. It's not EuroMaidan anymore, it starting to look like pogrom.
They're not pushing anyone into submission. Now the Sevastopol administration has been taken over by armed Sevastopol Berkut fighters (by some sources) - let's see them push their way in now
Actually delegations from both Tatarstan and Turkey visited Crimean Tatar representatives today - their message was pretty much to just calm down and not let yourself get goaded into conflicts with your neighbours.
Kadyrov also said he'll come, I don't know if he did or didn't in the end but his message was pretty much the same, and in addition he offered Chechens in the role of peacekeepers for the region.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/news/361358
In fact Turkey actually earlier rather sharply declared the whole campaign of EU interference in the Ukraine as fanning the flames of a civil war, and as a provocation against Russia. Predictably it wasn't reported by the Western press much if at all
http://www.regnum.ru/news/1770825.html
There weren't as many Tatars in that confrontation as has been reported. They are part of the Medzhilis organisation which according to a leaked email courtesy of an anonymous hack - is in cohorts with the Ukrainian 'Pravyj Sektor' organisation.
http://ruskline.ru/opp/2014/02/26/v_krymu_gotovyat_bojnyu_vzlomana_perepiska_trizuba_im_stepana_bandery_s_krymskotatarskim_medzhlisom/
Here are some funny looking Tatars among the crowd
According to Russians on the other side, the Ukrainian nationalists were directing and organising the Tatar crowd
Needless to say, Tatar opinions are divided. That organisation is a highly influential one, perhaps the most influential, that's capable of mobilising large numbers; but also an extreme one that counts Islamists among its main members (adherents of the banned Hizb-ut-Tahrir organisation).
All the discussion among Crimean Russians that I've seen have all been directed towards the need for talks with the Crimean Tatars, and attempting to get them on their side - no-one wants a war.
After the latest events in Simferopol though, the mood is more like 'to hell with what they think anyway'
However many other Tatars are against the Euromaidan movement and are siding with the local Russians
http://www.islamnews.ru/news-144534.html
The historic Crimean Tatar diaspora in Turkey meanwhile, is pressing Turkey to step in in the role of a peacekeeper
http://15minut.org/article/turciju-prizvali-obespechit-bezopasnost-krymskih-tatar-video-2014-02-27-16-45-53
As for Tatars in Russia; they are a separate people altogether and most of them just don't give a toss. Maybe among some nationalist or separatist groups there will be some support for anti-Russian Crimean Tatars; but these are marginal elements anyway
I'll be making more posts on the fast developing situation in the Ukraine later, so stay tuned folks!
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