Yemeni Conflict: News

i am confused.. How Sudanese troops entered Yemen without any international reaction?? I know that Gulf states intervention is also to be condemned but i find it strange for a president like Bashir who indicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) to send troops abroad

i also know that till now Sudan had very strong relations with Iran, which now will be totally harmed

George1 wrote:i am confused.. How Sudanese troops entered Yemen without any international reaction?? I know that Gulf states intervention is also to be condemned but i find it strange for a president like Bashir who indicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) to send troops abroad

i also know that till now Sudan had very strong relations with Iran, which now will be totally harmed

Simply because 'international community' represents the west and their friends. Houthis (friendly to Iran hostile to US) are their enemy so they're silent about this, barely any reporting about this in the media and no outrage. David Cameron has been questioned about this but he responded 'Saudi gives us intel that keeps us safe'. Which is most likely BS, it's just that defence deals generate money which he likes.

iraqidabab wrote:Important part I understood, "All aircraft there.". Couldn't understand it fully, not my dialect.

Thanks

Some important points for last years insurgencies in Yemen and the ongoing war:

1. Houthi (Shiites) insurgency has been from 2004 to now, 10+ years until they toppled the government of Hadi (Sunni)
2. South Yemen (where Sunnis are majority) insurgency has been from 2009, an armed struggle for secession of former South Yemen
3. Both rebbelions were against the governments of both presidents Saleh (Shiite) and Hadi (Sunni)
4. Both Houthis and Southern Movement were in opposition in Yemeni Revolution of 2011 against Saleh

After Houthis took over control in Sanaa
1. Southern Movement has aligned itself with the Hadi government against the Houthi government
2. Saleh has made an alliance Shia Houthi forces. Tribesmen and government forces loyal to Saleh have joined the Houthis.

Also important to know that:

During Yemen's 1994 civil war, the Wahhabis, an Islamic group adhering to a strict version of Sunni Islam found in neighboring Saudi Arabia, helped the government in its fight against the secessionist south. Zaidis complain the government has subsequently allowed the wahhabis too strong a voice in Yemen. Saudi Arabia, for its part, worries that strife instigated by the Zaidi sect so close to Yemen's border with Saudi Arabia could stir up groups in Saudi itself wrote:

The 2 former insurgencies seem to have transformed to a shia-sunni internal war as i see.

So 2 big questions arise
1. Houthis represent all Shiite population of North Yemen? (i know that Zaydis are sure majority)
2. If it go like this, are we going to have a partition of the country to 2 distinguished Shiite and Sunni republics of Yemen?

Saudi Field hospital in Yemen.

Some news:
1. Houthis claim they fired on a Saudi warship off Yemeni coast.
2. ISIS/AQ captured Aden.

We knew that Aden was going to fall but this are very concerning news indeed.

AQAP/IS has played this war very well - they stau quiet most of the time and do minor but devastating attacks against both sides - like the attack on Emirati officers.

There are also news from Somalia taht Al Shabab split into two factions, one pro-IS and another one pro-AQ... well, we have no thread about Somalia and Somalia is close to Yemen so I'm writing here.

Houthi forces seized a UAV in Marib after it most likely crashed. Its probably "Schibel" S-100 Camcopter operated by UAE.

Forces Loyal to Yemeni Ex-President Sink Saudi Coalition’s Ship in Red Sea

Forces loyal to former President Ali Abdullah Saleh have sunk a ship that belongs to the Saudi-led coalition.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Some fractions of the Yemeni army loyal to former President Ali Abdullah Saleh have attacked and sunk one of the ships of the Saudi-led coalition near a port city of Mocha located on the Red Sea coast, a military source told Sputnik Sunday.

“Parts of the Yemeni Army launched a missile in the direction of one of the warships, from which the port of Mocha was shelled. The target was precisely struck and sunk,” the source said.

Yemen has been engulfed in a military conflict between the government and Shiite Houthi rebels, the country’s main opposition faction.

Since March, a Saudi-led coalition began carrying out airstrikes against Houthi positions at Yemeni President Abd Rabbuh Mansour Hadi's request.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151025/1029092805/yemen-ship-saudis-rebels.html#ixzz3pbX64Crv

George1 wrote:Forces Loyal to Yemeni Ex-President Sink Saudi Coalition’s Ship in Red Sea

Forces loyal to former President Ali Abdullah Saleh have sunk a ship that belongs to the Saudi-led coalition.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Some fractions of the Yemeni army loyal to former President Ali Abdullah Saleh have attacked and sunk one of the ships of the Saudi-led coalition near a port city of Mocha located on the Red Sea coast, a military source told Sputnik Sunday.

“Parts of the Yemeni Army launched a missile in the direction of one of the warships, from which the port of Mocha was shelled. The target was precisely struck and sunk,” the source said.

Yemen has been engulfed in a military conflict between the government and Shiite Houthi rebels, the country’s main opposition faction.

Since March, a Saudi-led coalition began carrying out airstrikes against Houthi positions at Yemeni President Abd Rabbuh Mansour Hadi's request.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151025/1029092805/yemen-ship-saudis-rebels.html#ixzz3pbX64Crv

Wow, not bad, anybody got any idea what type of ship it was and the missile that sunk it??

Does anyone have any pics/video (if by chance any have come out in the open) regarding this missile attack and an earlier attack which also sunk/destroyed a Saudi coalition ship??

If words of PressTV are to be believed, there had been 2 sunken ships before the one mentioned by George... No photos/videos from the sinking were shown and Gulf authoritiees neither confirmed nor denied that they lost ships... looks like a non-event to me.

A video of the possible ship attack'. I think they hit the little ship behind the big one.

But the launching of the missile which seems to be anti-ship missile is at night, don't know what to make of it. Strange content.


They sank a few patrol boats people say. They don't have the missiles to sink big ships.

UAV that purportedly crashed in Taiz, Yemen on 24. october.



Is actually not an UAV but wing structure from Al-Tariq guided bomb kit "built" by UAE (significant assistance from South African Republic) shares high resemblance with Denel Dynamics Umbani.

Metis captured by Saudis on border with Yemen.

iraqidabab wrote:A video of the possible ship attack'. I think they hit the little ship behind the big one.

But the launching of the missile which seems to be anti-ship missile is at night, don't know what to make of it. Strange content.


They sank a few patrol boats people say. They don't have the missiles to sink big ships.

They might posses C-801 AS missiles according to some reports.

The bigger ship in the video is a Baynunah class corvette - UAE Navy, but like you said they target smaller patrol boats...like the Saudi one a couple of weeks ago

800 Colombian Soldiers to Join Saudi-Led Forces in Yemen


KSA funding foreign nation armies for themselves now ? Can't beat a bunch of enthusiastic rebels?

de problem with KSA dogs is there are so rich they can go on with there wars for ever, while spreading wahabism all around the world, now hiring mercenary armys even...

by the way, was the ship news only a hoax? a day has passed and still nothing... a ship with hundreds of troops would be a BIG f*** deal after all

Scratch one more M-60 Patton and M-2 Bradley.

"Saudi Arabia-led coalition forces appear to have used a Brazilian variant of internationally banned cluster munitions on a residential neighbourhood in Ahma in Sa’da, northern Yemen, this week, wounding at least four people and leaving dangerous unexploded submunitions strewn around the surrounding farmland, Amnesty International said today. The organization interviewed a number of local residents including two victims, the medical personnel treating them, an eyewitness and a local activist who visited the site shortly after the attack. Unexploded “duds” pictured at the attack site bear similarities to Brazilian-manufactured cluster bombs Saudi Arabia is known to have used in the past. “Because cluster munitions are inherently indiscriminate weapons, their use is prohibited by customary international humanitarian law. In fact, nearly 100 states have totally banned their production, stockpiling, transfer and use, in recognition of the unique and lasting harm they cause,” said Philip Luther, Middle East and North Africa Programme Director at Amnesty International.

The cluster munition attack was carried out at around noon on 27 October 2015 in a residential area of Ahma, approximately 10km north-west of al-Talh in Sahar directorate, near Sa’da city. Ahma is approximately 40km south of the border with Saudi Arabia. A local activist who visited the site several hours after the attack found three unexploded submunitions around 20m apart, one in the field of a local farm, another near a greenhouse and the third next to a mosque. The nearest military objective known to Amnesty International is a market in al-Talh, approximately 10km to the south-east, which is known to sell weapons and has been targeted by airstrikes on at least five different occasions since the start of the Saudi Arabia-led bombardment campaign in March. Eyewitnesses described how, despite the complete absence of military aircraft, a series of rockets screamed across the sky and exploded in mid-air, followed by dozens of explosions on the ground. These accounts and the remnants found on the ground are consistent with the use of cluster munitions fired via surface-to-surface rockets, using a multiple launch rocket system (MLRS). Salah al-Zar’a, 35, a local farmer, was on the main road 50m away when the strike occurred: “I was on my motorcycle going in the direction of Dhahyan with another friend, when I saw… four rockets coming down… Each went in a different direction with two minutes between each rocket. There were four explosions in the sky first and then 50 explosions when they hit the ground. They landed on a group of 30 houses and shops.”



According to medical personnel treating the patients, one of the injured, 25-year-old Abdelaziz Abd Rabbu is in a critical condition with shrapnel injuries to the abdomen and chest.  Abdelbari Hussein, 22, another civilian injured in the attack, told Amnesty International: “I was sitting in my shop when the attack happened. I did not hear a plane, all I heard was the explosions.” He sustained shrapnel injuries to the abdomen. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the Cluster Munition Coalition have documented the Saudi Arabia-led coalition’s use of four types of cluster munition in the Yemen conflict to date, including three US-manufactured variants.

But this marks the first suspected use of Brazilian-made cluster munitions in the conflict. Several Brazilian companies produce cluster munitions. While Amnesty International was unable to independently verify with absolute certainty the make and model of the submunitions dropped on Ahma, they bear similarities to one manufactured by a Brazilian company called Avibrás Indústria Aeroespacial SA. The ASTROS II is a truck-loaded, multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) manufactured by Avibrás. ASTROS II can fire multiple rockets in rapid succession and three of its rockets can be fitted with up to 65 submunitions, with a range of up to 80km, depending on the rocket type. The company’s website describes it as “capable of launching long-range rockets, designed as a strategic weapon system with great deterrent power.” According to Landmine and Cluster Munition Monitor, Avibrás has sold this type of cluster munition to Saudi Arabia in the past, and Human Rights Watch documented their use by Saudi Arabian forces in Khafji in 1991, “leaving behind significant numbers of unexploded submunitions.”

Source and full article: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/10/yemen-brazilian-cluster-munitions-suspected-in-saudi-arabia-led-coalition-attack/

"ASTROS II has two types of rockets that deliver 150-kilogram warheads each containing 70 submunitions: the SS-60 and SS-80 with a range of up to 60 km and 80 km, respectively. ASTROS rockets can also be equipped with a unitary high explosive warhead."



Manufacturing details of rockets produced in 1985 found in 2003 abandoned in Baqubah, Iraq. The symbol and name of the Brazilian company Avribras can clearly be seen. © 2003 Peter Bouckaert/Human Rights Watch

Source: https://landmineandclustermunitionblog.wordpress.com/2014/09/18/subsidizing-brazils-production-of-cluster-munitions/

max steel wrote:800 Colombian Soldiers to Join Saudi-Led Forces in Yemen


KSA funding foreign nation armies for themselves now ? Can't beat a bunch of enthusiastic rebels?

It's not recent. I remember an old thread on MP.net years ago about it, that KSA was poaching Colombians NCOs at the end of their contracts.

Good training, good skin complexion to pass for arabs, lots of them with combat experience (although I don't know how jungle fighting against guerrillas translate to desert mechanized warfare, but there is no arguing they're good soldier material), far less expensive that NATO people so you can hire them in numbers, etc...

If I were mean I'd say that's always has been a Muslim tactic... to hire/enslave Christians infantry because they themselves have always sucked at it.

"Photo believed to be a Saudi M1 Abrams destroyed by Yemeni Army & Popular Committees near Al-Khubah, Jizan"

To me it looks rather like M60A3.

Militarov wrote:To me it looks rather like M60A3.

Probably right

Bidoul wrote:If I were mean I'd say that's always has been a Muslim tactic... to hire/enslave Christians infantry because they themselves have always sucked at it.

Good point....Janissaries for example