The Situation in the Ukraine. #14

GarryB wrote:

I have already spent too much time to follow this war rooting for Novorossiya. If they don't want to fight they deserve to be defeated. The ukrops are more deserving winners since they actually want to defeat the enemy.

I understand the frustration of people like Monarchist who have followed the war a lot more emotionally than I have.

Put the situation in context... the victim of a rape could fight like a wildcat... but that could lead to them being killed and then raped. A victim of rape could resist so that a non rapist would realise and stop... even if they end up getting raped they might not get killed.

Novorossiya is hardly in a position of strength and is certainly not able to dictate terms or control the situation to any great degree.


@kvs... are you serious thinking that a UNSC resolution would mean anything at all? Do you think Russia would even get anything through without a US or UK or French veto?

Neutrality wrote:So as I understand, Kiev simply reinstalled their artillery on the frontline and are now shelling the NAF. Where the fuck is the outcry from OSCE? Every time these assholes start shelling the areas the OSCE reports that "both sides violate the ceasefire". These people are fucking nuts and serve no purpose other than being a mostly Western political tool. Which is why I hope that a future offensive of the NAF will completely encircle and annihilate these assholes. No more ceasefire agreements after that. DPR and LPR should make an ultimatum: complete withdrawal of the VSU or be destroyed. No more nice guys. Hell, ignore Moscow if they tell to stop their push. The Ukrainian regime only understands violence. Then violence should be exactly what they deserve.

Erk wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote: Graham W Phillips @GrahamWP_UK  ·  2h 2 hours ago

На дороге в Горловку. / On the road to Gorlovka.

He is a brave man, if the UAF recognize him he is toast.

You know how much they hate foreign press.

Flagship Victory wrote:NAF shelling Maidan hill near Shirokino. Filmed from Maidan's perspective.

https://youtu.be/EOtsbiVlEbk

The separatists fired from artillery battalion positions "Donbass" in Shyrokynomu
Throughout the war in Donbas, first see that gap mortar shell shot so close. Professionally and most atmospheric of Shyrokynoho: A place that artillery shelled separatists called "Beacon." This dominant height at Shyrokynomu. They say the military - the most convenient point for the monitoring and control of separatist positions. The soldiers explained that the storm height is extremely difficult, so it methodically poured artillery fire.
On this day, the military said working sizes of 120 and 150 millimeters. During the attack one soldier "Donbass" were injured, the other suffered from shrapnel wounds - died.

SS-runes on ovskie helmet.

And on the helmet logo on the 4th minute of the SS. wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:Sorry if anyone has posted this link before...

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150525/1022542600.html

Ukraine’s Prime Minister wants US firms to take an active part in purchasing the country’s state assets as part of privatization campaign.

I wonder at what time Asswenuts will sell all the Ukrainian country to the White House and turn Ukraine into an U.S. state...

Neutrality wrote:So as I understand, Kiev simply reinstalled their artillery on the frontline and are now shelling the NAF. Where the fuck is the outcry from OSCE? Every time these assholes start shelling the areas the OSCE reports that "both sides violate the ceasefire". These people are fucking nuts and serve no purpose other than being a mostly Western political tool. Which is why I hope that a future offensive of the NAF will completely encircle and annihilate these assholes. No more ceasefire agreements after that. DPR and LPR should make an ultimatum: complete withdrawal of the VSU or be destroyed. No more nice guys. Hell, ignore Moscow if they tell to stop their push. The Ukrainian regime only understands violence. Then violence should be exactly what they deserve.

НовороссияТВ wrote:Camouflage. DSHRG "Rusich". Day 1

Yahoo wrote:Obama says Russia adopting 'increasingly aggressive posture'
AFP 14 hours ago

Washington (AFP) - US President Barack Obama accused Russia of toughening its battlefield stance Tuesday, as he met with the NATO secretary general to discuss the rolling crisis in Ukraine.

"We had a chance to discuss the situation in Ukraine and the increasingly aggressive posture that Russia has taken," Obama said, after Oval Office talks with Jens Stoltenberg.

Both men stressed the need for parties to respect a largely-ignored February ceasefire agreement, which Stoltenberg said could still be a "path to peace."

The deal, between European powers, Russia and Ukraine was aimed at ending a 13-month war that has claimed nearly 6,300 lives and left well over a million people homeless.

In recent days there has been particularly heavy fighting between Ukrainian forces and pro-Russian separatists near the strategic port city of Mariupol.

At the same time there has been an uptick in tensions as Russia aircraft and submarines have made provocative forays into European airspace and waters.

Obama said this was a "challenging and important time for NATO." Continue reading.

Erich Hartmann wrote:"In general, steep" Marines on the march to the zone ATO.Kolonna Hummers in Kharkov

# The GTC Minsk Soglasheniya.Russkie terrorists beating on Shirokino with heavy artillery / Ukraine News

Business Insider wrote:Putin is going to extreme lengths to hide Russian soldiers who are dying while fighting in Ukraine
NATASHA BERTRAND MAY 26, 2015, 11:08 AM1

Russia is using crematoriums on wheels to burn the bodies of its soldiers who die fighting alongside pro-Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine, Bloomberg's Josh Rogin reports.

“The Russians are trying to hide their casualties by taking mobile crematoriums with them,” House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mac Thornberry told Rogin. “They are trying to hide not only from the world but from the Russian people their involvement.”

The mobile crematoriums — which burn about eight to 10 bodies a day, according to Ukraine security service chief Valentyn Nalyvaichenko — reveal how far Russia is willing to go to hide its military presence in the war.

"Every day, the hotline of the Security Service of Ukraine records a great of number of calls from dozens of Russian citizens who are looking for their relatives or Russian soldiers who have been sent to the territory of Ukraine," Nalyvaichenko said in January.

The Kremlin has denied involvement in Ukraine ever since Russian special forces occupied the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea in February 2014.

"Russian leaders are less and less able to conceal the fact that Russian soldiers are fighting — and dying — in large numbers in eastern Ukraine," NATO Deputy Secretary General Alexander Vershbow told a conference in Latvia in March. Continue reading.

Daily Mail wrote:Heavy armour rolls in: Now convoy of Russian tanks arrive by rail at border with Ukraine days after military trucks and rocket launchers were spotted nearby
By FLORA DRURY FOR MAILONLINE PUBLISHED: 23:38 GMT, 26 May 2015 | UPDATED: 06:57 GMT, 27 May 2015

Nine tanks arrived in southern Russian town of Matveev Kurgan on Monday

Mobile phone snaps show them arriving on the back of a freight train

Town is just 17 miles from Ukrainian border, where battles continue

A freight train pictured carrying a convoy tanks towards the Ukrainian border looks to escalate tensions between the two sides even further.

The nine tanks arrived in the southern town of Matveev Kurgan on Monday, before being driven along the streets on Tuesday.

The picture, taken on a mobile phone, comes just days after a huge convoy, including rocket launchers, military trucks without licence plates and armoured personnel carriers, was photographed driving along a road near the town. Continue reading.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

Neutrality wrote:So as I understand, Kiev simply reinstalled their artillery on the frontline and are now shelling the NAF. Where the fuck is the outcry from OSCE? Every time these assholes start shelling the areas the OSCE reports that "both sides violate the ceasefire". These people are fucking nuts and serve no purpose other than being a mostly Western political tool. Which is why I hope that a future offensive of the NAF will completely encircle and annihilate these assholes. No more ceasefire agreements after that. DPR and LPR should make an ultimatum: complete withdrawal of the VSU or be destroyed. No more nice guys. Hell, ignore Moscow if they tell to stop their push. The Ukrainian regime only understands violence. Then violence should be exactly what they deserve.

And where the fuck is the outcry from the Kremlin?

Moscow has said absolutely nothing about the violations of the Minsk agreement by Kiev. Not only is Moscow saying nothing about it but it also prevents the NAF from reinstallating their own artillery on the frontline.

The OSCE is naturally biased (in fact they should be kicked out of Donbass) but what really matters is the atititude and nonaction of Moscow.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

Neutrality wrote:So as I understand, Kiev simply reinstalled their artillery on the frontline and are now shelling the NAF. Where the fuck is the outcry from OSCE? Every time these assholes start shelling the areas the OSCE reports that "both sides violate the ceasefire". These people are fucking nuts and serve no purpose other than being a mostly Western political tool. Which is why I hope that a future offensive of the NAF will completely encircle and annihilate these assholes. No more ceasefire agreements after that. DPR and LPR should make an ultimatum: complete withdrawal of the VSU or be destroyed. No more nice guys. Hell, ignore Moscow if they tell to stop their push. The Ukrainian regime only understands violence. Then violence should be exactly what they deserve.

And where the fuck is the outcry from the Kremlin?

Moscow has said absolutely nothing about the violations of the Minsk agreement by Kiev. Not only is Moscow saying nothing about it but it also prevents the NAF from reinstallating their own artillery on the frontline.

The OSCE is naturally biased (in fact they should be kicked out of Donbass) but what really matters is the atititude and nonaction of Moscow.

Erk wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:

Neutrality wrote:So as I understand, Kiev simply reinstalled their artillery on the frontline and are now shelling the NAF. Where the fuck is the outcry from OSCE? Every time these assholes start shelling the areas the OSCE reports that "both sides violate the ceasefire". These people are fucking nuts and serve no purpose other than being a mostly Western political tool. Which is why I hope that a future offensive of the NAF will completely encircle and annihilate these assholes. No more ceasefire agreements after that. DPR and LPR should make an ultimatum: complete withdrawal of the VSU or be destroyed. No more nice guys. Hell, ignore Moscow if they tell to stop their push. The Ukrainian regime only understands violence. Then violence should be exactly what they deserve.

And where the fuck is the outcry from the Kremlin?

Moscow has said absolutely nothing about the violations of the Minsk agreement by Kiev. Not only is Moscow saying nothing about it but it also prevents the NAF from reinstallating their own artillery on the frontline.

The OSCE is naturally biased (in fact they should be kicked out of Donbass) but what really matters is the atititude and nonaction of Moscow.

Moscow has protested the violation of the ceasefire many times, just go back though RT for the past few weeks. Maybe even on sputnik.

Graham Phillips wrote:18+ Gorlovka - 26th May, Result of Ukrainian Shelling

whir wrote:

Graham Phillips wrote:18+ Gorlovka - 26th May, Result of Ukrainian Shelling

Khepesh wrote:Artillery brigade "Kalmius" training

And when Odessa is liberated

Karl Haushofer wrote:

Khepesh wrote:Artillery brigade "Kalmius" training

And when Odessa is liberated

You say "when" so you must actually believe that this will happen. Hope you are right not currently it seems pretty far-fetched.

Karl Haushofer wrote:You say "when" so you must actually believe that this will happen. Hope you are right not currently it seems pretty far-fetched.

whir wrote:

Graham Phillips wrote:18+ Gorlovka - 26th May, Result of Ukrainian Shelling

TASS via Google Translate wrote:МЧС РФ подготовило к отправке в Донбасс 28-ю автоколонну
Russian Emergency Situations Ministry prepared to be sent to the Donbass 28th convoy
Society May 27, 13:30 UTC + 3

The convoy - more than 100 cars, which will take more than 1,000 tons of aid

MOSCOW, May 27. / TASS /. Russian Emergency Situations Ministry prepared to be sent to the Donbass 28th convoy with humanitarian aid, it is planned that she's right on 28 May. This TASS reported the press service of the department. "On the territory of the Don rescue center EMERCOM of Russia completed the formation of a regular truck convoys with humanitarian cargo for the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. It consists of more than 100 cars, which will take more than 1,000 tons of aid," - said the representative of Ministry of Emergency Situations.

Among the goods - food, including pasta, vegetable oil, semolina, wheat, rice, barley and buckwheat, as well as construction materials for restoration work and general purpose medicines for medical institutions. "At present, all the cars are loaded, they passed service and technically sound. The column is ready to be shipped. It is planned that she will come out of the Don rescue center EMERCOM of Russia in the morning on May 28 will be divided into two roughly equal parts and will go to Donetsk and Lugansk regions, having all necessary procedures at border crossings, "- reported in the department. Continue reading.