The Situation in the Ukraine. #15

Flagship Victory wrote:At least Ukraine today would have been democratic and free.

PapaDragon wrote:EU Volunteers in Donbass Fighting for a Noble Cause – German Media

While there are no Russian troops fighting in eastern Ukraine, one can still find many volunteers from Europe fighting alongside the pro-independence militia in Donbass, a German newspaper wrote on Thursday.

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150612/1023272080.html

Branded as "mercenaries" in the West, these people are getting a meager 340 euros a month for putting their life on the line, but their numbers are still growing every day.

"What we are doing here is our way of fighting the EU and NATO," a Slovak volunteer told DWN. Speaking on condition of anonymity, he said the volunteers were using whatever weapons they managed to obtain during combat.

Czech and Slovak volunteers fighting in Donbass on the side of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic have announced the formation of a joint Czech-Slovak fighting unit, a statement on the Slovak Facebook page of the 'International Brigade 15' has announced.

Sometimes they have to make use of antiquated Nagant six-shooters and WW2-era Mosin rifles.

"There is not a single Russian trooper in our unit. Political and moral support is all we are getting from Russia. And humanitarian assistance too, which is now even more important than arms."

Meanwhile, Slovakia’s Foreign Ministry blamed what it called "adventurers, acting on their own" for "destabilizing the situation in eastern Ukraine, undermining diplomatic efforts [to end the war] and damaging the foreign policy interests of Slovakia."

ExBeobachter1987 wrote:

Flagship Victory wrote:At least Ukraine today would have been democratic and free.

How? It was impossible to purge the anti-Russian forces at that point.
Any measure would have only delayed the rise of an anti-Russian government in Ukraine.

sepheronx wrote:What a lot of people here and even in the west seem to fail to realise is that even if the EU has helped kept a lot of these post soviet countries alive by money magic through banking regulations, a huge portion of their sales of products are to Russia.  Be it agricultural, or production of industrial household goods like fridges, microwaves, etc.  Ukraine was even in a worst position.  So all Russia has to do is actually stop trade with these countries, and watch as their economies start to collapse.  Already Poland is starting to get cold feet, and Latvia.  German businesses are getting hit hard, and so are Italian and French.  All because of 1 country that they were relying on trade back with.

I say, just hurt them that way.  Let them try to take care of Ukraine.  Yes, it would become inevitable that NATO will place bases in Ukraine and weapons.  All Russia has to do is re-enforce their western bases, place far more automated systems and have their rocket systems on full alert to fight them via flooding them with missiles then troops.  Outside of that, let them live in their fantasy lands.

whir wrote:

International Business Times wrote:Children With Weapons Seen At Pro-Russian Roadblock Near Shyrokyne, Eastern Ukraine
By Christopher Harress on June 12 2015 7:16 AM EDT

Children have been seen holding weapons at a pro-Russian rebel roadblock near the embattled village of Shyrokyne, according to independent monitors observing the war in eastern Ukraine.

The revelation, which was announced by Michael Biocurkiw, a spokesperson for the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), during a press conference in Kiev late on Thursday evening, is symbolic of a conflict where rules, ceasefires and conventions have been broken on a daily basis, and where recent fighting between Ukrainian troops and pro-Russian rebels has reached levels not seen since the Minsk II peace deal was signed in February this year.

"During the most recent visit [to Shyrokyne], our monitors did spot what appeared to be underage children at that checkpoint,” said Biocurkiw. “This is the second time in recent times that we've seen children, and some of them [were] with arms.

"We're very concerned about observing this type of development – any time when children are involved in a conflict is unacceptable," he added.

Shyrokyne, which is only 10 miles from the strategic port town of Mariupol on Ukraine’s southern coast, has been the scene of deadly fighting for months. On Thursday morning, one soldier was killed and two injured in battles near the village. Continue reading.

New Haven Register wrote:Another view: West must consider Russia, after Putin
By Sergei Guriev POSTED: 06/12/15, 12:06 PM EDT | UPDATED: 19 MINS AGO

Last year, thanks to its aggression in Ukraine, Russia changed in many important ways. But one crucial transformation has gone largely unnoticed: Long-term thinking has completely disappeared, and the Russian regime no longer talks about the future.

Russian leaders’ discourse centers on the standoff with Ukraine and the West (and their “puppets” within Russia) and references to the heroic past (mostly to World War II). The regime is now fully focused on its own survival.

This has not always been the case. In 2000, Vladimir Putin went to the Kremlin with a 10-year “Gref program” that included a vision of Russia as an open and modern country. His first presidential term implemented parts of this program. Long-term development strategies — mostly based on this vision — were discussed and updated until 2012.

Even when Putin returned as president that year, he put together a set of programmatic op-eds in Russian newspapers outlining long-term plans on the economy, social policy, governance, federalism and foreign policy.

He converted these into a number of presidential decrees that he signed on his first day in office. These decrees provided transparent targets that he promised to achieve by 2018.

By now it is clear — and even publicly acknowledged by Putin himself — that these decrees will not be carried out. What alternative future does Russia’s president propose to his citizens? There is no answer. No long-term policy planning for Russia’s future is occurring. Previously, Russia took pride in moving from one-year to three-year budgets.

This is no more: The Kremlin has no credible financial plan beyond 2016 except for hoping for oil prices to recover. Its foreign policy doctrine centers also on regime survival.

Around the world, Russia fiercely defends the sovereign right of non-democratic governments to stay in power indefinitely. Continue reading.

2SPOOKY4U wrote:
Whir, do you enjoy posting garbage?

At least try to look at better sources, or simply sticking to YouTube videos?

I mean seriously, "Around the World, Russia fiercely defends the sovereign right of non-democratic governments to stay in power indefinitely."

Are you trying to beat us over the heads with propaganda?

whir wrote:

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“The way things are now, I am against signing the TTIP treaty,” stressed Fillon, and he declared himself “shocked” that the American judiciary “thinks it is free to intervene anywhere in the world.”

“The American judiciary encroaches constantly on the justice system of the European countries,” he said, addressing the part of the TTIP which raises the greatest controversy, the private tribunals that treaty opponents see as a kick in the face to the sovereignty of the state, and that entail evaluating the risk of having to pay off an indemnity before making any decision that could affect the profits of some American corporation.

The private tribunals are a mechanism of arbitration that permit a company to get damages from a state for its adoption of this or that socio-economic measure.

The former Prime Minister likewise recalled certain instances of abuse by American justice, notably the penalty against BNP Paribas [Banque Nationale de Paris] “for matters that didn’t concern the US at all.”

"It’s the fact the US thinks every transaction in dollars opens a pathway for litigation to American justice — that’s the problem," he stressed, noting that instances of violation of American embargoes against Sudan, Cuba, and Iran, that led to penalties, didn’t even happen on American soil.

“Today, Europe is not independent,” he declared. "The US pressured Germany to find a compromise with Greece; the German intelligence service are spying on France, not on their own account, but for the US. The US gets us on board for a crusade against Russia, a crusade contrary to the interests of Europe; the US conduct a policy in the Middle East that is extraordinarily dangerous for us," he said, before adding that he wanted to open the debate on the question “How to bring about Europe' Independence?”

“We have to tell the Americans that they’re going too far.” We can’t deal so long as there isn’t a clarification of the place of the US in Europe,”

Rodinazombie wrote:Khepesh, what happened in moscow and rostov last night?

TASS wrote:Ukraine unable to use central bank’s reserves to repay creditors - IMF
World June 13, 0:58 UTC+3

To receive the IMF’s second tranche, Ukraine’s government should make a decision on restructuring the external state debt, which is $18blm worth, till middle June

WASHINGTON, June 12. /TASS/. Kiev cannot use the reserves of Ukraine’s national Bank for repaying debts, Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Christine Lagarde said on Friday.

"The NBU’s international reserves cannot be used for sovereign debt service without the government incurring new debt, which would be inconsistent with the objectives of the debt operation," the IMF says in a statement.

Ukraine’s state debt hit $47.6 billion, totalling 100% of the GDP, said Yuri Boiko, the head of the Opposition Bloc at the Verkhovna Rada parliament.

To receive the IMF’s second tranche, Ukraine’s government should make a decision on restructuring the external state debt, which is $18blm worth, till middle June but Kiev experiences certain difficulties in talks with creditors. Continue reading.

Radio Svoboda wrote:Consulate of Russia in Kharkiv threw eggs and brilliant green

TASS wrote:Ukraine’s consular sectioned attacked in Russia’s Rostov-on-Don
Russia June 13, 9:09 UTC+3

The attackers threw eggs and tomatoes into the building. The equipment was damaged, Ukraine’s Consular General Vitaliy Moskalenko told

ROSTOV-ON-DON, June 13. /TASS/. Unidentified persons broke windows of the Ukrainian consular section in Rostov-on-Don early hours on Saturday, Ukraine’s Consular General Vitaliy Moskalenko told TASS.

"All windows on the first floor are broken with bats," he said. "17 windows were broken with stones. The attackers threw eggs and tomatoes into the building. The equipment was damaged. The bronze plate from the front side was thrown down."

"We have information between 50 and 100 people were involved," he continued. "They marched along the central street, turned into this street [where the consular section is] and did what they did. We shall estimate the damage during the business hours."

"Every day, about 70-80 people come to the section to apply for consular services; and an not sure how we shall be able to serve them," he said.

The diplomat said Russian law enforcers encircled the consular section’s territory 20-30 minutes after the attack began. Nobody has been detained.

The local police do not comment on the incident. Continue reading.

The Wall Street Journal wrote:We’re Making Steady Progress in Ukraine, Despite Putin
By PETRO POROSHENKO June 10, 2015 7:19 p.m. ET

A crackdown on corruption is boosting investment and growth, even as we contend with Russian aggression.

When I became president of Ukraine a year ago this month, Crimea had been annexed, the country was standing on the brink of war and—after more than 20 years of Soviet-style governance, endemic corruption, cronyism and inefficient policy—our economy was sliding into decay. Continue reading.

CNN wrote:U.S., Europe ready new sanctions to deter Putin on Ukraine
By Elise Labott, CNN Updated 1816 GMT (0116 HKT) June 12, 2015

Obama threatens Russia with new sanctions

Washington (CNN)The United States and the European Union are finalizing further sanctions against Russia that could be imposed if Moscow takes additional military action in Ukraine, senior U.S. administration officials and European diplomats said Thursday.

The sources stressed that no decisions have been made yet to put additional measures in place. This week's renewed fighting triggered a discussion of additional sanctions, they said, but the fighting ended before a decision to act was made.

The sources said the potential new measures to be presented to Western leaders range from adding names and companies to the current sanctions to imposing broader penalties on Russia's financial, energy and defense sectors.

The point at which Russian military moves would prompt new sanctions is a case of "you know it when you see it," a senior administration official said. "It could be any major assault anywhere across the line of contact. We all know what we are talking about, and we want to be prepared and have stuff ready to go in case we need it."

"There is a whole range of different options leaders will have available to respond to any renewed Russian aggression, to which we could respond pretty quickly and vigorously. We are not talking about weeks," the official said.

Discussion of additional sanctions comes as the EU is widely expected to renew trade and personal sanctions on Russia over its actions in Ukraine when they expire toward the end of the month.

Both the U.S. and EU have linked the lifting of sanctions to implementation of a peace accord hammered out in February by Russia with the leaders of Ukraine, France and Germany in the capital of Belarus.

The so-called Minsk Agreement has been repeatedly violated. The U.S. and EU claim that most of those violations were by Russia and the separatists it supports. Some of the fiercest fighting since the agreement came this week, with heavy artillery fire reported near Donetsk. Continue reading.

TASS wrote:More than 336,000 Ukrainians receive refugee status or temporary asylum in Russia
Russia June 10, 18:30 UTC+3

Russian Migration Service official noted that the Russian government had allocated about 10 billion rubles for their accommodation and for meeting their basic needs

MOSCOW, June 10. /TASS/. More than 336,000 forcibly displaced persons from Ukraine have been granted asylum or refugee status in Russia, head of the Immigration Control Department of the Russian Migration Service Sergey Temryakovich told TASS on Wednesday.

"To date, more than 336,000 Ukrainian nationals have received temporary asylum or refugee status," he said. Temryakovich noted that the Russian government had allocated about 10 billion rubles for their accommodation and for meeting their basic needs.

As of mid-March, the number of Ukrainians who have been granted asylum or refugee status approached 300,000. Continue reading.

2SPOOKY4U wrote:Whir, do you enjoy posting garbage?

At least try to look at better sources, or simply sticking to YouTube videos?

I mean seriously, "Around the World, Russia fiercely defends the sovereign right of non-democratic governments to stay in power indefinitely."

Are you trying to beat us over the heads with propaganda?

Vann7 wrote:Well the previous video of Religious nuts praying for poroshenko and sponsoring his war.
was actually an old video of a rally in summer 2014 ,when the war was fresh.


A more recent update..
here is a new rally in kiev.. a Hunger protest may 21, 2015 ..  




This is what needs to happen in all Ukraine every day to stop Kiev war and kick
the CIAnazis from kiev and restore relations with Russia.

How will Ukrainians react if their nation economy collapse and banks no longer allows
people to withdraw money from banks.. look no further than argenina riots in 2001..
People stealing shopping malls , and any store or market.. police could not
contain them.. and President was forced to resign.. go to the 6min time.. to see
how bad can be..



People stealing everything.. IMF destroyed argentinian economy with their austerity..
and this is what Ukrainians needs to experience.. it needs t sink to the button ,for people
to change its mind and stop supporting kiev and wanting to be part of Europe and end their war and Rusophobia against the the country that can helps them.