Neutrality wrote:So apparently there are consultations on the situation in Ukraine behind closed doors today. Is it the old Normandy 4 group or someone else?
By the way, Europe has a much bigger problem to worry about right now: Greece. News websites are saying Greece's potential exit might have a bigger influence on other countries than initially expected. I'm guessing Merkel really wishes she didn't have to worry about Kiev too right now.
i Could be wrong.. but ..
It looks like Russia have caught by the balls Americans and Kiev in Ukraine conflict.
-The Kerry visit to Sochi ,looked like a retreat..
-the new US parliament law demanding no weapons to Azov (it could be a PR show however
to distance from a false flag or a major terrorist attack they will be ordered by Americans to do)
Like use chemical weapons against Donetsk.. etc..
-The legal Problems that the IMF will face world wide in financing Kiev if they stop paying Russia looks like painful and could end in legal problems and or losing credibility the institution to the button.. Since other countries like Greece can demand loans even if default.. if kiev can do it why we can't? So will truly destroy the credibility of the IMF as institution. Contrary to Government Banks credibility is very important ..obvious violation of international banking laws
like giving loans to kiev ,while in war and while default is a scandal... they will like to avoid.
-Poroshenko building 100km trenches along Donetsk Border and asking for speeding them while his public visit previous days.. could mean he is not intending to overrun
Rebels positions and expecting a long war..
-and Protest more regular asking Poroshenko to Resign..
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and More noticeable is.. the american Elite hysteria with Minsk-2.. they want the
entire Rules to be changed of "how to solve the conflict". Asking Russia for new referendum
in Crimea is a trap to declare fraud and create major unrest there. It also seeks to damage Putin image..
If my impressions are correct , then
it seems that it could be in theory a good tactic for Russia to intentionally ,not allow the conflict to be solved until ukraine is 100% de-nazified,new constitution in kiev for rights for minorities and full Autonomy for Donetsk and Lugansk and allow them to have their own security and local army.. it will literary turn
Novorosiya into a Semi independent COlony of kiev.. that will control everything locally and
Kiev only role will be collecting taxes and a symbolical border control.
So in theory it looks like Russia in theory all needs to do is remove all civilians from combat range zone in Donetsk and lugansk.. and just sit down and relax to drain Ukraine economy and see Americans ,IMF and Europe bleed their economies wasting billions and billions in keeping them alive .money that later will not be returned.. since kiev will collapse and more open fronts
will start in other cities demanding independence.
So effectively Russia have reversed the roles.. of what Americans intended to do. they wanted
Russian Army to invade and drain Russia economy maintaining 45 millions ukrainians after they
do a full scale army invasion... and keep fueling the violence later smugling mercenaries and weapons into Ukraine.. But what we have now?
Russia captured Crimea and they had a working healthy economy that will counter the cost of pensions. and Only Russia needs to maintain Donetsk and Lugansk that is 3 million people while
Americans and Europeans needs to finance and feed the rest of Ukraine about 40 millions people. So pretty much Russia can get any deal they want..and did not a need for rushing
the conflict to be solved ,once they remove the civilians from the dangerous zones.. in Ukraine because the conflict will never be solved without Russia help..and the IMF and Americans will not be able to finance ukraine war and feed most of the nation and sustain its economy so that the nation don;t collapse.
The entire Baltics Nato exercizes,militarization and talks of preventive nuclear strikes seems
like desperation attempts of Americans to force Russia negotiate with Ukraine..and unfreeze the
conflict.. so they do not lose control of the country .
So US gov..
-hey putin we will do this is you dont negotiate in Ukraine..
putin : im busy playing hockey ..we talk later..
-Hey putin ..we will send lethal weapons..
putin.. no worries..
-hey putin .. we have a new peace deal over here.. want to take a look?..
putin.. not at all ,we backup minsk-2 in full.. and we are ready to wait as long
as it takes for Ukraine to implement it..
in all this Putin visiting Italy like a rock star and euro olympics in baku.. and holding international events and enjoying life. While Americans Government working hard in kiev
to try to hold the nation in one piece and spending billions for it to not collapse.
Is a simplistic version ,but economically speaking the worse part is by far for Americans ,Kiev
and Europe and IMF.. they need every year to supply no less than USD 15 Billions to Ukraine with the knowledge that the probabilities are very high that Ukraine will not pay them back..Oil prices are skyrocketing again.. by the way.. so sad for Russia not. and demand for gas from europe increasing..