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    Post  Oguzhanoz Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:38 am

    Well we are just curious people that write stories about the intel we find.
    Yea i would wait for an air strike.So aggrasive comment.Maybe you may taste some new weapons in ukrain don't you Wink
    I really don't understand your point of view.I really have no position,i don't support anyone but telling my ideas according to intels we have so far.
    Can anyone write down the ammunition that Russian air force used in Syria so far ? Let's see the war crimes.I don't support head cutters but as you know " you should not throw stones to other houses' windows if your home is made of glass".
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    Post  Neutrality Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:40 am

    Oguzhanoz wrote:
    Can anyone write down the ammunition that Russian air force used in Syria so far ?

    Not nearly enough when we still have people like you polluting civilized online forums.
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    Post  Acheron Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:46 am

    Oguzhanoz wrote:Well,please don't be fanboys.If you keep tell asslovers etc, i will just remind you that we shot your plane down and you just cried.
    Please make logical comments.
    Oh they shot our plane down,we won't sunbath on hot beach this year.
    This doesn't work man.

    Ehhh....what? Who cried and where? When it comes to Russians, don't mistake fury, that is quickly replaced by cold simmering anger, and finally gives way to steely resolve for revenge as some kind of Mexican soap opera.

    Also, it is very apparent by the many pages of comments of both Turks in this thread that some tears being shed and anal discomfort felt about certain armed groups being blown up.

    And when it comes to holidays in Turkey, I hear Israel is spending lots of shekels to advertise "all-inclusive" holiday packages to Russians, which are apparently of similarly low cost and of better quality than Turkey. South East Asia and Cuba are also popular destinations. The world is a big place, and there is a lot of consumer choice when it comes to holidays. Somehow, I think the Russians will manage. Heck, maybe forcing tourists to stop visiting the same stale places will make them more cosmopolitan. One can hope.


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    Post  mack8 Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:46 am

    Well we are just curious people that write stories about the intel we find.
    Yea i would wait for an air strike.So aggrasive comment.Maybe you may taste some new weapons in ukrain don't you Wink
    I really don't understand your point of view.I really have no position,i don't support anyone but telling my ideas according to intels we have so far.
    Can anyone write down the ammunition that Russian air force used in Syria so far ? Let's see the war crimes.I don't support head cutters but as you know " you should not throw stones to other houses' windows if your home is made of glass".
    Oh this "Oguzhanoz" is definitely trolling i would say. I did noticed a sharp increase of pro-turkish and pro-jihadist filth sock-puppets and trolling  in other places, perhaps they are trying the same thing here. Fortunately at least here they are not fooling anyone with a brain. Like others said though, i wish folks here will keep their cool better and not lower themsleves to such low levels, given the very nasty things that have been said in this topic so far.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:51 am

    Oguzhanoz wrote:Well we are just  curious people that write stories about the intel we find.
    Yea i would wait for an air strike.So aggrasive comment.Maybe you may taste some new weapons in ukrain don't you Wink
    I really don't understand your point of view.I really have no position,i don't support anyone but telling my ideas according to intels we have so far.
    Can anyone write down the ammunition that Russian air force used in Syria so far ? Let's see the war crimes.I don't support head cutters but as you know " you should not throw stones to other houses' windows if your home is made of glass".


    Wa crimes? What's the Turkish policy against Kurdish smugglers ?
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    Post  Acheron Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:01 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Acheron wrote:
    Militarov wrote:[i]"Russian Su-24M communications equipment blamed for shootdown

    We know that's BS because Hmeymim airbase and the second Su-24 did not register any warnings on the agreed-upon frequency. What is the chance that 3 out of 3 receivers just malfunctioned at the same time?
    The Russian tracking data shows that this was clearly an ambush on Syrian territory. Also, the turks refused to release detailed data of the intercept + warning message to the Russians and denied the validity of the purported warning message leaked online. Is it me, or is something fishy?

    No, no, check the rest of the post. It seems R-862 model that SU24M had was VHF only.

    Yes, I did read the article. I find it hard to believe that after the first big commotion a month or so ago when the Russian plane first violated Turkish airspace, and after apparently agreeing to use a certain frequency in the future, something as stupid as this could actually happen. This would be as stupid as two presidents sharing telephone numbers in case of an international crisis, and then finding out that the phone number is wrong just as a call is to be made in order to prevent an international incident. Does that sound feasible to you? It sounds too comical to me.
    Let's not blindly trust Jane's just yet. I'd like to hear some corroborating evidence from Russian aviation specialists and/or MoD officials on the ground in Syria.
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    Post  Oguzhanoz Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:05 am

    Mostly accept,sometimes death.
    Well i am mocking that guy.He always reply me with a fanboy mouth.
    how did you understand that i support erdogan and jihadists Very Happy You really comment about things you don't even know the word meaning.
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    Post  Rodinazombie Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:09 am

    Acheron wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Acheron wrote:
    Militarov wrote:[i]"Russian Su-24M communications equipment blamed for shootdown

    We know that's BS because Hmeymim airbase and the second Su-24 did not register any warnings on the agreed-upon frequency. What is the chance that 3 out of 3 receivers just malfunctioned at the same time?
    The Russian tracking data shows that this was clearly an ambush on Syrian territory. Also, the turks refused to release detailed data of the intercept + warning message to the Russians and denied the validity of the purported warning message leaked online. Is it me, or is something fishy?

    No, no, check the rest of the post. It seems R-862 model that SU24M had was VHF only.

    Yes, I did read the article. I find it hard to believe that after the first big commotion a month or so ago when the Russian plane first violated Turkish airspace, and after apparently agreeing to use a certain frequency in the future, something as stupid as this could actually happen. This would be as stupid as two presidents sharing telephone numbers in case of an international crisis, and then finding out that the phone number is wrong just as a call is to be made in order to prevent an international incident. Does that sound feasible to you? It sounds too comical to me.
    Let's not blindly trust Jane's just yet. I'd like to hear some corroborating evidence from Russian aviation specialists and/or MoD officials on the ground in Syria.

    And the headline just would be 'russian equipment at fault for shootdown' wouldnt it? Nothing to do with the idiots who fired the missile then at a plane that was no threat to you or your country that flew about seven seconds over your territory?

    Even if, even if janes were correct, it doesnt make that the reason for the shootdown, it doesnt explain away the blatant ambush or the fact that the turkish plane encroached into syrian airspace and shot the plane down in syria. I smell someone trying to deflect here.

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    Post  arpakola Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:13 am

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    Post  Kadmos45 Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:18 am

    Oguzhanoz wrote:Mostly accept,sometimes death.
    Well i am mocking that guy.He always reply me with a fanboy mouth.
    how did you understand that i support erdogan and jihadists Very Happy You really comment about things you don't even know the word meaning.

    Spiko Englizo mi no anderstando no goohle automato sory !
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:20 am

    Oguzhanoz wrote:Ok it is my turn,but no fanboying please ^^
    1. so i am wrong,i just told the knowledge we have so far.But one was inside of the airspace.Maybe Airforce planned the shoot down one of the planes and waited for it to enter the airspace.
    2.Yea Turkish side protested,because Turkmens there is what we care at first place.
    For the other numbers : It is politics.Maybe this is what planned.Making Russia to enter a war that it can never win.We know that in syria,now or later,rebels will win.Because it is on enormous numbers today.If Russia and iran goes,Esad can not hold one week.Nobody can hold a war far away.Russia hold sivastopol which is a big naval base and nobody could do anything about it.I think politics can not hold this much.

    Yea turkmens and nusra is in close relationship.Because they both fight against Esad and Pyd.Nobody likes Nusra,actually we don't even know them and we only care turkmens just because they are Turks and fighting against Esad.Actually the relation between Syria and Turkey was never good.Syria always supported Pkk and we were close to war at the end of 90s.

    Everybody in here talks about Erdogan,Erdogan.Just because they only know it,but it is only one thing in Turkey.Clearly he is not a Putin for us.

    It's not ONE, both were forced to go through Turkish airspace. That's what your UN ambassador said. So it isn't an accident?
    Turkish side doesn't seem to protest anymore.
    If 'rebels' didn't managed to win in 5 years, I wouldn't have high hopes for them to win later.
    Numbers are the same, only "rebels" need more than TOWS and ammunition now. If they weren't paid and supplied and helped directly by Turkey in Latakia region, they would have folded as well.

    Nusra and Turkmens are the same organization. Turkmen pass ammunition and goods, Nusra uses them. So Turkmen are terrorist accomplices. So they are being killed now. Enjoy.

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    Post  Oguzhanoz Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:27 am

    Lets say all of russia in in war with moscow.Do you think moscow wins that war ? Even though it wins on field,it becomes enemy with its people.That i count a lose.
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    Post  Kadmos45 Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:31 am

    Oguzhanoz wrote:Lets say all of russia in in war with moscow.Do you think moscow wins that war ? Even though it wins on field,it becomes enemy with its people.That i count a lose.

    No piplo turka livo, oll dedo, so problemo solvo no enemo anymoro.
    Ju Donna starto woro. Woro bad , no woro no kilo, no dedo turko.


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:35 am

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Guys, are you reading the same things I am?
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    Post  SturmGuard Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:35 am

    It's nice this thread finally reached its actual purpose, the comedy relief. Well done, some genuine talent here.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:38 am

    Oguzhanoz wrote:Lets say all of russia in in war with moscow.Do you think moscow wins that war ? Even though it wins on field,it becomes enemy with its people.That i count a lose.

    Problem is deeper, the people are hostages of what has become a real deal proxy war. Nothing to do with Moscow and Rest of Russia. As in any civil war things won't be easy. See Russian Civil war for that or Armenian Genocide. Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Oguzhanoz Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:44 am

    i was just giving an example. Now if Esad wins or loses,what will happen next ? Theese groups will fight with each other military or politically.Look at iraq,they kurds,isis and goverment started to fight immediatly.
    Russia is in Syria due to it's benefits but it was a huge move after Georgia and Ukrain.I think NATO wanted to stop it.We will see the consequences but i don't think it will be on a minorty of Turkey.There is an Israil over there and silent so far.It sometimes hits Syrian bases.
    Why don'T Russia fighting against isis as it show off to public.I think there is no isis on turkmen side.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:47 am

    arpakola wrote:

    Why have you posted this in this thread?
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:00 am

    Oguzhanoz wrote:Well,please don't be fanboys.If you keep tell asslovers etc, i will just remind you that we shot your plane down and you just cried.
    Please make logical comments.
    Oh they shot our plane down,we won't sunbath on hot beach this year.
    This doesn't work man.

    Any news from your Turkmen brothers lately? Phone call, SMS, anything???

    Maybe you could sent some aircraft to check if they're still in one piece...literally... lol1 Razz

    ALSO:

    US General: Turkey Should Be Kicked Out of NATO

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151128/1030893620/turkey-should-be-kicked-out-of-nato.html#ixzz3sjdniDpO

    Tick-tock...
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:05 am

    SturmGuard wrote:It's nice this thread finally reached its actual purpose, the comedy relief. Well done, some genuine talent here.

    Agreed, but mods should rename this thing anyway.... lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  Kadmos45 Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:13 am

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Agreed, but mods should rename this thing anyway.... lol1 lol1 lol1

    Turkish trolls unite here ! That's a good name for this thread. Twisted Evil
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    Post  Guest Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:29 am

    Rodinazombie wrote:
    Acheron wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Acheron wrote:
    Militarov wrote:[i]"Russian Su-24M communications equipment blamed for shootdown

    We know that's BS because Hmeymim airbase and the second Su-24 did not register any warnings on the agreed-upon frequency. What is the chance that 3 out of 3 receivers just malfunctioned at the same time?
    The Russian tracking data shows that this was clearly an ambush on Syrian territory. Also, the turks refused to release detailed data of the intercept + warning message to the Russians and denied the validity of the purported warning message leaked online. Is it me, or is something fishy?

    No, no, check the rest of the post. It seems R-862 model that SU24M had was VHF only.

    Yes, I did read the article. I find it hard to believe that after the first big commotion a month or so ago when the Russian plane first violated Turkish airspace, and after apparently agreeing to use a certain frequency in the future, something as stupid as this could actually happen. This would be as stupid as two presidents sharing telephone numbers in case of an international crisis, and then finding out that the phone number is wrong just as a call is to be made in order to prevent an international incident. Does that sound feasible to you? It sounds too comical to me.
    Let's not blindly trust Jane's just yet. I'd like to hear some corroborating evidence from Russian aviation specialists and/or MoD officials on the ground in Syria.

    And the headline just would be 'russian equipment at fault for shootdown' wouldnt it? Nothing to do with the idiots who fired the missile then at a plane that was no threat to you or your country that flew about seven seconds over your territory?

    Even if, even if janes were correct, it doesnt make that the reason for the shootdown, it doesnt explain away the blatant ambush or the fact that the turkish plane encroached into syrian airspace and shot the plane down in syria. I smell someone trying to deflect here.


    It would however explain why Russian pilot did not hear "warnings" if they existed that is. But truly it seems not all SU24s have UHF recievers.
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    Serbian Red Star fans during match with Real raised Russian flag and transparent with the name in honor of Russian pilot.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:25 am

    Militarov wrote:

    Serbian Red Star fans during match with Real raised Russian flag and transparent with the name in honor of Russian pilot.

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