20385 mast
20386 model
20380 engine room pics
http://nortwolf-sam.blogspot.co.nz/2017/07/20380.html
Speaking to Jane’s at the International Maritime Defence Show (IMDS) in St Petersburg, industry sources confirmed that the Zaslon Multi-Purpose Navy Radar System (MF RLK ZASLON) has completed its development phase, and is “now ready to be deployed as the flagship radar of next generation ships in the Russian Navy”.
Google translate wrote:"In accordance with the indication of the Chief of the Navy, Admiral Vladimir Korolev, after a detailed study of the scientific organizations of the Navy a number of directions equipping warships class" frigate "and" corvette "multi-function radar system, the High Command of the Navy has intensified and concretized the question of bench tests naval weapon systems and, in particular, , the latest electronic weapons systems. For this most modern polygon database it will be used. This will allow the preliminary stage, to implementation and integration of systems into the new ship built defense enterprises, to fully experience one or the other set of electronic weapons and ship systems, avoiding the process of further revisions directly on the ship ", - said Deputy Navy Commander for Armaments Vice Admiral Victor Bursuc. According to him, "in the current 2017 I went to work and began to function was commissioning a modern landfill in Lake Ladoga, built PJSC" Northern Shipyard "and JSC" Barrier "and designed to test the latest electronic weapons, as well as optical systems. Landfill has the potential to create real conditions for shipboard testing equipment. This will significantly reduce the activities of the ship dates of tests and work out modes of application of radio systems in the environment of any complexity » Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Russian Federation Ministry of Defense
Источник: http://bastion-opk.ru/20385_01/ ОВТ «ОРУЖИЕ ОТЕЧЕСТВА» A.V.Karpenko
TheArmenian wrote:After successful completion of tests, Sovershenny will be handed over to the Navy (Pacific fleet) on the 20th of July.
A week or two after that, the second ship (Gromky) will be taken out of the construction yard and be prepared for launch.
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George1 wrote:So this must be the first new surface ship for Pacific fleet after over 25 years?
hoom wrote:
Still fascinated by that apparent stochastic layout of the T/R modules in the bottom antenna, pretty sure nobody has done that previously.
George1 wrote:The "Gromky" corvette is taken out of the shipbuilding yard of the Amur Shipyard
July 28, 2017 at the JSC "Amur Shipbuilding Plant" (ASZ, part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation JSC) in Komsomolsk-on-Amur took place the ceremony of removing the plant from the ship's docking and launching dock "Zeya" corvette "Gromky" project 20380 - the second corvette of this type being built by this enterprise for the Russian Navy.
At the ceremony it was reported that the overall technical readiness of the corvette "Gromky" is 75 percent. In the autumn, the corvette should be transferred for completion and subsequent testing for a new NAZHOK commissioning base. The delivery of the ship of the Navy is now scheduled for the end of 2018.
The contract for the construction of the first two Pacific Corvettes of the project 20380 with the factory numbers 2101 and 2102 was concluded with the Russian Defense Ministry on January 26, 2006. The second corvette for this contract, "Loud" (plant number 2102) was laid on the plant only on April 20, 2012. However, on February 12, 2014, ASH and the Russian Ministry of Defense reneged the contract for the construction of a corvette with factory number 2102 in connection with the revision of the price, as a result of a close to real costs of nuclear reactors.
The corvette of the project 20380 "Sovershennyy" (plant number 2101) was put into operation at the plant on June 30, 2006, but it was taken out of the plant's dock into the floating dock Zeya only on May 22, 2015 and was transferred to the current docking base in August 2015 ASZ in the Great Stone. The Corvette "Sovershennyy" began factory trials on January 30, 2017 and was transferred to the Russian Navy in Vladivostok on July 20, 2017.
At present, under the state contract dated June 4, 2015, the following two corvettes for this plant are being built at NPK under the state contract 20380 with factory numbers 2103 and 2104 - Hero of the Russian Federation Aldar Tsydenzhapov (plant number 2103, laid July 22, 2015) and "Rezkiy" (factory number 2104, incorporated on July 1, 2016).
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2756747.html
Google Translate wrote:According to press reports: 1. Uranium hit the shield at a range more calculated by certification according to its own surveillance equipment (Baltic experiences recall?)
2. The A-190 gun (a parable in the languages in the period under discussion), after the replacement of the manufacturer's rocket- The target drove into the water for 7 km, before entering the zone of defeat AK-630. In this case, Fourke (we will recall?), The target was observed from the moment of launch to the moment of destruction.
3. For naval targets, artillery fired so accurately that only half of the planned BC was used up (in order to save the shields). TSU worked out not only from Puma, which also had no complaints.
4. When shooting along the banks of the analogs, this gun is not exact in accuracy and fire modes.
5. Kolomna diesel was tested at the maximum speed and reverse without any restrictions. There was no problem - ZKhI was a failure of the reverse clutch.
6. In addition, more than 50 tests have been conducted, which in the Baltic on all four orders have not been conducted at all.
5. Kolomna diesel was tested at the maximum speed and reverse without any restrictions. There was no problem - ZKhI was a failure of the reverse clutch.6. In addition, more than 50 tests have been conducted, which in the Baltic on all four orders have not been conducted at all.
PapaDragon wrote:5. Kolomna diesel was tested at the maximum speed and reverse without any restrictions. There was no problem - ZKhI was a failure of the reverse clutch.6. In addition, more than 50 tests have been conducted, which in the Baltic on all four orders have not been conducted at all.
So let me see if get this straight: this entire class of ships was lagging with production, had inflated prices, and proven to be barely reliable due to the fact that it was saddled with shitty Ukrainian engines that entire planet is advertising as "fucking awesome" and without which "Russian Navy is screwed" according to experts?
Entire Baltic Fleet was in the shitter because of the presence of "superior Ukrainian technology"?
Imagine how many frigates Navy would have had by now had they stuck with local product instead of Kiev shit?
Hopefully Derzkii class redeems this entire type of ships now that Kolomna delivered the goods.
As for Baltic Fleet they should order fresh sets of engines from Kolomna, rip out Ukrainian crap engines and give them to VKS so they can drop them on Rada in Kiev.
I was right all this time.
Superior Ukrainian engines my hairy white ass...
GarryB wrote:If they had not bought ukrainian stuff then the ukraine likely would have turned west much faster and with less time for mismanagement the people might have been more fooled by western promises of prosperity.
The Crimea might have become part of the EU...
the problem with what ifs is that you can't just change one thing and expect the changes you want.
the period after 1990 to the mid early 2000s there was not that much money available for things... or should I say there was not a lot of money spent on military things, so if you want Russian companies to have money spent on them to replace ukrainian production of engines then you have to take it away from somewhere... SAMs? Radar technology? Kret?
Personally I think what they did was acceptable... they gave the Ukraine every chance not to be assholes, and all the while worked on their own engine technology... the PS90A development of the engine for the Il-76 was US engine technology... they would never have gotten that if they played hardball with Kiev.
Now they are much better placed to make better engines now... back then probably not so much.
KiloGolf wrote:
They have no excuse. If they wanted Ukraine to stay allied, they should have kept Russian Army bases and air bases throughout the country and lobby Ukraine to join CSTO or whatever. Kuchma was allowed to play ball in the West, he shouldn't have. In the end, Russia paid for Ukrainian companies to stay afloat at the expense of national security (deal such delicate contracts to a country that wants to join your enemy's alliance).