The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

Ispan wrote:I regret not having the time to report, but this graphic shows how the situation worsens everyday

And Orcs waste 1589 shells for what results? Make Novorussian army angry? Orcs doesn't produce ammunition, they are depending on their reserve stocks. They already lost half of their artillery. We could only imagine, how much of their ammunition stocks they already lost in all those battles, destroyed by direct hits of novorussian artillery or captured? Their stocks are not infinite.

Militarov wrote:50.000 TOWs would be like one 5th of all serviceable TOWs in the world lol

You gentlemen need to stop replying to that troll, he's a fifteen year old child whose mental capacity rivals that of a fried snail.

auslander wrote:

Militarov wrote:50.000 TOWs would be like one 5th of all serviceable TOWs in the world lol

You gentlemen need to stop replying to that troll, he's a fifteen year old child whose mental capacity rivals that of a fried snail.  

He amuses me >.<

JohninMK wrote:Remember that ammo dump that went up with a fireworks display in Ukraine last Autumn? Well the legal side rumbles on and how about the damage photo. All that gear not to be used in the ATO. Yandex translate from bmpd

As Diana Mikhailova writes in the article "the Negligence and fireworks. The results of the explosion at the ammunition depots in Svatovo", published by the information Agency RIA Novosti (Ukraine), thanks to the published decision of the Pechersk district court of Kiev has considered in open court the petition of the Prosecutor of Department of the Main military Prosecutor Prosecutor General of Ukraine about the extension of remand in custody against the suspect joint chiefs of warehouses is rocket-artillery arms "sector A" (Svatove, Ukraine-controlled part of Luhansk region), became known the true extent of the disaster at these stores October 29, 2015.

Destroyed in the explosion 29.10.2015 in Svatovo (Ukraine-controlled part of Luhansk region) combat vehicles 9P140 MLRS "Hurricane" Ukrainian armed forces (with) Diana Mikhailova / RIA Novosti (Ukraine)

Heavy toll on MLRS in that fire:

One combat vehicle 9A52 "Smerch", four transport-charging machines 9T234 to BM 9A52 "Smerch", seven combat vehicles 9P140 "Hurricane", eight transport-loading vehicle 9T452 to BM 9P140 "Hurricane

http://rian.com.ua/columnist/20160518/1010164328.html

So one "Smerch" and seven "Uragans" launching vehicles lost plus logistical vehicles (4 for "Smerch" & 8 for "Uragan).

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Yup, fixed, sorry did not read in detail

In more news..Jamala Busted.  

Poroshneko himself exposed her own singer Jamala re-using an old
song for the Eurovision contest. He didn't knew clearly it was another breach of the rules.  



So now we know the song not only was political ,breaching the rules , but also Jamala can be sued for plagiarism for re-using an old song and later claim it was new.    what she did can be taken to a court , easily , and even if she is not disqualify ,the shame that the organizers will
need to deal are too much. Jamala and Eurovision will make headlines for cheating and fraud and not for any artistic skills.  What is funny is to see Poroshenko himself exposing the fraud about
the song being old folk song of the tatars ,not new song like Eurovision demands.  

So many a new song to counter Jamala.. could
sayd..

They lie to you ,they cheat to you ,later they claim they are not guilty .

It seems there is nothing left to steal from people, so now 404 army and also hard core nazi guards are selling their armament to Novorussian army for a change to get some money. I think it will not last long, when they will start selling their armament for alcohol, cigarettes, food, water, fuel, etc. I wonder, how many vehicles they sold to Novorussian army in this year time of cease fire, which are most probably still counted in military strength of 404 army and nazi guards, but are now in reality in Novorussian army. Even if Novorussian army use them only as source of spare parts it is of a good use for them.

sepheronx wrote:35,000 for Donbass? Umm I think there are far more than that.

Based on what?

Ispan wrote:
#Breaking Current comparison between #Ukraine & #Donbas > weapons & soldiers

There is a mistake with large caliber MLRSs. Novorussian have captured both Uragan and Smerch MLRSs and they used them in combat last year. Novorussian army used Smerch MLRS against Ukrainian command positions in Slavyansk airfield. Writing 0 for heavy MLRSs is a mistake and an important mistake, because Novorussian army have them. Not many, but they have them.

I also doubt Ukraine have 800 operational tanks. I would say 500 tanks are max for operational tanks. Others in their reserves are more or less cannibalized for spare parts.

There is a real question if Ukraine actually have 2000 to 2500 guns and howitzers. Maybe they count mortars of all calibers here as well, but in that case, there is a good question, how many mortars have Novorussian army and could be the number on Novorussian side higher than that given here.

I would say numerically Novorussian army have similar number of soldiers around 100.000,when fully mobilize their reserves. And considering, that in heavy armament, they are not that far behind Ukrainian army and when we think about quality, I would not be that much surprised, if Novorussian equipment is better maintained than Ukrainian one, I think Novorussian army actually have the same power on the front as Ukrainian army.

franco wrote:The best that I can ascertain is that there are;
~33-35,000 full time regulars
~9-10,000 part time
~25-35,000 reservist

That sounds realistic.

500 tanks in Novorossian Army? Beyond doubtful. Havent we just few months ago had one of their officials saying how they have 126 operational tanks?