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Good, in the event of a total conflict, Kiev needs to be liberated and rightfully returned to Russia. It is an important piece of Russia’s history, the birth place of the Kievan Rus.
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The Situation in the Ukraine. #25
Project Canada- Posts : 662
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Good, in the event of a total conflict, Kiev needs to be liberated and rightfully returned to Russia. It is an important piece of Russia’s history, the birth place of the Kievan Rus.
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ukrops border guard barracks burns in Lvov
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Khepesh wrote:ukrops border guard barracks burns in Lvov
Who the heck manufactures those air conditioners anyway?
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franco wrote:Khepesh wrote:ukrops border guard barracks burns in Lvov
...............
Who the heck manufactures those air conditioners anyway?
Maintenance crew probably replaced freon with napalm. Rookie mistake...
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Problem is that Western Ukraine is still full of morons that still think the whole deal is all Russia's fault. Nothing's going to change that now. You only have to look at the attitudes in places such as Lithuania, Latvia, Finland and Poland to understand that rabid Russophobia can not be countered by their own economic reality. Majority of those Eastern States are still abject failures, and they've been a part of the West for how long? Yet who do they still blame? Nothing will change until the Western hegemony that they so desperately love collapses. Kiev doesn't want to be liberated, they want to be enslaved.Project Canada wrote:
Good, in the event of a total conflict, Kiev needs to be liberated and rightfully returned to Russia. It is an important piece of Russia’s history, the birth place of the Kievan Rus.
Odin of Ossetia- Posts : 947
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Project Canada wrote:
Good, in the event of a total conflict, Kiev needs to be liberated and rightfully returned to Russia. It is an important piece of Russia’s history, the birth place of the Kievan Rus.
"Kievian Rus" is an artificial term coined in the 19th century.
Since when is a little Varangian-occupied Khazar frontier stronghold a birth place of anything except the Ukrainians?
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OminousSpudd wrote:Problem is that Western Ukraine is still full of morons that still think the whole deal is all Russia's fault. Nothing's going to change that now. You only have to look at the attitudes in places such as Lithuania, Latvia, Finland and Poland to understand that rabid Russophobia can not be countered by their own economic reality. Majority of those Eastern States are still abject failures, and they've been a part of the West for how long? Yet who do they still blame? Nothing will change until the Western hegemony that they so desperately love collapses. Kiev doesn't want to be liberated, they want to be enslaved.Project Canada wrote:
Good, in the event of a total conflict, Kiev needs to be liberated and rightfully returned to Russia. It is an important piece of Russia’s history, the birth place of the Kievan Rus.
Oh really? Most people in Poland would not even resist a Russian invasion of that country, and you are claiming Poland as an example of "Russophobia"?
Try invading U.S.A., U.K., and Germany, and see how much they love you.
JohninMK- Posts : 15654
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Anyone got any views on the accuracy of this about an Orlan operating over Ukraine in May 2016? Its in Russian.
http://ppt-online.org/52115
http://ppt-online.org/52115
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What?Odin of Ossetia wrote:OminousSpudd wrote:Problem is that Western Ukraine is still full of morons that still think the whole deal is all Russia's fault. Nothing's going to change that now. You only have to look at the attitudes in places such as Lithuania, Latvia, Finland and Poland to understand that rabid Russophobia can not be countered by their own economic reality. Majority of those Eastern States are still abject failures, and they've been a part of the West for how long? Yet who do they still blame? Nothing will change until the Western hegemony that they so desperately love collapses. Kiev doesn't want to be liberated, they want to be enslaved.Project Canada wrote:
Good, in the event of a total conflict, Kiev needs to be liberated and rightfully returned to Russia. It is an important piece of Russia’s history, the birth place of the Kievan Rus.
Oh really? Most people in Poland would not even resist a Russian invasion of that country, and you are claiming Poland as an example of "Russophobia"?
Try invading U.S.A., U.K., and Germany, and see how much they love you.
Eastern Europe would present a problem because they actually have the guts to fight for what they believe in, (falsely or not). The rest of Europe would be a cakewalk, useless libtards would be mowed down under martial law.
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Been a rumor for a few days about OSCE secretly planning to leave Donetsk, despite calls from Kremlin that they should increase mission size. The blue truck seen in the article with OSCE jeep was stopped trying to cross from ukrops occupied territory to Donetsk. OSCE were rather furtive and when the truck was opened it was found to be empty, then one of the OSCE admitted they were going to "take things away". Truck then left Donetsk some time later fully loaded. There have been other rumors of pull out, but all seemed like stuffing, but this has a bit more substance. Of course OSCE, or any type of mission, moves people and materiel around, but a large truck moving things out at this time seems unusual. http://dnr24.su/extra-news/16041-sotrudniki-obse-tayno-evakuiruyutsya-iz-donecka.html
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Nothing to do with not wanting to be caught in an actual conflict of course. In the remote possibility it happens. Health and Safety in HQ must have suddenly woken up to their duty of care to their employees. Based on what one wonders.Khepesh wrote:Been a rumor for a few days about OSCE secretly planning to leave Donetsk, despite calls from Kremlin that they should increase mission size. The blue truck seen in the article with OSCE jeep was stopped trying to cross from ukrops occupied territory to Donetsk. OSCE were rather furtive and when the truck was opened it was found to be empty, then one of the OSCE admitted they were going to "take things away". Truck then left Donetsk some time later fully loaded. There have been other rumors of pull out, but all seemed like stuffing, but this has a bit more substance. Of course OSCE, or any type of mission, moves people and materiel around, but a large truck moving things out at this time seems unusual. http://dnr24.su/extra-news/16041-sotrudniki-obse-tayno-evakuiruyutsya-iz-donecka.html
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Jade Empire down not forget insults. On the upside it will be nice to see these birds flying again. They will look nice next to Ermac heavy transport on the airshows.
China Retaliates Against Ukraine by Taking Its Soviet-Designed Cargo Plane, Mriya
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/shina-insults-ukraine-acquiring-its-soviet-designed-cargo-plane-mriya/ri16220
Kiev will pay dearly for not honoring its debt obligations to Beijing
Irina Alksnis
The Russian Internet exploded at the recent news about a legendary Soviet cargo plane, the Antonov An-225 Mriya, becoming the property of China. The way the deal was announced by the parties is indicative of its content.
China’s CCTV –TV – has reported that the Celestial Kingdom will get the plane from the Ukrainian state corporation lock, stock and barrel, including a full set of documents. A few hours later, Antonov denied this information, later making a vague comment on the deal.
We’re left wondering which side is telling the truth. Personally, I think the choice between an official Chinese agency and a Ukrainian source is obvious.
But why did they choose to announce it in this strange way? There have been other cases when big deals were scotched for less. Silence and delicacy are elementary in business, and the Chinese know this.
So what happened? The explanation is probably quite simple. First, the Chinese know Ukraine is in a bind. But also, apart from getting the Mriya, they want to humiliate Ukraine in public.
That’s why the statement by CCTV was so crude, so offensive to Ukraine.
Looking at previous news feeds, we discover that China has has behaved this way towards China before. A few days ago it was revealed that Beijing had not invited Peter Poroshenko to the September G20 Summit in Hangzhou, even though the Ukrainians tried hard to make it happen, including publicly, looking pretty foolish. Ukraine was ignored by China, although it invited the leaders of Chad, Laos and Senegal.
And just yesterday China publicly gave Ukraine slap in the face, refusing to import its infested grain.
China has several reasons for this offensive behavior toward Ukraine, but one of them is the three-billion-dollar grain loan, a story that’s not unusual for Ukraine: In 2013 China provided a three billion-dollar loan to Ukraine to deliver grain and buy Chinese goods. Then Maidan happened and the loan was terminated before Kiev’s obligations were carried out. The new authorities went so far as to say: “You gave money to Yanukovich, so ask him.”
But only a complete fool would think that China would so easily forgive deceit, breach of contract and robbery. Ukraine will have to pay and repent.
It’s also strange that CCTV didn’t mention the amount of money involved, suggesting that China is getting the Mriya in lieu of debt repayment. Beijing will take every opportunity to wipe its boots on Ukraine publicly. Because everything comes at a price.
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Former NATO chief: west ready to provide Ukraine with lethal weapons if situation does not stabilize
http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/04/former-nato-chief-west-ready-to-provide-ukraine-with-lethal-weapons-if-situation-does-not-stabilize/
http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/04/former-nato-chief-west-ready-to-provide-ukraine-with-lethal-weapons-if-situation-does-not-stabilize/
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airstrike wrote:Former NATO chief: west ready to provide Ukraine with lethal weapons if situation does not stabilize
http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/04/former-nato-chief-west-ready-to-provide-ukraine-with-lethal-weapons-if-situation-does-not-stabilize/
Usual NATO horseshit. Still trying to give meaning to their existence.
Everyone hopes they do it, it would mean NAF will be getting entire Russian military surplus withing a weekend.
And some fresh stuff for testing on top.
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PapaDragon wrote:airstrike wrote:Former NATO chief: west ready to provide Ukraine with lethal weapons if situation does not stabilize
http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/04/former-nato-chief-west-ready-to-provide-ukraine-with-lethal-weapons-if-situation-does-not-stabilize/
Usual NATO horseshit. Still trying to give meaning to their existence.
Everyone hopes they do it, it would mean NAF will be getting entire Russian military surplus withing a weekend.
And some fresh stuff for testing on top.
Exactly, this will guarantee NAF will get fresh supplies of new gear. Bet the lethal weapons they will give will be shit like M4's some artillery some shorads, etc. Nothing that will ultimately help and NATO knows will be captured so they won't give anything new or good.
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Of course, they will! 
Ukrainian neo-Nazi leader: We're all going to end up in the Hague
The militants of Ukrainian nationalist formations involved in the war in Donbass could be convicted by an international tribunal as war criminals. This was recognized by the leader of the Svoboda party, Oleg Tyagnibok, live on NewsOne.
“Tomorrow we will have very big problems with international courts, because I have no doubt that, after this conflict, after this war, Moscow will take our today’s heroes to court, because according even to current legislation, they don’t have the right to bear arms,” Tyagnibok stated.
As PolitNavigator reported, earlier in Kiev the name of the first Ukrainian official who could be judged by the Hague Tribunal for unleashing the war in Donbass was revealed. The former leader of the Ukrainian National Assembly-Ukrainian People’s Self Defense, Dmitry Korchinsky, expressed concern over this.
According to Korchinsky, the head of the interior ministry, Arsen Avakov, gave the order to distribute weapons to people (who were not supposed to obtain them according to law) at the very beginning of the tragic events of 2014 in Donbass.
“When there was an absolute paralysis of state will, there were only two or three people from the top government leadership who spat at all the consequences and went ahead and took responsibility. They created the first volunteer battalions, and gave us weapons. We fought with these weapons, resisted an offensive, and beat the Moskals [a derogatory term for Russians, loosely meaning “Muscovites” - JA] back from Mariupol, and began to liberate Donbass with the weapons that Avakov was not afraid to give us. Any official in his place would have been scared to death and fled to somewhere in Portugal. But what consequences can there be for risking to give who knows what kind of patriots weapons in order to defend the fatherland? So it’s possible that this could go to the Hague Tribunal. But he was not afraid,” Korchinsky said.
Source:
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/09/ukrainian-neo-nazi-leader-were-all.html
Ukrainian neo-Nazi leader: We're all going to end up in the Hague
The militants of Ukrainian nationalist formations involved in the war in Donbass could be convicted by an international tribunal as war criminals. This was recognized by the leader of the Svoboda party, Oleg Tyagnibok, live on NewsOne.
“Tomorrow we will have very big problems with international courts, because I have no doubt that, after this conflict, after this war, Moscow will take our today’s heroes to court, because according even to current legislation, they don’t have the right to bear arms,” Tyagnibok stated.
As PolitNavigator reported, earlier in Kiev the name of the first Ukrainian official who could be judged by the Hague Tribunal for unleashing the war in Donbass was revealed. The former leader of the Ukrainian National Assembly-Ukrainian People’s Self Defense, Dmitry Korchinsky, expressed concern over this.
According to Korchinsky, the head of the interior ministry, Arsen Avakov, gave the order to distribute weapons to people (who were not supposed to obtain them according to law) at the very beginning of the tragic events of 2014 in Donbass.
“When there was an absolute paralysis of state will, there were only two or three people from the top government leadership who spat at all the consequences and went ahead and took responsibility. They created the first volunteer battalions, and gave us weapons. We fought with these weapons, resisted an offensive, and beat the Moskals [a derogatory term for Russians, loosely meaning “Muscovites” - JA] back from Mariupol, and began to liberate Donbass with the weapons that Avakov was not afraid to give us. Any official in his place would have been scared to death and fled to somewhere in Portugal. But what consequences can there be for risking to give who knows what kind of patriots weapons in order to defend the fatherland? So it’s possible that this could go to the Hague Tribunal. But he was not afraid,” Korchinsky said.
Source:
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/09/ukrainian-neo-nazi-leader-were-all.html
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sepheronx wrote:PapaDragon wrote:airstrike wrote:Former NATO chief: west ready to provide Ukraine with lethal weapons if situation does not stabilize
http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/04/former-nato-chief-west-ready-to-provide-ukraine-with-lethal-weapons-if-situation-does-not-stabilize/
Usual NATO horseshit. Still trying to give meaning to their existence.
Everyone hopes they do it, it would mean NAF will be getting entire Russian military surplus withing a weekend.
And some fresh stuff for testing on top.
Exactly, this will guarantee NAF will get fresh supplies of new gear. Bet the lethal weapons they will give will be shit like M4's some artillery some shorads, etc. Nothing that will ultimately help and NATO knows will be captured so they won't give anything new or good.
The new is inot well presented. It should be:
Advisor of President Poroshenko: west ready to provide Ukraine with lethal weapons if situation does not stabilize
Now the people has the real measure of the meaning of the new.
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This morning Pushilin spoke about possibility of internal collapse/coup and "war party" of radikals and nationalists coming to power in Kiev http://dnr-news.com/dnr/35265-pushilin-ne-isklyuchil-raspada-ukrainy-i-prihoda-k-vlasti-v-kieve-partii-voyny.html
"Ceasefire" broken this morning when ukrops fired into western Petrovsky from Marinka with mortars and 122mm artillery, and with 122mm artillery onto Dokuchaevsk.
Last week Givi was promoted to polkovnik, then on Saturday Motorola was also promoted to polkovnik. It seems, but not certain, that "Somali" may be increased to brigade size, as that is what Givi should command as polkovnik, but uncertain as to what will happen with Motorola and "Sparta" as he too should now be commanding brigade, or at least a two battalion regiment. Possibly nothing will change as a certain amount of rank inflation has taken place without creation of formations to be commanded by those with the higher ranks. However, I see possibility of Motorola commanding "Sparta" and 9th Marine regiment.
Yesterday the offices of Kiev TV channel "INTER", accused by radikals as "pro Russian" were again attacked and the building set on fire. That "INTER" supported maidan is not relevant in the strange "looking glass world" of 404http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2938738.html
"Ceasefire" broken this morning when ukrops fired into western Petrovsky from Marinka with mortars and 122mm artillery, and with 122mm artillery onto Dokuchaevsk.
Last week Givi was promoted to polkovnik, then on Saturday Motorola was also promoted to polkovnik. It seems, but not certain, that "Somali" may be increased to brigade size, as that is what Givi should command as polkovnik, but uncertain as to what will happen with Motorola and "Sparta" as he too should now be commanding brigade, or at least a two battalion regiment. Possibly nothing will change as a certain amount of rank inflation has taken place without creation of formations to be commanded by those with the higher ranks. However, I see possibility of Motorola commanding "Sparta" and 9th Marine regiment.
Yesterday the offices of Kiev TV channel "INTER", accused by radikals as "pro Russian" were again attacked and the building set on fire. That "INTER" supported maidan is not relevant in the strange "looking glass world" of 404http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2938738.html
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Wow so it is Iulia Timochenco 
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Sometimes problems emerge from seemingly nowhere. Last week there were problems in Odessa oblast when a Roma man was arrested in Loshchinovka for rape and murder of girl. As consequence of this the Roma community was attacked and houses burnt. Now there are problems at Makhukovka in Poltava oblast, as Roma, armed with axes, hoes and iron rods, chased and attacked non Roma children, putting one in hosptial. I already noticed that some MSM reported about the events in Odessa, but only about the attacks on Roma, not the reason for these attacks, yet more propaganda by silence.... Anyway, this incident will be a little harder for them to report, so probably they will ignore it, unless enraged residents attack Roma, then that, and only that aspect will be the story. https://lenta.ru/news/2016/09/06/ukraina_cygane/
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Even RT reported the Odessa incident on time, Gypsies forced out of Ukrainian village, violence erupts following killing of 8yo girl (VIDEO), so hardly a coverup; looking at the aftermath with "no less than 50" moving out the governor has emerged as the winner by "fully sharing the outrage of the locals".Khepesh wrote:Sometimes problems emerge from seemingly nowhere. Last week there were problems in Odessa oblast when a Roma man was arrested in Loshchinovka for rape and murder of girl. As consequence of this the Roma community was attacked and houses burnt. Now there are problems at Makhukovka in Poltava oblast, as Roma, armed with axes, hoes and iron rods, chased and attacked non Roma children, putting one in hosptial. I already noticed that some MSM reported about the events in Odessa, but only about the attacks on Roma, not the reason for these attacks, yet more propaganda by silence.... Anyway, this incident will be a little harder for them to report, so probably they will ignore it, unless enraged residents attack Roma, then that, and only that aspect will be the story. https://lenta.ru/news/2016/09/06/ukraina_cygane/
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Western media did not report, as far as I saw, the reason why the Roma were forced from their homes, so making it seem an unprovoked attack on Roma. The purpose of my post was not really about Roma, it is about the West and their cynicism and bizarre "hierachy of victims". There is a descending order of who are "victims" in Western Orwellian political correctness that need "protecting". Roma are not far from the top in this order, behind other ethnic groups, so they are regarded as "victims" even if they are the perpetrators of crimes. The West has nothing but contempt for Slavs and despite what they say in public, see the population of Ukraine as Russians, therefore, by their Orwellian terms of reference, the absolute bottom of the pile, almost non people. This is of course nazi and hypocritical. It shows that West does not care about the people of Ukraine, only minorities approved of by the West, when it suits their purpose.
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I wrote that the grain harvest was expected to be good, well, it is so good that DNR Council of Ministers have decided to export flour and have set an amount of 76250 tons to be exported to RF and other countries, except Ukraine, from the state run "Elenovskaya Bakery" http://dnr-news.com/dnr/35297-sovmin-dnr-vvel-lgoty-na-tranzit-prodazhu-i-vyvoz-elenovskoy-muki-za-predely-respubliki.html
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Trying to relate a makeshift pogrom to some Orwellian conspiracy is completely insane, the truth is that no one cares about village feuds among Ukrainians.Khepesh wrote:Western media did not report, as far as I saw, the reason why the Roma were forced from their homes, so making it seem an unprovoked attack on Roma. The purpose of my post was not really about Roma, it is about the West and their cynicism and bizarre "hierachy of victims". There is a descending order of who are "victims" in Western Orwellian political correctness that need "protecting". Roma are not far from the top in this order, behind other ethnic groups, so they are regarded as "victims" even if they are the perpetrators of crimes. The West has nothing but contempt for Slavs and despite what they say in public, see the population of Ukraine as Russians, therefore, by their Orwellian terms of reference, the absolute bottom of the pile, almost non people. This is of course nazi and hypocritical. It shows that West does not care about the people of Ukraine, only minorities approved of by the West, when it suits their purpose.
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Khepesh wrote:Western media did not report, as far as I saw, the reason why the Roma were forced from their homes, so making it seem an unprovoked attack on Roma. The purpose of my post was not really about Roma, it is about the West and their cynicism and bizarre "hierachy of victims". There is a descending order of who are "victims" in Western Orwellian political correctness that need "protecting". Roma are not far from the top in this order, behind other ethnic groups, so they are regarded as "victims" even if they are the perpetrators of crimes. The West has nothing but contempt for Slavs and despite what they say in public, see the population of Ukraine as Russians, therefore, by their Orwellian terms of reference, the absolute bottom of the pile, almost non people. This is of course nazi and hypocritical. It shows that West does not care about the people of Ukraine, only minorities approved of by the West, when it suits their purpose.
Respectfully, Khepesh,
I read that the person who raped and murdered the girl was not Roma.
On the contrary, in the West, Roma are treated very badly. Spit on in public, etc. Discriminated against in England, even Ireland, and the USA. & other European countries
They have a bad rep. , in the USA (the Travelers), and with reason, but not all are criminals.
At the present there is a religious revival going on in the Gypsy Church in Wales among the Roma, Travelers, etc. Thousands are converting to Jesus Christ.
IMHO, the Roma were attacked in Ukraine, IN PART because ultra Nationalists in Ukraine attack anyone who is not "Ukrainian", as they attacked the Vietnamese.
Probably most persons in the USA haven't got a clue who the Roma are, nor anything about them, so DO NOT perceive them as Russian.
Persons who are educated know the Roma ancestors came from India.
Western media didn't report it, because Western media doesn't report cow dung.
About 10,000 Native Americans, all tribes, are at Cannonball South Dakota, protesting an oil pipe line, protecting water (Missouri river). They were attacked with attack dogs by private security. Do you think the Western Media is reporting it? No, not unless it's propaganda, against them.
Democracy Now happened to be there, or no one would have been there to report.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/9/4/dakota_access_pipeline_company_attacks_native
edited to add: I personally know of no one in the USA who has contempt for Slavs or hates Russians. What persons see in the West or the USA is political bullshit, propaganda, in the media,-- political parties attempting to justify their actions, or Administrations attempting to justify their actions, etc. boot-licking Corporations, Wall Street and the super wealthy of the world... ugh...money, greed...
We've had Occupy Wall Street, which protestors were stepped on hard. We've just had a rigged election, where Hillary got the Dem. nomination instead of Bernie Sanders, the result being Dem Exit, persons leaving the Democrat Party, & hopefully Americans will come together to change the status quo, if they can.
We are a Country of all ethnicities.
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