PLA Navy and Naval Air Force

Isos wrote:The general clearly says that there was hacking attempt and jaming. So they knew where they were.

So they can track a british sub but not two ships ? Seriously ?

No matter from where your picture is. It is a picture for domestic public with no more information than what french said. They lied when they said everything was fine during the operation while they had issues with launches. Why beleive a picture made by the same persons ?

Fremm are good but not invisible. Unless they fired from 1000km they detected them.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Detected or not, the French, UK & US strikes didn't change much on the ground in Syria, to put it nicely. If they attempt larger strikes on PRC mainland/islands, their detection & tracking will be even easier.
The Soviet & later Russian VMF subs & planes operated in the W. Pacific/SC Sea & the RF VMF may also send its subs there to assist the PLAN, gather intel., & for training against real potential enemies.

The over-the-horizon radar, which was installed in January 2017, has a range of about three-thousand kilometers, enabling it to detect not only South Korea and Japan but even the Western Pacific. That's far bigger than the coverage of THAAD's X-band Radar,.. which has a range of 600 to 800 kilometers. According to the Chinese media, the Tianbo radar can also detect U.S. F-35B stealth fighters deployed at the Iwakuni base in Japan. It can also monitor aircraft carriers and warships within its radius. ..China's sky-wave system radar system can detect U.S. aircraft and ships at a long distance from the coastline of the country. ..Sky wave over the [horizon] radar distance of 1000 to 4000 km. The effect of ground-wave over-the-horizon radar is short, but it can monitor the area that can not be covered by sky-wave over-the-horizon radar. The red area in the picture is the exploration area facing the East China Sea that can be covered by the combination of the skywave radar and the ground wave radar in China, and reaches the outer edge of the second island chain.
China has deployed an Over-the-Horizon Backscatter Radar [OTH-B] to provide surveillance of the South China Sea. The precise location of this facility remained unclear. https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/china/oth-b.htm

Tsavo Lion wrote:Oh really? I've read on a Russian site that they observed training planes taking off in Holland. The type of aircraft can be deduced by the length of run & takeoff speed. Ships r a lot bigger than planes. Planes leaving a ship & returning to it exposes that it's a CVN. Space & other assets will be used too, so there's redundancy.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Holland is at sea level (some parts r even below it), & they detected those small training planes before leaving the ground. A CVN flight deck is a few dozen feet above the sea level, & its planes r larger & faster. How do u know that China's radars r blind to them, irrespective of what Australia has or doesn't have in this area now?

Tsavo Lion wrote:Here, "from the horse's mouth": https://leon-rumata.livejournal.com/731483.html

From Hainan, 3,000 km radius covers an entire area between Guam, S.Sumatra & Sri Lanka.

He said Saprykin, the possibility of radar "Container" allows you to track even small aircraft. "I am sitting in Mordovia at the receiving position of such a station, watching the Dutch pilots learn to fly small sport aircraft", - he said.

He said Saprykin, the possibility of radar "Container" allows you to track even small aircraft. "I am sitting in Mordovia at the receiving position of such a station, watching the Dutch pilots learn to fly small sport aircraft", - he said.

In Russia, there will be a new network of over-the-horizon radar stations (ZGRLS) "Container" to detect aircraft at distances of up to 3000 km. The work on its deployment has already begun.
The network of over-the-horizon radar will shortly cover the entire Russian territory with a radar field and will allow for reconnaissance of airspace beyond its borders, Interfax reports.
ZGRLS "Container", developed by the scientific and production complex "Research Institute of Long-distance Radio Communication" (NPID "NIIDAR"). The general designer of the enterprise Sergey Saprykin told reporters: "This is a new generation of over-the-horizon stations, such radars can detect any aircraft, everything that moves.
According to him, Saprykin, the possibilities of the "Container" radar make it possible to track even small aircraft. "I myself, sitting in Mordovia at the receiving position of such a station, watched the Dutch pilots learn to fly on small sports planes," he said. https://leon-rumata.livejournal.com/731483.html

There are other types of reconnaissance,.. With the help of ballistic missiles reconnaissance satellites are launched, which exist from 30 to 50 days. Small satellites work on a certain zone in search of the enemy fleet. http://warsonline.info/siriia/novosti/rossiia/kinjal050818-2.html

Enhancements to the H-6K continue; in late August, an amateur photo of a “green” H-6 with in-flight refueling probe surfaced on Weibo, the Chinese version of Twitter. This could be the alleged H-6N that reportedly flew for the first time in December. Many believe the H-6N could host the air-launched DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile. The reworked airframe could have been modified and strengthened to accommodate the 11-meter missile and better shielded against radiation.
Analyst Wei Dongxu thinks inflight refueling capability will enable the PLAAF’s bombers to operate beyond the “First Island Chain” to the “Second Island Chain” with greater payload. The PLAAF has increased the number of H-6K flights into Japan’s and Taiwan’s Air Defense Identification Zones, in some cases with a composite force of Y-8 transport aircraft, Su-30 fighters and KJ-2000 airborne early warning aircraft.
XAC has also developed the H-6KH, an enhanced variant of the H-6K, which features two additional wing pylons for KG600/800 jamming pods. Satellite imagery of the XAC airfield in Yanliang, China, shows an H-6KH with unidentified pods on the new outerwing pylons. A model of the H-6KH also suggests the presence of a KD-63 series targeting and datalink pod mounted on the aft of bomb bay.
A small-scale test model of China’s next generation bomber, a flying wing unofficially dubbed the H-20, has been spotted by satellite at Gaobeidian, a radar cross-section test range near Beijing. China state media CCTV estimates the H-20 will have stealth features, a maximum takeoff weight of at least 200 tons and payload capacity of up to 45 tons.
The H-20 resembles the U.S. Air Force’s B-2 Spirit bomber and the Northrop Grumman X-47B unmanned combat air vehicle demonstrator. However, military analyst Wang Mingliang told CCTV that the H-20 cannot be compared with the B-2 as it will perform missions beyond strategic bombing, such as electronic warfare.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2017-08-29/china-modernizes-bomber-fleet-looks-future-h-20#

China is constructing its second overseas military base in Pakistan, at Jiwani on the Gulf of Oman, which is much closer to the Strait of Hormuz than Gwadar; the crow-flight distance between Jiwani and Chabahar port in Iran is just 35 kilometers,..
The Chinese troop presence at Jiwani and Gwadar in conjunction with the Pakistani ports of Pasni, Omara and Karachi (all connected by road to the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor) will not only provide control of the entire Pakistani coast to China, the continuum will carry on to Africa. With an existing airstrip, Jiwani, which is being showcased as joint China-Pakistan naval and airbase, could become China’s Eastern Indian Ocean Regional Command, with China’s Western Indian Ocean Regional Command at Djibouti. ..
During the visit by China’s defense minister at the time, Liang Guanglie, to Seychelles in 2011, Seychelles offered China a port to supply ships fighting piracy, which evoked a Chinese response that it would consider seeking supply facilities at appropriate harbors in Seychelles or other countries.
Island nations of the Indian Ocean have been in special focus of China. ..
Xi visited Maldives in September 2014, securing Maldivian support for China’s “21st-Century Maritime Silk Road.” ..there are reports Maldives was looking to let the Chinese build a port at Gaadhoo Island in the south of the archipelago in April 2016, where people had been moved out and Chinese were building roads. ..
..China is looking to establish a joint Ocean Observation Station at Makunudhoo, the westernmost atoll in the northern Maldives in proximity of India. There is speculation that the facility will have military applications with provision of even a military base.
Hambantota, Gaadhoo, Makunudhoo, Gwadar, Jiwani in conjunction Chinese port development activities in Bangladesh, Myanmar, Thailand and other parts of the IOR form a strategic matrix that indicates SCS 2.0 is under way. It should be of serious concern to the world.
http://www.atimes.com/chinas-base-in-sri-lanka-part-of-its-dominant-indian-ocean-presence/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=efaf39c8c8-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_08_06_01_46&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-efaf39c8c8-31607385

The L-15 features a streamlined aerodynamic design and integrated avionics, with a maximum speed of 1,200km/h as well as a maximum flight range of 2,600 kilometers. Its development was reportedly assisted by Russia’s Yakovlev Design Bureau and the jets are propelled by Ukrainian-made afterburning turbofan engines.
http://www.atimes.com/article/new-jet-trainers-to-prepare-pilots-for-plans-new-carrier/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=c471ae694f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_08_15_01_12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-c471ae694f-31607385

Sixth-century Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu wrote that “to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting.” Sun Tzu, skeptical about prolonged warfare, favored swift, decisive action; he preferred deception and psychological warfare to subduing an enemy by force.
Contemporary Chinese rulers sometimes breathe the same strategic air as their distinguished forebear. The Peoples’ Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has dispatched warships into the Taiwan Strait and conducted live-fire drills. On more than one occasion, its Xian H-6 bombers have circumnavigated Taiwan; in early summer, a Chinese destroyer and frigate repeated that circumnavigation by sea. And Beijing has not renounced the use of force to seize Taiwan.
A Chinese military analyst and TV personality told one of Beijing’s state-run media outlets that it is “legitimate” for China “to send strong signals like this,” and that it must be able to deal not only with Taiwan’s military but potential U.S. and Japanese intervention.
http://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/402286-Taiwan-is-key-to-US-power-in-Pacific

In December 2017, Beijing and Male signed a protocol to build a joint ocean observation station in Maldives, which China insists will not become a military base. But with the Chinese navy now present in the Indian Ocean, and a pro-Beijing man in power in Maldives, the Indians and other Indian Ocean powers are deeply concerned about the implications of recent developments. http://www.atimes.com/article/maldives-presidents-pro-china-stance-making-waves/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=c0878275d7-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_08_22_12_16&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-c0878275d7-31607385

Taking into account the development trends of the PLA Navy, it can be assumed that the 055 ships are considered in two main qualities - as the basis for an escort for prospective Chinese aircraft carriers, and also as the nucleus of independent strike groups operating in conjunction with an aircraft carrier connection or in isolation from it both in a peaceful way and in time of war. ..
Presumably, the PRC intends to build eight ships of the 055 project. Combined with 21 destroyers of projects 052B / C / D and a large fleet of frigates and corvettes that will eventually approach a hundred units, this will make it possible to form the largest naval fleet in Asia, second only to the US Navy. At the same time, given the global ambitions of the United States and the need to keep a significant part of the Navy in other regions of the world, China can get superiority in forces in its "own" theater - in the western part of the Pacific Ocean.
This superiority in case of any possible local conflict in the region will put the US before a choice - either to accept the very likely defeat of its allies, or to be drawn into a large-scale conflict fraught with a full-fledged war.
Among the immediate opponents of China in the Pacific Ocean, in addition to the United States, can be identified the Navy of Japan, South Korea and Australia. However, at present, the Chinese Navy is already surpassing the fleets of all three countries combined in terms of the number of ships, as well as in the variety and technical characteristics of weapons. And, in fact, without American support, these countries, possessing quite serious by the standards of the second echelon states by the armed forces, can not oppose anything to the Chinese naval potential.
In the Indian Ocean, the main contender of the PLA is the naval forces of India, and if 10 years ago, experts in the correspondence comparison unconditionally put the Indian fleet in first place in comparison with the Chinese, now the answer is profoundly unreasonable. China already surpasses India in the number of main class warships, and with the completion of the construction of destroyers of the 052D project, 052 cruisers and the second aircraft carrier will receive a significant qualitative superiority. The probability of a direct military conflict between India and China is not very high today, including thanks to the diplomatic steps of both countries towards each other, but it is clear that China's growing naval capabilities are seriously reinforcing Chinese diplomacy.
According to some experts, the People's Republic of China can move to the construction of even larger missile ships that are already in line with the Russian nuclear cruisers of Project 1144. In any case, given Beijing's thorough construction of the fleet and the consistent development of the projects of warships from simple to complex, this task seems quite solvable for the second half of the 2020s.
https://iz.ru/782763/ilia-kramnik/sdelano-v-kitae-pervyi-raketnyi-kreiser-vyshel-v-more

Add the Pakistan Navy on the side of PRC & it's easier to pity Indian admirals!