The Situation in the Ukraine. #26

PapaDragon wrote:

auslander wrote:Biden is in Kiev at this moment. Look for fighting to substantially increase this week before inauguration. Biden doesn't care how many die as long as it's another stick in Trump's eye.

All they can do now is to either increase shelling and accomplish nothing or actually go on the real offensive and get ripped to shreds. Same choice they had for more than a year, maybe two.

Every pig squeals before it is bled to death. Kiev is no different.

There will be some kind of provocation just to muck things up before Friday. Every time Biden shows up it's trouble.

If you are suffering insomnia, read this argument on the need... or not... of Ukraine having an ammo plant;

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2378513.html

franco wrote:If you are suffering insomnia, read this argument on the need... or not... of Ukraine having an ammo plant;

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2378513.html  

Ukraine recently bought via third party some amounts of ammunition in Serbia and Bosnia. PPU and Igman. Mostly NATO calibers.

Militarov wrote:

franco wrote:If you are suffering insomnia, read this argument on the need... or not... of Ukraine having an ammo plant;

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2378513.html  

Ukraine recently bought via third party some amounts of ammunition in Serbia and Bosnia. PPU and Igman. Mostly NATO calibers.

If Ukraine is purchasing NATO calibers is because the Russian calibers are exhausted in the countries to their West.

Militarov wrote:

franco wrote:If you are suffering insomnia, read this argument on the need... or not... of Ukraine having an ammo plant;

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2378513.html  

Ukraine recently bought via third party some amounts of ammunition in Serbia and Bosnia. PPU and Igman. Mostly NATO calibers.

Difficult to asses the necessity of these batches outside the NATO PFP program. Especially since Igman sold under 10 million US, With transport that's about 15 million rounds in 5,56.

The first presidential speech of the US president Trump was clear. US is broke and have no money and all their resources will be used in America and for America and not for others. US under Trump will leave Ukropistan on their own and will give them nothing.

Bad news for Porosenko and poor Ukropistan, which is poorer than the poorest african state.

You misunderstood his speech. Here's the link, transcript and vid. Enjoy. Porky is shitting bricks at this moment. On the other hand reports are heavy fighting around Donetsk. Where's Kepesh? Haven't seen him for a month.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/20/president-donald-j-trump-inaugural-address-video-and-transcript/

auslander wrote:You misunderstood his speech. Here's the link, transcript and vid. Enjoy. Porky is shitting bricks at this moment. On the other hand reports are heavy fighting around Donetsk. Where's Kepesh? Haven't seen him for a month.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/20/president-donald-j-trump-inaugural-address-video-and-transcript/

Reality sinking in in 404.

Also, knowing Khepesh, he is probably in Donetsk doing Thor's bidding on the down-low....

Good. I hope he kills a few for us. Here's a little something for you. Die Ukraine über alle!

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Militarov wrote:

franco wrote:If you are suffering insomnia, read this argument on the need... or not... of Ukraine having an ammo plant;

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2378513.html  

Ukraine recently bought via third party some amounts of ammunition in Serbia and Bosnia. PPU and Igman. Mostly NATO calibers.

Difficult to asses the necessity of these batches outside the NATO PFP program. Especially since Igman sold under 10 million US, With transport that's about 15 million rounds in 5,56.

Here in PPU they allegedly bought some amounts of .308 and .338 Lapua Magnum.

Interfax News 16:41 DPR reports 12 deaths of militiamen in Jan

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Militarov wrote:

franco wrote:If you are suffering insomnia, read this argument on the need... or not... of Ukraine having an ammo plant;

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2378513.html  

Ukraine recently bought via third party some amounts of ammunition in Serbia and Bosnia. PPU and Igman. Mostly NATO calibers.

Difficult to asses the necessity of these batches outside the NATO PFP program. Especially since Igman sold under 10 million US, With transport that's about 15 million rounds in 5,56.

Here in PPU they allegedly bought some amounts of .308 and .338 Lapua Magnum.

APR's getting some work obviously.

VSU advanced 500m. into neutral zone near LNR and took a height near Kadievka. Can't wait to hear how the breakaway republics are violating the ceasefire

If I were the LNR high command I'd bring out the artilley and start, merciless, pounding the hell out of them.

Neutrality wrote:VSU advanced 500m. into neutral zone near LNR and took a height near Kadievka. Can't wait to hear how the breakaway republics are violating the ceasefire

If I were the LNR high command I'd bring out the artilley and start, merciless, pounding the hell out of them.

Seconded. There are no babies that the Banderatards can hind behind on that hill.

But with the magic of modern MSM propaganda one never knows. They will stage some civilian deaths in a nonexistent village.

The good news today for those of you who have been following this for a while is that Victoria Nuland is now part of history. Her contract was not renewed by the incoming Trump administration. Probably one of the bigger losers in the election result.

She will no doubt move on to well rewarded employment elsewhere as she was a faithful servant of the Neocons. Many will hope she rots in hell as a result of her influence in destroying Ukraine.

JohninMK wrote:The good news today for those of you who have been following this for a while is that Victoria Nuland is now part of history. Her contract was not renewed by the incoming Trump administration. Probably one of the bigger losers in the election result.

She will no doubt move on to well rewarded employment elsewhere as she was a faithful servant of the Neocons. Many will hope she rots in hell as a result of her influence in destroying Ukraine.

Yup, heard it today. Good riddance and may she be first of many.

She was actually top pic for Secretary of State under Hilldog. Shudders...

JohninMK wrote:The good news today for those of you who have been following this for a while is that Victoria Nuland is now part of history. Her contract was not renewed by the incoming Trump administration. Probably one of the bigger losers in the election result.

She will no doubt move on to well rewarded employment elsewhere as she was a faithful servant of the Neocons. Many will hope she rots in hell as a result of her influence in destroying Ukraine.

Her and Samantha... what a pair and good riddance to both.

I rarely gloat over other's misfortunes but in this instance I would enjoy the rapture of listening to Meat Sack Nuland and Hillary Diane Rodham screaming on election night as the map dissolved in to a sea of red.

Kiev is having to come to terms with the effects of betting the house on a Hillary win on their relationship with Trump and it is not pretty. Almost certainly Trump is going to initiate an audit into what has happened to the money the US and perhaps the IMF have lent them over the past couple of years and that won't be pretty either.

Meanwhile the delusion in Kiev that Ukraine matters to anyone rolls on. Seemingly based on a Davos sideline meeting with polite Chinese we have this sand castle waiting for the tide.

This week, the Ukrainian government revealed that they are working on a policy document on Crimea's 'reintegration' into Ukraine, and would be discussing it with Kiev's partners abroad. Commenting on the plans, which in a bizarre twist may also involve China, political scientist Dmitri Zhuravlev said that they seem to be nothing but hot air.

On Thursday, Vadim Chernysh, the head of Ukraine's Ministry of Temporarily Occupied Territories, told the Ukrainskaya Pravda newspaper that the cabinet of ministers is preparing an action plan for Crimea's 'reintegration' into Ukraine. Chernysh stressed that this document "will be discussed with the public and with our international partners," and that Kiev would need about a month to develop it.

News of the draft document follows on intense Ukrainian political and media discussion about the possibility of China helping Kiev take Crimea back from Russia. Such discussions began last week, after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko met with Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the Davos economic forum. Xi told Poroshenko that China would like to "play a constructive role in promoting a political resolution to the crisis" in Ukraine, which Ukrainian officials and pundits took to mean that Beijing would help Ukraine gain control over the Donbass and perhaps even Crimea.

A few Russian officials soon responded to Kiev's lofty ambitions. On Thursday, Senator Alexei Pushkov tweeted that President Poroshenko "understands perfectly well that there will be no 'reintegration' of Crimea. This idea, and the odd appeal to the leader of China are needed for another reason: to create the myth that the subject is still relevant."

There is more of this at https://sputniknews.com/politics/201701281050105562-kiev-turns-to-beijing-on-crimea/

And in the evening January 27 tragic news came to Lugansk from Russia. Untimely death a man who was one of the founders of the Luhansk People's Republic, was one of the fathers of the young New Russia - Valery Bolotov. One of the early leaders of Novorossiya and the first President of LPR. He survived an assassination attempt but never fully recovered and died just shy of his 47th birthday. Strong proponent of the two People Republics unifying into one Novorossiya Republic.


https://topwar.ru/108127-proschanie-s-odnim-iz-otcov-yunoy-novorossii.html

JohninMK wrote:

Meanwhile the delusion in Kiev that Ukraine matters to anyone rolls on. Seemingly based on a Davos sideline meeting with polite Chines we have this sand castle waiting for the tide.

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John your posts are always culturally and spiritualy enriching.

PapaDragon wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

Meanwhile the delusion in Kiev that Ukraine matters to anyone rolls on. Seemingly based on a Davos sideline meeting with polite Chines we have this sand castle waiting for the tide.

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John your posts are always culturally and spiritualy enriching.

Thank you, from you it is a real compliment.

Do you know our story of King Canute?

JohninMK wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

Meanwhile the delusion in Kiev that Ukraine matters to anyone rolls on. Seemingly based on a Davos sideline meeting with polite Chines we have this sand castle waiting for the tide.

.....

John your posts are always culturally and spiritualy enriching.

Thank you, from you it is a real compliment.

Do you know our story of King Canute?

Can't say that I do. Lay it on me, I'm listening.

PapaDragon wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

Meanwhile the delusion in Kiev that Ukraine matters to anyone rolls on. Seemingly based on a Davos sideline meeting with polite Chines we have this sand castle waiting for the tide.

.....

John your posts are always culturally and spiritualy enriching.

Thank you, from you it is a real compliment.

Do you know our story of King Canute?

Can't say that I do. Lay it on me, I'm listening.

He was a King back in the 900s, from his name, the Anglicised Knut, I assume he was of Viking extraction. Much like Poroshenko, he had a very strong belief in himself and his powers. Whereas Poro thinks that he can get the Chinese to do something to piss off a friend in a location they have no interest in, Canute decided that he could halt the tide. The story goes that he had his throne positioned on a beach where he ordered the sea to stop coming in. It didn't of course and he must have looked a bit of a fool.

But it did make him immortal, as most Brits know of him but don't have a clue about other Kings for 100s of years either side of him. Poro has as much chance with the Chinese but his efforts on this and other things are more likely to see him disappear from and not remain in history.