Russia - Indonesia arms contracts

miketheterrible wrote:Then Russia should retaliate by placing any trade sanctions on Indonesia.

Russia did not receive notification from Indonesia on Su-35 fighters


Indonesia has not yet notified Russia about the cancellation of the contract for the supply of the country's air force to 11 Russian Su-35 fighters. It is reported by RIA Novosti with reference to an informed source.

According to the source, Russia did not receive any notifications from the Indonesian side about the termination of the contract for the supply of Russian fighters.

There have been no notifications about this yet.

- the agency quotes the source.

On the eve of Bloomberg agency reported on the alleged decision by the Indonesian authorities to terminate the contract concluded in 2018 with Russia for the supply of 11 Russian Su-35 fighters in the amount of about 1.1 billion dollars. As explained in Bloomberg, information about this was obtained from a source familiar with the situation. The reason for the refusal was called US pressure on Jakarta with the threat of imposing sanctions.

Meanwhile, the Russian Ministry of Defense informs that Russia and Indonesia have discussed the dates and venue of the Russian-Indonesian naval exercises Orruda 2020. Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that relations between Russia and Indonesia in the military sphere and in the military-technical cooperation could reach a new level, the parties could sign a strategic partnership agreement.

It should be noted that Indonesia has been purchasing Russian weapons for several years. Since 1992, Jakarta has received Su-27 and Su-30MK2 fighters and aviation weapons for them, Mi-17V-5, Mi-35P helicopters, BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles, BTR-80 armored personnel carriers, "hundredth" series Kalashnikov assault rifles . In April last year, a contract was signed for the supply of a batch of BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles and BT-3F armored personnel carriers.

https://topwar.ru/168960-rossija-ne-poluchala-uvedomlenija-ot-indonezii-po-istrebiteljam-su-35.html

miketheterrible wrote:I rethought my process after the news.  Let us think it is cancelled.  Best Russia SHOULD do isn't harm Indonesian relations but improve it.  It would work in Russia's interest to increase trade with Indonesia greatly.  Russia should reach agreements to invest in Indonesian business like agriculture - Cocoa, Rubber, etc.  These are things that is in demand in Russia and why not get Russian businesses involved?  Then look to build nuclear power plants and other energy companies.  Lukoil with gas stations and refineries.

Once Indonesia gains a huge amount of investment money and trade deals with Russia, then they will be less likely to be interested in pissing Russia off.

crod wrote:I’ve seen it reported that Indonesia cancelled its SU-35 purchase because of US pressure (sanctions and trade tariffs).
Reports also suggest that they scrapped Chinese purchases for the same reasons.
Are these reports accurate?

George1 wrote:See Post n°126.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Then Russia should retaliate by placing any trade sanctions on Indonesia.

The cancellation hasn't been confirmed, it could potentially be fake news.

Russia did not receive notification from Indonesia on Su-35 fighters


Indonesia has not yet notified Russia about the cancellation of the contract for the supply of the country's air force to 11 Russian Su-35 fighters. It is reported by RIA Novosti with reference to an informed source.

According to the source, Russia did not receive any notifications from the Indonesian side about the termination of the contract for the supply of Russian fighters.

There have been no notifications about this yet.

- the agency quotes the source.

On the eve of Bloomberg agency reported on the alleged decision by the Indonesian authorities to terminate the contract concluded in 2018 with Russia for the supply of 11 Russian Su-35 fighters in the amount of about 1.1 billion dollars. As explained in Bloomberg, information about this was obtained from a source familiar with the situation. The reason for the refusal was called US pressure on Jakarta with the threat of imposing sanctions.

Meanwhile, the Russian Ministry of Defense informs that Russia and Indonesia have discussed the dates and venue of the Russian-Indonesian naval exercises Orruda 2020. Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that relations between Russia and Indonesia in the military sphere and in the military-technical cooperation could reach a new level, the parties could sign a strategic partnership agreement.

It should be noted that Indonesia has been purchasing Russian weapons for several years. Since 1992, Jakarta has received Su-27 and Su-30MK2 fighters and aviation weapons for them, Mi-17V-5, Mi-35P helicopters, BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles, BTR-80 armored personnel carriers, "hundredth" series Kalashnikov assault rifles . In April last year, a contract was signed for the supply of a batch of BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles and BT-3F armored personnel carriers.

https://topwar.ru/168960-rossija-ne-poluchala-uvedomlenija-ot-indonezii-po-istrebiteljam-su-35.html

Isos wrote:CAATSA can be very well used by Indonesia to oblige Sukhoi to reduce the price.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Then Russia should retaliate by placing any trade sanctions on Indonesia.

The cancellation hasn't been confirmed, it could potentially be fake news.

Russia did not receive notification from Indonesia on Su-35 fighters


Indonesia has not yet notified Russia about the cancellation of the contract for the supply of the country's air force to 11 Russian Su-35 fighters. It is reported by RIA Novosti with reference to an informed source.

According to the source, Russia did not receive any notifications from the Indonesian side about the termination of the contract for the supply of Russian fighters.

There have been no notifications about this yet.

- the agency quotes the source.

On the eve of Bloomberg agency reported on the alleged decision by the Indonesian authorities to terminate the contract concluded in 2018 with Russia for the supply of 11 Russian Su-35 fighters in the amount of about 1.1 billion dollars. As explained in Bloomberg, information about this was obtained from a source familiar with the situation. The reason for the refusal was called US pressure on Jakarta with the threat of imposing sanctions.

Meanwhile, the Russian Ministry of Defense informs that Russia and Indonesia have discussed the dates and venue of the Russian-Indonesian naval exercises Orruda 2020. Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that relations between Russia and Indonesia in the military sphere and in the military-technical cooperation could reach a new level, the parties could sign a strategic partnership agreement.

It should be noted that Indonesia has been purchasing Russian weapons for several years. Since 1992, Jakarta has received Su-27 and Su-30MK2 fighters and aviation weapons for them, Mi-17V-5, Mi-35P helicopters, BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles, BTR-80 armored personnel carriers, "hundredth" series Kalashnikov assault rifles . In April last year, a contract was signed for the supply of a batch of BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles and BT-3F armored personnel carriers.

https://topwar.ru/168960-rossija-ne-poluchala-uvedomlenija-ot-indonezii-po-istrebiteljam-su-35.html

Just like I predicted, it was fake news. The contract negotiations have been resumed, and likely will be implemented in the future.

Military Review  news Indonesia plans to discuss a contract for Russian Su-35 fighters

Just like I predicted, it was fake news. The contract negotiations have been resumed, and likely will be implemented in the future.

GarryB wrote:Zhirinovsky is a nutter... Russia really would not benefit from testing nukes.

The US has power over small countries because they tend to be dependent on the US and access to international markets via the US.

The best way for Russia to deal with this is to offer to take the place of the US and support those small countries and offer deals on better terms... the small countries will probably benefit more from good relations with Russia than normal (bad) relations with the US...