Russia - Indonesia arms contracts

mnztr wrote:Many of the South East Asian nations are trying to counter Chinese domination, an allaince with Russia does not really offer that. So I can understand why Indonesia wants to get closer to the USA, in addition of the other benefits.

The problem of the approach is that it is not Indonesia that is going to use the US as a ram against China, but the other way around...

I'd rather not have any more fking palm oil.

90% of our cheese makers already use it as a filler to make cheese and as a result 90% of cheese tastes like s***
And the 10% is too expensive for most people. Not enough economy of scale

I wrote the above before actually looking at the article. Yep, sure enough, they plan to supply us with palm oil.

Anyway as I understood the delay for the contract was due to the US's CASTA sanctions. Maybe this local products stuff is just an excuse.
If it isn't, then I'm fine with the idea, wouldn't be the first time Russia has accepted such and not even the first time recently.

Poland sold PT-91M tanks to Malesia and received part of the payment in palm oil. Nothing wrong with that.

ALAMO wrote:Poland sold PT-91M tanks to Malesia and received part of the payment in palm oil. Nothing wrong with that.

Guns for palm oil

You try selling that pitch to the United States

mnztr wrote:Indonesia has a shitload of products, coal, seafood, rice, palm oil, all which could be easily resold by Russia or purchased by Russian consumers. The great thing about it is it would also establish trade links between Russia and Indonesia which is a trillion $ economy and a member of ASEAN.

Trillion dollar economy that could only afford to pay in joke oil. What a shithole. Speaking as an expert witness of course.

I think it might be related to the sanctions though

Some way to avoid it. At least I remember reading about how Russia was offering alternate payment methods and so on.

PapaDragon wrote:
They should take something more useful than palm oil

How is that trash still allowed for human consumption?

This bias is politically driven and motivated only.
It is the most consumed fat on Earth, mainly due to its very low production cost.
You can get a 4t of palm oil from 1ha of land, while the second in line, raps oil, makes 0.7-0.9t.
So of course it will have a bad reputation, but it is attached to the food with added fats. All of them.
As palm oil replaced animal fats in food production in the 90s only, and that was combined with an overall campaign against added fats, and general health issues - all the shit glued to it.
The other issue is the fact, that it is produced in poor countries, so there is a lot of space for "environmental activists" and all that fags.
Palm oil is used in much more things, including cosmetic business and industry.
It is massively used as fuel, fertilizers are made of it, too. Replaces other - more costly - fats in worldwide soap production.
Any country's business needs it to apply for daily operations.
They will reduce the middlemen.
I see no issue here.

Guess Moscow said no to more palm oil

They are being real dumb. They already forgot why they had to buy Flankers in the first place.