Talking bollocks thread #2

Aristide wrote:

GarryB wrote:So which is it.... in one breath you are ethnically diverse product of a melting pot and in the other you are the master race...

The european stock is the best of all, simply because our heritage.

Aristide wrote:

George1 wrote:i sent Arirtide 5 days vacation, but if he continues with BS it will be the longest vacation he ever had

For what reason do you allow insults against France but cant stand counter heat?

Thats not very sovereign from you.

Aristide wrote:Its funny. Few days ago some here laughed about France because we dont deliver airbus aircrafts to Iran, which needs new aircrafts desperatly.

As it was not entirely clear for Iran if France would deliver Airbus or not...Iran insulted iranian aircrafts multiple times.

Iran Air said again and again Sukhoi is not good enough for Iran Air

https://financialtribune.com/articles/economy-domestic-economy/90307/senior-official-no-sukhoi-for-iran-air

Now that Airbus does not deliver, Iran Air asked for Sukhoi Superjets and Russia was bocked from delivery. Because more than 10% of the Sukhoi Superjet are produced in USA, they fall
under the same sanctions as Airbus does and dont deliver:

https://en.trend.az/iran/3001151.html

"Iran Air Tours, an Iranian airline, has recently signed an MOU to purchase 20 Sukhoi aircraft and another Iranian airline has drafted a lease agreement for three aircraft from the Russian company.

However, despite the promise of the Russian company to replace the US-made parts with the Russian ones, it seems due to the failure to get a license from OFAC the contracts have been canceled.

“Negotiations were held between Sukhoi Company and some Iranian airlines. They are ready to sign a memorandum of understanding and prepare to use the Sukhoi aircraft in Iran, either rent or purchase them,” Secretary of Iran's Aviation Companies Association Maghsoud Asadi Samani told Trend referring to the possibility of buying Sukhoi Superjet 100 from Russia.

Referring to the US sanctions on Iran’s aviation, he says the only problem now is that the aircraft parts that Sukhoi produces is more than 10 percent American, so the licenses of the US Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) are required for sale of the aircraft to Iran."

GarryB wrote:So they will have to buy planes with no American parts... perhaps Tupolevs or Chinese planes.

Amusing you seem to have such a chip on your shoulder... the problem is not Airbus, or Sukhoi... it is the US... and also partly Iran... can they not read an article on the internet and find aircraft that don't have American parts in their design?

Or do they think if they sign a contract all the American parts will magically disappear...

It is in Russias interests to have aircraft and products that do not have American components or ownership simply because a lot of their clients either can't buy or don't want to buy products with American components.

Most of those countries don't have a lot of money so I understand why Airbus doesn't give a rats ass...

Aristide wrote:

GarryB wrote:So they will have to buy planes with no American parts... perhaps Tupolevs or Chinese planes.

Amusing you seem to have such a chip on your shoulder... the problem is not Airbus, or Sukhoi... it is the US... and also partly Iran... can they not read an article on the internet and find aircraft that don't have American parts in their design?

Or do they think if they sign a contract all the American parts will magically disappear...

It is in Russias interests to have aircraft and products that do not have American components or ownership simply because a lot of their clients either can't buy or don't want to buy products with American components.

Most of those countries don't have a lot of money so I understand why Airbus doesn't give a rats ass...

That aside, and also your hate against France...

Dont you find Irans behavior ridicolous? Even when the deal with Airbus started to crumble, they did reject russian airplanes as garbage and trash and said they have zero interest in russian aircrafts.

The quality of russian aircrafts aside...that appears rather idiotic for me.

I dont see Iran in the position to act that pompous. Even more so, that they then suddenly say Sukhoi is good, when the Airbus deal busted.

Aristide wrote:

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

Aristide wrote:

GarryB wrote:So they will have to buy planes with no American parts... perhaps Tupolevs or Chinese planes.

Amusing you seem to have such a chip on your shoulder... the problem is not Airbus, or Sukhoi... it is the US... and also partly Iran... can they not read an article on the internet and find aircraft that don't have American parts in their design?

Or do they think if they sign a contract all the American parts will magically disappear...

It is in Russias interests to have aircraft and products that do not have American components or ownership simply because a lot of their clients either can't buy or don't want to buy products with American components.

Most of those countries don't have a lot of money so I understand why Airbus doesn't give a rats ass...

That aside, and also your hate against France...

Dont you find Irans behavior ridicolous? Even when the deal with Airbus started to crumble, they did reject russian airplanes as garbage and trash and said they have zero interest in russian aircrafts.

The quality of russian aircrafts aside...that appears rather idiotic for me.

I dont see Iran in the position to act that pompous. Even more so, that they then suddenly say Sukhoi is good, when the Airbus deal busted.

it is possible that, at that time they were promised the possibility to use the money that the old government of the iranian Shah had in western banks before 1979, but only to buy western aircraft.

ha ha ha those few cents?

NEW YORK -- The shah of Iran had about $7.2 billion in assets, of which approximately $4 billion has been traced, the MidEast Report said Wednesday.

The Iranian government Tuesday filed a $36 billion lawsuit in New York against 65 defendants, most of them relatives of the late Shah, in an attempt to recover his wealth.


The New York-based newsletter, quoting Iranian government sources, said the late Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi transferred billions of dollars out of Iran beginning in 1974, partly in the form of loans to members of his family that were never repaid.

David Mizrahi, editor of the MidEast Report, said the Iranian sources indicated that Atisaz Corp., a construction company 97 percent owned by Mohammed Behbehanian, the late Shah's treasurer who is currently in hiding, was used to transfer funds.

Mizrahi said Atisaz transferred at least $15 million to personal Pahlavi accounts through Bank Omran, through a bank in Milwaukee and the New York branch of a Swiss bank.

Mizrahi said Benbehanian was presumably fronting for the shah.

The newsletter said some of these funds were used to purchase real estate in New York, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston and Oklahoma City.

Some of the transfers from Iran were made through U.S. corporations and banks as well as some New York investment houses, Mizrahi said.

In addition to Behbehanian, MidEast report identified the principal Iranian operatives for the Shah as: Abolfath Mahvi, currently living in Monte Carlo, who was involved in the purchase of computers, aircraft, nuclear reactors and other high-technology equipment; Dr. Houshang Ram, chairman of Bank Omran, presently in jail in Tehran; Jaafa Sharif Emami, former chairman of the Pahlavi Foundation and former prime minister of Iran; Hushang Ansari, former finance minister who has a home in New York; and Cyrus Ansari, his brother, who has a law and investment office in Washington.



Read more: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/01/14/The-shah-of-Iran-had-about-72-billion-in/6085348296400/#ixzz5bkow7KO9