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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #1

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:54 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Well, I hope no one got hurt from the grad fire, no Russians or Syrians injured, and hopefully a counter attack will happen immediately.  That is, if the news is true.

    Seems they hit one big nothing, flat land.

    lol. Either they were using as a scare tactic, or they really suck as shit for aim. Still, counter attack them and they will get even more scare. Smile
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    Post  Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:57 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Well, I hope no one got hurt from the grad fire, no Russians or Syrians injured, and hopefully a counter attack will happen immediately.  That is, if the news is true.

    Seems they hit one big nothing, flat land.

    lol.  Either they were using as a scare tactic, or they really suck as shit for aim.  Still, counter attack them and they will get even more scare. Smile

    Some guy claims total 49 GRAD rockets were launched aganist airbase, and some legit guys took this source, i dont know this guy so take it with big portion of reserve. For now seems they didnt hit a thing.

    https://twitter.com/kalednoor2/status/650010857930403841
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:58 pm

    Militarov wrote:
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    Militarov wrote:Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #1 - Page 37 Media?size=l

    Well, still looks better than my meals in the army to be honest.

    The ageless buckwheat porridge with meat, a Russian military, and civilian, staple for centuries, some cucumbers for green, soup with spuds. Missing is the bread, another staple, but all and all good belly timber. Not gourmet but soldiers don't need that.

    Hmm. Clean hands and nails, married, silver wedding band on the usual right hand, high water mark on the shirt. And smiling.

    I would beg to differ on the "gourmet" thing. Sometimes a good tasty meal can bring up morals of soldiers more than anything in the field and to be honest never liked buckwheat porridge, tastes almost like nothing but of course among the easiest and most nutrious ways to provide meal without much costs or overall resources weighting on logistics.

    Want to hear my "casual" meal in the army?

    Breakfasts:

    - bread (from yesterday, so we eat less of it, also its true 24h old bread is healthier but... its not that nice) or some hard thing they call bisquit from field ration (they would open soon to expire rations and serve them for breakfast very often taking out pate, tea, bisquits, cheese etc).
    - liver pate or melted cheese from sheep milk (we suspect its sheep at least, maybe dragon too), margarine and jam both from field rations and impossible to spread on bread
    - Hot dogs (actually we belive actual dogs were used), salami or boiled eggs
    - jogurt from plastic package, tea (with some weird ironish taste to it)

    Exceptions did exist but this is somewhat of a standard rotation.

    Lunch:

    - Cabbage with meat - Russians, anyone?
    - Beans with meat (belive it or not, probably best meals i ever had, both in barracks and the field from field kitchen)
    - Green beans with meat - What about no...
    - Moussaka - sounds good right? Well it wasnt...
    - Drnč - impossible to translate, it slang for certain type of stew made of potato, meat, carrots etc (basically whatever was leftover from two previous meals, no jokes) wasnt that bad actually but soldiers called it Drnč after special detergent that was used to clean rifles
    - Riži-biži - basically peas, rice and spices with some meat

    Dinner:

    Was mix of lunch and breakfast leftovers i guess, depending how lucky you are. Sometimes it would be something else but meh. Often we would get sardine, if there wasnt any onion i would just go to sleep, i cant eat that crap without onions Very Happy

    I understand its all about being nutritious and easy to transport-prepare, but i was enjoying so much when we get in field beans with alot of smoked meat or sausage and cabbage salad...brings good mood and life into you.

    Oh man! You triggered several flashbacks with that list! lol1

    Do not forget milk waffles AKA ''Styrofoam'' Cool

    My favourite meal was canned beans and ham from SDO (dry meal package). I ate them cold, just skim the fat on top and dig in. russia

    Oh, almost forgot, honey&coffee combo in small packs, I would burn trough them like crazy during guard/patrol duty love


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    Post  Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:01 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Well, I hope no one got hurt from the grad fire, no Russians or Syrians injured, and hopefully a counter attack will happen immediately.  That is, if the news is true.

    Seems they hit one big nothing, flat land.

    "On Friday afternoon, the Syrian Al-Qaeda group “Jabhat Al-Nusra” and their allies from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) attempted to retaliate against the Russian Air Force after the latter destroyed their hideouts inside the town of Deir Hanna in the Latakia Governorate’s northeastern countryside. However, the four grad rockets they fired towards the Bassel Al-Assad International Airport in the Jableh District fell short of their target; this prompted the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) to launch a flurry of mortar shells and rockets into Deir Hanna before the Syrian Air Force topped off the Al-Qaeda militants with a powerful series of airstrikes in the aforementioned town."

    Yeeep, as i thought, rockets fell short.

    Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/islamist-rebels-attempt-to-strike-the-russian-air-force-in-jableh/
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    Post  Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:05 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Well, still looks better than my meals in the army to be honest.

    The ageless buckwheat porridge with meat, a Russian military, and civilian, staple for centuries, some cucumbers for green, soup with spuds. Missing is the bread, another staple, but all and all good belly timber. Not gourmet but soldiers don't need that.

    Hmm. Clean hands and nails, married, silver wedding band on the usual right hand, high water mark on the shirt. And smiling.

    I would beg to differ on the "gourmet" thing. Sometimes a good tasty meal can bring up morals of soldiers more than anything in the field and to be honest never liked buckwheat porridge, tastes almost like nothing but of course among the easiest and most nutrious ways to provide meal without much costs or overall resources weighting on logistics.

    Want to hear my "casual" meal in the army?

    Breakfasts:

    - bread (from yesterday, so we eat less of it, also its true 24h old bread is healthier but... its not that nice) or some hard thing they call bisquit from field ration (they would open soon to expire rations and serve them for breakfast very often taking out pate, tea, bisquits, cheese etc).
    - liver pate or melted cheese from sheep milk (we suspect its sheep at least, maybe dragon too), margarine and jam both from field rations and impossible to spread on bread
    - Hot dogs (actually we belive actual dogs were used), salami or boiled eggs
    - jogurt from plastic package, tea (with some weird ironish taste to it)

    Exceptions did exist but this is somewhat of a standard rotation.

    Lunch:

    - Cabbage with meat - Russians, anyone?
    - Beans with meat (belive it or not, probably best meals i ever had, both in barracks and the field from field kitchen)
    - Green beans with meat - What about no...
    - Moussaka - sounds good right? Well it wasnt...
    - Drnč - impossible to translate, it slang for certain type of stew made of potato, meat, carrots etc (basically whatever was leftover from two previous meals, no jokes) wasnt that bad actually but soldiers called it Drnč after special detergent that was used to clean rifles
    - Riži-biži - basically peas, rice and spices with some meat

    Dinner:

    Was mix of lunch and breakfast leftovers i guess, depending how lucky you are. Sometimes it would be something else but meh. Often we would get sardine, if there wasnt any onion i would just go to sleep, i cant eat that crap without onions Very Happy

    I understand its all about being nutritious and easy to transport-prepare, but i was enjoying so much when we get in field beans with alot of smoked meat or sausage and cabbage salad...brings good mood and life into you.

    Oh man! You triggered several flashbacks with that list! lol1

    Do not forget milk waffles AKA ''Styrofoam'' Cool

    My favourite meal was canned beans and ham from SDO (dry meal package). I ate them cold, just skim the fat on top and dig in. russia

    Yeah sadly i rememeber it. Or "brick", that thing for breakfast made out of grounded bisquits and unknown stuff that would get served with milk or yogurt. Or baked macaroni and cheese. And to be honest field rations (SDUs) were often better than actual barracks meal, i would enjoy fridays (SDU day).
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:05 pm

    And then the SAA launched the counter offensive?

    Damn, the SAA are total bro's.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:06 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Well, I hope no one got hurt from the grad fire, no Russians or Syrians injured, and hopefully a counter attack will happen immediately.  That is, if the news is true.

    Seems they hit one big nothing, flat land.

    "On Friday afternoon, the Syrian Al-Qaeda group “Jabhat Al-Nusra” and their allies from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) attempted to retaliate against the Russian Air Force after the latter destroyed their hideouts inside the town of Deir Hanna in the Latakia Governorate’s northeastern countryside. However, the four grad rockets they fired towards the Bassel Al-Assad International Airport in the Jableh District fell short of their target; this prompted the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) to launch a flurry of mortar shells and rockets into Deir Hanna before the Syrian Air Force topped off the Al-Qaeda militants with a powerful series of airstrikes in the aforementioned town."

    Yeeep, as i thought, rockets fell short.

    Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/islamist-rebels-attempt-to-strike-the-russian-air-force-in-jableh/

    LOL I hope those IS-SHAM pork-sword swallowers got their daily dose of hellfire and brimstone! thumbsup
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:07 pm

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151002/1027939931/russia-lebanese-army-isil.html

    Looks like Russia is going to arm Lebanon to really fight ISIL. Good on them.
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:20 pm

    Well the food in Bundeswehr is similiar, breakfast you get almost the same stuff you got, but we have this spongy, very dry and untasty rye bread that was sometimes so rough that you would hurt your tongue because it was sometimes like sandpaper.

    Most stuff for breakfast was also prepacked stuff from rations or better to say the cheap and poor version of ration packs.
    Hardboiled eggs, some times if you were lucky they got some fresh buns, otherwise you had to be carefully about the buns, often hard and dried could be used for selfdefense and only consumable when you had soup to hydrate them.
    Liver paste, sausages or slices of days old beef from lunch for your rye bread or buns.

    Lunch: Was various, but the best food was that they did not make themselfs, but canned Lentil soup with Wiener sausage pieces. The only time the food was absolutley great was for a ceremony for the celebration of the units 50th birthday where we had the chance to eat Wild deer gulash with a half peach and cranberry sauce, with Knedl and red cabbage, which is usually a very german dish and tastes like heaven.

    Other than that unique experience you get served in the field the most repulsive food i have been offered. A chicken stew, a stew that has no consistency, alledgly it has chicken, carrots, mushrooms, potatoes and other stuff in it, but everything was cut to small slizes or squares, cooked to long so it lost its consistence to something that all tastes the same with a consistency like spongy, slimy slices that have all the same flavor so you have no idea what you are eating at the moment all tastes like it was drowned in Maggi fix and cooked for hours. It felt like you had snails in your mouth, so it was really hard to consume, so you had to use the typical german bundeswehr rye bread, dry, sandy and tastes always old to counter this feeling of eating slimy snails.

    Dinner was the same, left overs from Breakfast and Dinner, no warm food, just lunch in cold and usually dried, barely warm food, most of the time just Pasta. The german field rations are surprisingly good compared with the food they cook in canteen.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:42 pm

    ''Russia Gets Real, Pentagon Freaks Out, Jihadis Head for Germany

    “Most of the Jihadis … are frantically shaving off their terrorist beards and heading for Turkey and 'safe
    passage' to Germany”


    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/russia-gets-real-pentagon-freaks-out-jihadis-head-germany/ri10132

    Suck it eurotrash Razz
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    Post  Solncepek Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:46 pm

    Вот это новость так новость. Сегодня вечером стали появляться комментарии в арабской блогосфере, что лидер Джейш аль-Ислам (известно в России, как Армия Ислама) Захран Аллуш был ликвидирован вместе с рядом главарей ИГИЛ в их бункере в районе Мааррет-Эн-Нууман, провинция Идлиб.

    Официальных заявлений о том, что лидер Джейш аль-Ислам Захран Аллуш устранен не поступало. Есть вероятность, что группировка еще даже сама не в курсе этого. Хотя с другой стороны резко обострившаяся риторика Саудитов говорит о том, что РФ сильно мешает группировке.
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:51 pm

    Solncepek wrote:Вот это новость так новость. Сегодня вечером стали появляться комментарии в арабской блогосфере, что лидер Джейш аль-Ислам (известно в России, как Армия Ислама) Захран Аллуш был ликвидирован вместе с рядом главарей ИГИЛ в их бункере в районе Мааррет-Эн-Нууман, провинция Идлиб.

    Официальных заявлений о том, что лидер Джейш аль-Ислам Захран Аллуш устранен не поступало. Есть вероятность, что группировка еще даже сама не в курсе этого. Хотя с другой стороны резко обострившаяся риторика Саудитов говорит о том, что РФ сильно мешает группировке.

    I appreciate that you are posting the news, especially when it comes to the killing of a terrorist leader, but please, post in English.
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    Post  Solncepek Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:55 pm

    Sorry , but i have no good translator...
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    Post  ult Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:56 pm

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:58 pm

    Solncepek wrote:Sorry , but i have no good translator...

    Yandex Translate works well enough. The translations are still sketchy, but enough for us to understand.
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    Post  Guest Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:59 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Well the food in Bundeswehr is similiar, breakfast you get almost the same stuff you got, but we have this spongy, very dry and untasty rye bread that was sometimes so rough that you would hurt your tongue because it was sometimes like sandpaper.

    Most stuff for breakfast was also prepacked stuff from rations or better to say the cheap and poor version of ration packs.
    Hardboiled eggs, some times if you were lucky they got some fresh buns, otherwise you had to be carefully about the buns, often hard and dried could be used for selfdefense and only consumable when you had soup to hydrate them.
    Liver paste, sausages or slices of days old beef from lunch for your rye bread or buns.

    Lunch: Was various, but the best food was that they did not make themselfs, but canned Lentil soup with Wiener sausage pieces. The only time the food was absolutley great was for a ceremony for the celebration of the units 50th birthday where we had the chance to eat Wild deer gulash with a half peach and cranberry sauce, with Knedl and red cabbage, which is usually a very german dish and tastes like heaven.

    Other than that unique experience you get served in the field the most repulsive food i have been offered. A chicken stew, a stew that has no consistency, alledgly it has chicken, carrots, mushrooms, potatoes and other stuff in it, but everything was cut to small slizes or squares, cooked to long so it lost its consistence to something that all tastes the same with a consistency like spongy, slimy slices that have all the same flavor so you have no idea what you are eating at the moment all tastes like it was drowned in Maggi fix and cooked for hours. It felt like you had snails in your mouth, so it was really hard to consume, so you had to use the typical german bundeswehr rye bread, dry, sandy and tastes always old to counter this feeling of eating slimy snails.

    Dinner was the same, left overs from Breakfast and Dinner, no warm food, just lunch in cold and usually dried, barely warm food, most of the time just Pasta. The german field rations are surprisingly good compared with the food they cook in canteen.

    We share the pain. Our field kitchens were good tho, decent amounts of fresh meat, stew and salads as long as we are not too far from any city.
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    Post  Project Canada Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:01 pm

    U.S., allies demand Russia halt Syria strikes outside IS areas

    Can USIS pressure Russia to submit to their demands??
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:03 pm

    Project Canada wrote:U.S., allies demand Russia halt Syria strikes outside IS areas

    Can USIS pressure Russia to submit to their demands??

    No.

    Russia was invited by Syria and not EU, US or Turkey.  So it isn't their concern or problem. And unless they decide to try and attack Russia outright, which is suicide, they cant do jack but complain about it.
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    Post  ult Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:10 pm

    Syrian soldier borrowed Russian equipment to take a photo. 6B43, 6B47, Ak-74, GP-30.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:16 pm

    ult wrote:Syrian soldier borrowed Russian equipment to take a photo. 6B43, 6B47, Ak-74, GP-30.

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    Russian solider allowed him to borrow his equipment? What a Polite Man. Wink
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    Post  ult Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:20 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Russian solider allowed him to borrow his equipment? What a Polite Man. Wink

    Yeah, on a serious note I think Russia should send a couple thousand body armors and helmets to Syrians, at least to the Syrian soldiers who are protecting the airport. Cause those poor guys have none.
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:35 pm

    ult wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Russian solider allowed him to borrow his equipment? What a Polite Man. Wink

    Yeah, on a serious note I think Russia should send a couple thousand body armors and helmets to Syrians, at least to the Syrian soldiers who are protecting the airport. Cause those poor guys have none.

    Agreed. There should be plenty of body armor and helmets in surplus I imagine. 6B23's and possibly helmets from maybe fort.ru but I have not seen that site operating for sometime.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:37 pm

    Here's more information about KAB-500S-E, for people who are interested:

    Precision wages

    In response to modern threats and challenges, the Russian military-political leadership has repeatedly stated its readiness to deliver preventive strikes on terrorist bases and camps in any part of the globe. This, in particular, after the tragic events in Beslan, said Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov and Chief of General Staff Yuri Baluyevsky. However, analysis of the military-technical aspect of the problem has always rested on the lack of an arsenal of high-precision weapons in the conventional equipment. For example, in the arsenal of weapons at the disposal of Russian Air Force, until recently there was no analogues American guided air bombs JDAM (Joint Direct Attack Munition), the corrected data for the global navigation satellite systems "Navstar". Thanks to the efforts made by the Russian Defense Ministry and the enterprises of the military-industrial complex, managed to intensify the work being done in this direction. At the final stage are the tests of a new domestic air bombs KAB-500S-E, which will enable a whole new level, at any time and in any weather conditions to solve the problems of defeat the purpose of a broad class.
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    THEY ...

    For the first time managed JDAM bombs were used by US Air Force in 1999, during the hostilities against Yugoslavia (Operation "Allied Force"). They were armed with the latest subtle strategic bombers B-2A "Spirit", each of which carried a 12-caliber bombs of 2,000 pounds. Bombing was carried out at high altitudes (up to 12 km) on the most important objects of military and civilian infrastructure, which required increased accuracy defeat. Using the JDAM in the Balkans was then a kind of military-technical sensation, because officially the bombs of this type were to go into service only in 2000. The first experience of combat use JDAM was considered a success, and the US Air Force began en masse to re-equip the entire fleet of combat aircraft on a new type of ammunition. The results were not long in coming. According to military expert Major General Alexei Bogatyrev ("Aerospace Defense", №4, 2004), in "Operation Iraqi Freedom" series JDAM UAB consumption exceeded 6,500, and they were applied on the first day of fighting aircraft the F-117.

    It should be noted that the American program completion unguided bombs (Mk81, Mk82, Mk83, Mk84, BLU-109, BLU-110, BLU-113, BLU-116) in UAB JDAM is relatively inexpensive and quite simple from a technical point of view. On unguided bombs set universal control unit, the main components of which are the inertial control system, coupled with the receiving equipment of satellite navigation systems "Navstar", and control airfoils. There is evidence that to increase range bombing and destruction of targets located on large angular deviation from the course of the media, are working on the equipment module ASD JDAM-ER, comprising a wing and provides mechanisms. The lead contractor on the program JDAM is a firm "Boeing".

    ... And we

    first mass-dimensional layout of the Russian aviation corrected bombs KAB-500S-E has been shown to the public in 2003 during the International Air Show MAKS. The demonstration was accompanied by minimal performance characteristics. Subsequently, the material on this ASD with some technical details were included in the book "Weapons of Russia 2004" and the 10th volume of "Arms and Technologies of Russia. Encyclopedia of the twenty-first century".

    KAB-500S-E - the Russian equivalent of JDAM - falls into the category of "smart "bombs. It is designed to destroy ground and surface targets such as warehouses, silos, protected control centers, various military and industrial facilities, as well as warships and vessels berthed at the naval bases. KAB-500S-E is used as a part of modern combat aircraft weapons systems at altitudes ranging from 500 m to 10 km at a speed of media 550-1100 km / h. Battle of the explosive-betonoboynymi allowing hard target to hit. The probable circular deviation KAB-500S-E is 5-10 meters.

    "Brains", while the "heart" KAB-500S-E is a special 24-channel receiver-satellite navigation system (SNS) "GLONASS" / "Navstar" PSN-2001, developed by the Moscow Design Bureau "Compass." The PSN-2001 used modern radio-electronic technology and advanced algorithms for digital processing of navigation signals SNA. OJSC "MKB" Kompas "is known as the leading manufacturer in Russia Aircraft automatic radio, navigation systems, short- and medium-action, Receivers of satellite navigation systems. It should be noted that the current level of technology MKB" Kompas "(the company has a system of computer-aided design of electronic equipment using CMOS Technology, VLSI and programmable logic integrated circuit) allows to solve problems of any complexity.


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    MAIN SPECIFICATIONS KAB-500S-E

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    Weight, kg - not more than 500
    mass of warhead, kg - not less than 380
    Type of warhead - explosive-concrete-length, mm - 3000
    Diameter, mm - 350-400
    span tail, mm - 750
    guidance system - satellite guidance
    Blaster - pin with three species slow
    precision targeting Ekvo, m - 5.10
    Terms combat use - day and night in adverse weather conditions
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    INTELLIGENT NAVIGATION

    long time domestic Global Navigation Satellite System ("GLONASS") financed on leftovers and languish. The situation changed with the advent of the post of Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov, thanks to the efforts which the military space again took its rightful place in the priority of priorities. It began a gradual restoration of satellite constellation system "GLONASS". As the commander of Russian Space Forces Colonel General Vladimir Popovkin, its minimum staff - 18 spacecraft. At this rate, scheduled to come out in 2007 to replace outdated spacecraft will come a new generation of satellites with longer active existence - "GLONASS-M" and "Glonass-K". In the future composition of the groups will be increased to full-time - 24 spacecraft.

    At the same time Russia were actively working on the creation of multi-channel satellite receiver-RNS "GLONASS" and "Navstar". In particular, the unified family of modern navigational equipment on the basis of receiver-satellite navigation A-737 ("Kvytok-4C") developed by MKB "Kompas", defined the priority directions of development of special systems with elements of artificial intelligence to control sample complexes and AME.

    As the aforementioned receiver-SPE-2001, that one of his main features of the experts include:
    - 24-channel parallel reception of simultaneous signals, belonging to both the National Assembly or a "GLONASS" or a "Navstar";
    - automatic selection of the working constellation of the National Assembly at the same time "GLONASS "and" Navstar "on the principle of radio visibility of" all that is in heaven, "giving priority to signals HC single SNA and filling the remaining channels of signals NA other SNA;
    - measuring the carrier phase;
    - built-in clock;
    - differential mode measurement of navigation parameters (NP) When using the receiver differential corrections, which can be equipped with the SPE-2001, or an external input array differential corrections received over the air from the ground correction stations;
    - two independent antenna inputs, providing job PSN-2001 during the evolution of the aircraft and excluding interference received signals NA ;
    - automatic control of the integrity of the received signals;
    - automatic answer (and update) almanacs SNA "GLONASS" and "Navstar" and stored in non-volatile memory.

    The plans of the IBC "Compass" - the improvement of radio navigation equipment, its aggregation with other navigation systems, new the development of the ground segment of global satellite PHC, including systems for landing aircraft, precision control desantiruemye cargoes, navigational and logistics systems and systems for the transport communications.

    PERSPECTIVE

    Taking up arms air bombs with satellite-guided will raise to a qualitatively new level of strike capabilities of the Air Russian forces, including in the performance of tasks in the course of the antiterrorist operation in the North Caucasus. The most important advantage of KAB-500S-E - to apply, regardless of the time of day and weather conditions, combined with relatively low cost - making it a versatile weapon. In full it is possible to put into practice the principle of "shot - forgot." Aim is not necessary. The pilot simply press the reset button on the payload signal of the onboard computer. Next "smart" bomb will do everything itself automatically leads to a predetermined target satellite navigation system without any effort on the part of the pilot.

    Considering the plans increase the system "GLONASS" to a regular structure, it is possible the use of ASD satellite-guided to solve problems on any , the most remote theaters of war. Probably KAB-500S-E will be integrated into the arms not only looking aircraft (Su-32, Su-35 PAK FA), and strategic bombers Tu-160, reoriented to address non-nuclear missions.

    At KAB-500S-E good export prospects. It is obvious that countries such as India and China, will want to have a similar high-precision weapons. In this regard, experts expect that after a while the Indian side will raise the issue of including KAB-500S-E of the arms 140 Su-30MKI fighters, which are to be released under a license agreement with Russia has recently launched HAL Corporation. A similar request could come from China, in the event of further purchases of multi-role fighters "Su" (obviously, in the modification is not Su-30MK2 and Su-30MK3).


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    Post  Vann7 Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:43 pm

    Apparently Russian Airforce is having more fun in Syria and have been much more effective
    in their bombings that anyone believed. According VT who have Syrian government sources , Russia dropped an anti Bunker bomb in a bunker build by Turkey in 2013 in Syria , That was
    like a head quater of the CIA/Turkey/Saudi Arabia intelligence in Syria.. Supplying intelligence to the terrorist and where also a dozen of Alqaeda assets were located.

    And this is what have Saudi Arabia and Pentagon in rage and panic and hysteria
    over Russian bombing of so called "moderates" rebels zones.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/02/russias-secret-war-on-the-cia-in-syria/

    Apparently it was a bunker 40 feet under ground ned Rock.. 3 stories deep and capable
    of protecting 300 fighters.   Cool


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