Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

Werewolf wrote:

jesus fucking christ im saying that shit since the first video but everybody is like "don't worry everything is cool, perfect use of them"

Because your understanding of how to use weaponary in such a conflict is limited to US propaganda Apache videos of how they hunt reporters and shephards instead of actual manuals of how to deploy correctly force against enemy forces.

Speaking about helicopters....pro-terrorist media claim 3 RuAF/SAA helicopters shot down in Hama... Can you spot the problem lol?

Come on guys let's keep it civil.

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magnumcromagnon wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

jesus fucking christ im saying that shit since the first video but everybody is like "don't worry everything is cool, perfect use of them"

Because your understanding of how to use weaponary in such a conflict is limited to US propaganda Apache videos of how they hunt reporters and shephards instead of actual manuals of how to deploy correctly force against enemy forces.

Speaking about helicopters....pro-terrorist media claim 3 RuAF/SAA helicopters shot down in Hama... Can you spot the problem lol?

they are Apaches probably downed in either Iraq or Afghanistan

1. Имеющимися силами спасти Асада невозможно. Можно лишь продлить агонию. Поскольку "партнеры" не дадут этого сделать. Но они сделают всё так, чтобы мы понесли максимальные экономические (а в идеале и людские) потери от своего вмешательства.
2. Достаточными силами в Сирии одержать победу, теоретически, возможно. Но олигархическое государство с гедонистической "элитой" не готово идти на серьезные усилия, жертвы и риски, которые для этого потребуются. И, тем более, проводить мобилизационные мероприятия. Поэтому полноценное вмешательство невозможно. Именно по данной причине, как я понимаю, произошел отказ от разрешения куда более важного для национальных и государственных интересов "украинского кризиса".
Поэтому не будет ни "Левиафанов", ни чего-либо "выгодного" (даже для "Газпрома") вообще. Будет тотальный бардак и маразм со сплошными издержками.

1. With the available forces it's impossible to save Assad. One can only prolong the agony. As "partners" will not do. But they do everything so that we have suffered the highest economic (and ideally human) losses caused by its intervention.
2. Sufficient forces in Syria to win, it is theoretically possible. But our oligarchic state with hedonistic "elite" is not ready to make serious efforts, sacrifices and risks that will be required. And, moreover, to carry out mobilization measures. Therefore, it is impossible to complete the intervention. It is for this reason, as I understand it, there was a rejection of the resolution is much more important for national and public interest "of the Ukrainian crisis."
Therefore, there will be no "Leviathan" or something "profitable" (even for "Gazprom") in general. It will be total chaos and insanity with complete cost.

New Strelkov comments on the situation.

Godric wrote: they are Apaches probably downed in either Iraq or Afghanistan

More agitprop coming up...


...More downed phantom RuAf helicopters...  





...This one is from Syrian Girl, exposing more White Helmets pro-terrorist media Agitprop:

The same photo is used by the White Helmets­­ to claim that a girl survived both SAA and RuAF airstrikes. They can't seem to make up their minds...

First SAA


Then RuAF




"Moderate" rebels....

One of the oldest pictures on the internet of downed Apaches.

Monarchist wrote:

1. Имеющимися силами спасти Асада невозможно. Можно лишь продлить агонию. Поскольку "партнеры" не дадут этого сделать. Но они сделают всё так, чтобы мы понесли максимальные экономические (а в идеале и людские) потери от своего вмешательства.
2. Достаточными силами в Сирии одержать победу, теоретически, возможно. Но олигархическое государство с гедонистической "элитой" не готово идти на серьезные усилия, жертвы и риски, которые для этого потребуются. И, тем более, проводить мобилизационные мероприятия. Поэтому полноценное вмешательство невозможно. Именно по данной причине, как я понимаю, произошел отказ от разрешения куда более важного для национальных и государственных интересов "украинского кризиса".
Поэтому не будет ни "Левиафанов", ни чего-либо "выгодного" (даже для "Газпрома") вообще. Будет тотальный бардак и маразм со сплошными издержками.

1. With the available forces it's impossible to save Assad. One can only prolong the agony. As "partners" will not do. But they do everything so that we have suffered the highest economic (and ideally human) losses caused by its intervention.
2. Sufficient forces in Syria to win, it is theoretically possible. But our oligarchic state with hedonistic "elite" is not ready to make serious efforts, sacrifices and risks that will be required. And, moreover, to carry out mobilization measures. Therefore, it is impossible to complete the intervention. It is for this reason, as I understand it, there was a rejection of the resolution is much more important for national and public interest "of the Ukrainian crisis."
Therefore, there will be no "Leviathan" or something "profitable" (even for "Gazprom") in general. It will be total chaos and insanity with complete cost.

New Strelkov comments on the situation.

Pity he is showing his ignorance regarding the Syria/Iraq/Iran strategic connection. Syria does not need Russian fighting soldiers, indeed it would be very bad politically for all concerned. What it is getting from Russia is what it really needs, ship loads of 'stuff'. The soldiers that will operate and use that 'stuff, are the SAA plus as as many as are needed to top it up from Hezbollah and Iranian.

Also, now the tide seems to be turning you can bet your bottom dollar that the number of local recruits into the SAA is powering up as people their see there is now hope, less chance of being killed and a chance to get kudos for saving the country. Nothing like being a hero when an awful lot of local males seem to have fled the country leaving behind a disproportionate number of girls!!!

ultron wrote:

WTF is that?

Monarchist wrote:

1. Имеющимися силами спасти Асада невозможно. Можно лишь продлить агонию. Поскольку "партнеры" не дадут этого сделать. Но они сделают всё так, чтобы мы понесли максимальные экономические (а в идеале и людские) потери от своего вмешательства.
2. Достаточными силами в Сирии одержать победу, теоретически, возможно. Но олигархическое государство с гедонистической "элитой" не готово идти на серьезные усилия, жертвы и риски, которые для этого потребуются. И, тем более, проводить мобилизационные мероприятия. Поэтому полноценное вмешательство невозможно. Именно по данной причине, как я понимаю, произошел отказ от разрешения куда более важного для национальных и государственных интересов "украинского кризиса".
Поэтому не будет ни "Левиафанов", ни чего-либо "выгодного" (даже для "Газпрома") вообще. Будет тотальный бардак и маразм со сплошными издержками.

1. With the available forces it's impossible to save Assad. One can only prolong the agony. As "partners" will not do. But they do everything so that we have suffered the highest economic (and ideally human) losses caused by its intervention.
2. Sufficient forces in Syria to win, it is theoretically possible. But our oligarchic state with hedonistic "elite" is not ready to make serious efforts, sacrifices and risks that will be required. And, moreover, to carry out mobilization measures. Therefore, it is impossible to complete the intervention. It is for this reason, as I understand it, there was a rejection of the resolution is much more important for national and public interest "of the Ukrainian crisis."
Therefore, there will be no "Leviathan" or something "profitable" (even for "Gazprom") in general. It will be total chaos and insanity with complete cost.

New Strelkov comments on the situation.

Look, my friend Monarchist, let's get something straight. Unless you post a live vid of Polkovnik 'Strelkov' speaking those words it is, by 'Strelkov's' own very clear statements, not from him. Do you understand that principle? The good Polkovnik himself has stated often that anything read on the net is not from him unless he says it in an interview. I don't particularly care what you write and it is your right to say what you want when you want, but your right to speak your mind does not mean I have to listen to it. Couple more of these foolish and linkless pontifications and I'll be forced to send you for a while in to the corner where you can sit with flagship defeat, little dforce and hansel hauspfeffer.

PapaDragon wrote:
Found this...    

Ahmed asks:
- Am I in paradise?
- Yes, Ahmed
- Allahu Akbar. Is it true about the virgins?
- Yes, Ahmed
-Allahu Akbar. ....... Hey, why do I have tits and ... what is this !!!!!!
- Sorry Ahmed, yesterday we ran out of virgins....

That's a real giggle. You got an uptick for this one. I cleaned it up for my lass and she's still laughing.

JohninMK wrote:

ultron wrote:

WTF is that?

Looks like the standard multibarreled chain gun making life unsavory for some bad guys. However, it sounds like the US version, Iraq or Afghan. Doubt Mother would give any, if they have them, to SAA. After looking at it again I think it's doctored. That is a helluva long burst and the pile of brass would be the stuff of legend. Might be wrong but don't think so.

They wonder why we drink. Just the other day osce said they saw one of these little sweethearts in a NAF training facility. Of course no photo but what the heck...and now this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpuSKCDcBjE

Don't know who the schmuck pontificator is but he obviously is deeply knowledgeable about various weapon systems. Sigh. Time to open a second jug of Massandrah.

JohninMK wrote:

ultron wrote:

WTF is that?

its a old video from a army exercise

JohninMK wrote:WTF is that?

Shilka or Tunguska going full retard.

That's minigun. And that's an old video. Has nothing to do with Syria or Russia.

Godric wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

jesus fucking christ im saying that shit since the first video but everybody is like "don't worry everything is cool, perfect use of them"

Because your understanding of how to use weaponary in such a conflict is limited to US propaganda Apache videos of how they hunt reporters and shephards instead of actual manuals of how to deploy correctly force against enemy forces.

Speaking about helicopters....pro-terrorist media claim 3 RuAF/SAA helicopters shot down in Hama... Can you spot the problem lol?

they are Apaches probably downed in either Iraq or Afghanistan

2 Apaches and a Pakistani Cobra I think. Scratch that Five blades should be Soviet/Russian

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/iduskcn0sb0gq20151017?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5622803f04d30171ad000001&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

Medvedev said not propping assad govt . WTF?

max steel wrote:http://mobile.reuters.com/article/iduskcn0sb0gq20151017?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5622803f04d30171ad000001&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

Medvedev said not propping assad govt . WTF?

SOP we're not doing what we're doing, just pretending to help against ISIS. It's like we're not helping NovoRussia. No Russian Soldiers there.

Then in the end what's russia position in this problems ukraine&syria? Because all this games shows just some hidden interests