Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

Militarov wrote:

Guys... someone help me, i fell off my chair and i cant stand up...

Neutrality wrote:

Militarov wrote:

Guys... someone help me, i fell off my chair and i cant stand up...

He's going to learn the concept of thermal imaging the hard way.

Militarov wrote:

Guys... someone help me, i fell off my chair and i cant stand up...

Murad Gazdiev wrote:#mma fight on TV at one of the mess halls/cafes on #ruaf base in #syria. Again, stocked with stuff from russia

ult wrote:

BKP wrote:Might be interesting how this plays out:

Hersh Vindicated? Turkish Whistleblowers Corroborate Story on False Flag Sarin Attack in Syria
by PETER LEE,
OCTOBER 23, 2015H
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/23/hersh-vindicated-turkish-whistleblowers-corroborate-story-on-false-flag-sarin-attack-in-syria/

Werewolf wrote:You really believe that was posted by an Islamist and not some westerner sitting in europe making money for their little project called ISIS?

Militarov wrote:

Werewolf wrote:You really believe that was posted by an Islamist and not some westerner sitting in europe making money for their little project called ISIS?

Not that i can swear my life on it, but he was often contacted by journalists for informations, they are quite... extensive and specific for someone who is not there. Also he often posts pics he took himself...apparently.

Werewolf wrote:

Militarov wrote:

Werewolf wrote:You really believe that was posted by an Islamist and not some westerner sitting in europe making money for their little project called ISIS?

Not that i can swear my life on it, but he was often contacted by journalists for informations, they are quite... extensive and specific for someone who is not there. Also he often posts pics he took himself...apparently.

Sure because islamists who are fighting in ME are always prone to spread their psychological warfare for english audience (western world) and not their enemies, arabs (Syrians). You can believe what you want, but fact is fact, all that garbage in english is aimed at us and is entirely useless against those who they are claiming to fight.

max steel wrote:2 Turkish Parliament Members: Turkey Provided Chemical Weapons for Syrian Terrorist Attack

d_taddei2 wrote:does anyone know how the Syian airforce is doing? are they still carrying out attacks? there aircraft must surely be on there last legs with the amount of hours they have put in. Any news on the Yak 130 deliveries?

Militarov wrote:





ATGM being loaded on Mi24 in Syria, looks like Shturm to me.

Nemrod's post wrote:The recent events in Black Sea where SU-24 disabled all electronic warfare in the state of the art's USS Donald Cook was among the first warning. Nowadays since the september 2015 Russia built an "impenetrable" bubble. What does it mean ? In fact all NATO infrastructures are completely jammed if not disabled-it is a major event-. It means that NATO radars, satellites, AWACS, figthers, etc.. could not communicated between them, even less with the fighters above the bubbles, no use to tell more about the drones. It means too, that if NATO could not communicated with their hardware, and its fighters bombers including the F-22, how this aircraft could use its air to air missiles ?

NATO is desperate. The Pentagon is desperate. Imagine waking up one day in Washington and Brussels just to realize Russia has the ability to electronically jam — detect, trace, disable, destroy — NATO electronics within a 600 km range across Syria (and southern Turkey).

Imagine the nightmare of row after row of Russian Richag-AV radar and sonar jamming systems mounted on helicopters and ships jamming everything in sight and finding every available source of electromagnetic radiation. Not only in Syria but also in Ukraine.
Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, commander of U.S. Army units in Europe, was even forced to qualify Russian electronic warfare capabilities in Ukraine as "eye-watering."

Kyo wrote:https://www.russiadefence.net/t4594-breaking-news-it-is-official-us-military-admits-russia-s-military-is-defintly-ahead#130108

Nemrod's post wrote:The recent events in Black Sea where SU-24 disabled all electronic warfare in the state of the art's USS Donald Cook was among the first warning. Nowadays since the september 2015 Russia built an "impenetrable" bubble. What does it mean ? In fact all NATO infrastructures are completely jammed if not disabled-it is a major event-. It means that NATO radars, satellites, AWACS, figthers, etc.. could not communicated between them, even less with the fighters above the bubbles, no use to tell more about the drones. It means too, that if NATO could not communicated with their hardware, and its fighters bombers including the F-22, how this aircraft could use its air to air missiles ?

And, as quoted by Max Steel in https://www.russiadefence.net/t4584p15-russian-military-involvement-and-aid-to-syria-4#129970:

Empire of Chaos is in a Jam

NATO is desperate. The Pentagon is desperate. Imagine waking up one day in Washington and Brussels just to realize Russia has the ability to electronically jam — detect, trace, disable, destroy — NATO electronics within a 600 km range across Syria (and southern Turkey).

Imagine the nightmare of row after row of Russian Richag-AV radar and sonar jamming systems mounted on helicopters and ships jamming everything in sight and finding every available source of electromagnetic radiation. Not only in Syria but also in Ukraine.
Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, commander of U.S. Army units in Europe, was even forced to qualify Russian electronic warfare capabilities in Ukraine as "eye-watering."

Vann7 wrote:

Kyo wrote:https://www.russiadefence.net/t4594-breaking-news-it-is-official-us-military-admits-russia-s-military-is-defintly-ahead#130108

Nemrod's post wrote:The recent events in Black Sea where SU-24 disabled all electronic warfare in the state of the art's USS Donald Cook was among the first warning. Nowadays since the september 2015 Russia built an "impenetrable" bubble. What does it mean ? In fact all NATO infrastructures are completely jammed if not disabled-it is a major event-. It means that NATO radars, satellites, AWACS, figthers, etc.. could not communicated between them, even less with the fighters above the bubbles, no use to tell more about the drones. It means too, that if NATO could not communicated with their hardware, and its fighters bombers including the F-22, how this aircraft could use its air to air missiles ?

And, as quoted by Max Steel in https://www.russiadefence.net/t4584p15-russian-military-involvement-and-aid-to-syria-4#129970:

Empire of Chaos is in a Jam

NATO is desperate. The Pentagon is desperate. Imagine waking up one day in Washington and Brussels just to realize Russia has the ability to electronically jam — detect, trace, disable, destroy — NATO electronics within a 600 km range across Syria (and southern Turkey).

Imagine the nightmare of row after row of Russian Richag-AV radar and sonar jamming systems mounted on helicopters and ships jamming everything in sight and finding every available source of electromagnetic radiation. Not only in Syria but also in Ukraine.
Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, commander of U.S. Army units in Europe, was even forced to qualify Russian electronic warfare capabilities in Ukraine as "eye-watering."

As much as i believe Russia have world best counter electronics ,Im still skeptic of the Donald Cook incident and about such claims of 600km area denial for NATO. That can't be true.. for several reasons..

1)First and above all , NATO returned with the Donald Cook to Black sea and they even used
a camera to record Russian planes flying very near of their warships. if there was any jamming
and counter electronics the US civilian cameras did not stopped working at all.. it recorded all perfectly Russian planes flying near their warships.

2) The terrorist in Syria continues to film videos of Russian air strikes no problem..with lots of detail and continue their radio communications. check any video uploaded by the terrorist. every day they upload one ,and they film withing 10km to 30km distance of the combat zone.
and in all their videos you can listen in the background radio communications happening and even terrorist smart phones ring tones operating.  

3) If Russia had an area denial in Syria Airspace ,None of US drones will be operating. they
need radio communications to be operated by control remote and nothing of that is happening.

4)If Russia had such area denial for NATO..600km.. or even 200km, then how did the US Airforce bombed 2 times the Electrical Power station in Aleppo?  For me logic will say after the first attack Russia will have moved a switch somewhere to cover Aleppo airspace and not allow Americans used guided missiles against vital Civilian infrastructure like electricity and water is.

But so far NATO continues bombing Syrian government important facilities and Russia
counter electronics not helping at all.

If Russia had the ability to shut down radio communication withing 600km distance from latakia
but also damage electronics using conventional weapons ,then none of the videos of the terrorist will show radio communications in the background between terrorist operating just fine. Also the fact that US airforce can get close to Russian airforce at times or can detect when Russia invade Turkey Airspace shows that Russian planes
are being detected after all.

Had Russia had the powerful counter electronics ,those reports claim.. in the Hama attack for example.. that we saw of the Russian helicopters flying very low in circles.. then none of those videos will have been possible.. since the most ideal thing to do in such battles ,will have been
to shut down any kind of electronics the terrorist use.. including cameras ,drones ,and TOW missiles too jammed.. but they continue operating normally ,at least with the videos i have seen.

Maybe Russia had those powerful Electronic warfare western unofficial reports claim.. but
until now so far ,based on video evidence on the battle field ,doesn't look like they are using such weapons in Syria at all. Or not using them.

For me will have been really mind blowing if for example Russia counter electronics can damage
anti tank missiles like TOW and Kornets and stinger and javelin missiles , and igla, way before
they reach their target. But until now haven't seen any information that Russia counter electronics are are stopping terrorist in Syria from doing any operation with or using radio communications and missiles.