NationalRus wrote:they should better organise a very mobile elite brigade and we do the equipping and training, even the so called elite "republican guard" runs around by now with mostly no armour, old aks etc. etc.
and yeah to see them shot Ak's is painfully how bad the training and discipline got with such a big caliber, 3 out of 4 dont mount the fucking gun and dont lean in to it... so much lybian inshalla shooting stand, gun doesnt mounted and to the best over your fucking head while shooting
SAA is arguably the worst army in the world. Enough said.
No they are not, they have been fighting against NATO(a superpower US), Gulf Countries(these Gulf countries have endless supply of money), Israel(a country that has the support of the Rothschild family, the richest family the world has ever seen).
par far wrote:No they are not, they have been fighting against NATO(a superpower US), Gulf Countries(these Gulf countries have endless supply of money), Israel(a country that has the support of the Rothschild family, the richest family the world has ever seen).
Stop making things up. Do rebels in Syria have large numbers of artillery and tanks like rebels in Ukraine have? No they don't. They have a few of these captured from SAA. Stop making it sound like NATO is the one behind the uprising in Syria. It was an uprising against dictatorship.
par far wrote:No they are not, they have been fighting against NATO(a superpower US), Gulf Countries(these Gulf countries have endless supply of money), Israel(a country that has the support of the Rothschild family, the richest family the world has ever seen).
Stop making things up. Do rebels in Syria have large numbers of artillery and tanks like rebels in Ukraine have? No they don't. They have a few of these captured from SAA. Stop making it sound like NATO is the one behind the uprising in Syria. It was an uprising against dictatorship.
do you need tanks and artillery to win specially a urban battle? no
par far wrote:No they are not, they have been fighting against NATO(a superpower US), Gulf Countries(these Gulf countries have endless supply of money), Israel(a country that has the support of the Rothschild family, the richest family the world has ever seen).
Stop making things up. Do rebels in Syria have large numbers of artillery and tanks like rebels in Ukraine have? No they don't. They have a few of these captured from SAA. Stop making it sound like NATO is the one behind the uprising in Syria. It was an uprising against dictatorship.
I don't know when you started following the Syrian war, "the rebels" in Syria are not some rag tag assholes you think they are, they are British, US, Israeli, Turkish, Saudi special ops. "The rebels" were getting live images from US satellites to everything thing the SAA was doing and US and it's allies were sending in military equipment to "the rebels".
"It was an uprising against dictatorship", you are a total fucking retard, this was not an uprising against dictatorship(if you care to look up how life was under Assad and how it is now and how it would have been had Russia not intervened on behalf of Assad, you will know that Assad was not bad as your west makes him out to be, minorities lived peacefully and everyone had rights, the country had some problems because of the illegal sanctions that was imposed on it by the US.)
This was done by the US for the same reason that Ukraine was destabilized and made into a anti Russia country. The US wants to bring Russia under it's thumb and wanted to cut Russian gas exports to the EU, they first put an anti Russia, pro US/NATO regime in Ukraine and wanted Qatar/Saudi, Kuwaiti gas to come into EU. Their project in Ukraine failed and Assad also said no to Qatar/Saudi, Kuwaiti gas pipes through Syria. Syria has large amounts of oil right on it's shores, that the US wanted but Assad gave the rights to Russia, you don't have a clue to whats going on, you are just an arrogant troll asshole. All this Arab Spring and war on Syria was planned a long time ago.
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ultron wrote:Why don't Russia give some surplus AK-74s to SAA? I cringe every time I see SAA armed with AK-47s.
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Also i served with Yugoslavian M92 variant and there is no reason for it to be replaced, its well suited for their needs as long as it does not have damage from extensive use.
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My only objection was wight (we IT guys tend to be skinny ) but when it came to putting holes in desired locations it worked like a charm every single time!
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Also, stop feeding the troll already, you used up 3 pages for this and we also have 4 pages of religion on Syria war tread...
par far wrote:I don't know when you started following the Syrian war, "the rebels" in Syria are not some rag tag assholes you think they are, they are British, US, Israeli, Turkish, Saudi special ops. "The rebels" were getting live images from US satellites to everything thing the SAA was doing and US and it's allies were sending in military equipment to "the rebels".
"It was an uprising against dictatorship", you are a total fucking retard, this was not an uprising against dictatorship(if you care to look up how life was under Assad and how it is now and how it would have been had Russia not intervened on behalf of Assad, you will know that Assad was not bad as your west makes him out to be, minorities lived peacefully and everyone had rights, the country had some problems because of the illegal sanctions that was imposed on it by the US.)
This was done by the US for the same reason that Ukraine was destabilized and made into a anti Russia country. The US wants to bring Russia under it's thumb and wanted to cut Russian gas exports to the EU, they first put an anti Russia, pro US/NATO regime in Ukraine and wanted Qatar/Saudi, Kuwaiti gas to come into EU. Their project in Ukraine failed and Assad also said no to Qatar/Saudi, Kuwaiti gas pipes through Syria. Syria has large amounts of oil right on it's shores, that the US wanted but Assad gave the rights to Russia, you don't have a clue to whats going on, you are just an arrogant troll asshole. All this Arab Spring and war on Syria was planned a long time ago.
If so, then this exactly highlights SAA's incompetence. Did you see how rebels recaptured Markabah and Lahaya by sending a couple of guys running towards SAA and SAA tucked their tails and run, leaving tanks behind? If SAA is indeed defending their country, they shouldn't have shown such cowardice. Rebels do not have a foothold in Iran precisely because the Iranian army is not incompetent like SAA.
Still waiting news where VVS or SyAF blow ISIS oil fields or bomb rebel's supply convoys.
As Roman old sayings "Money is the bloodline of war" ..cutting down the source of money will shut those ISIS and Rebel terroist scum dead on its track.
I was thinking the same. But I also think they may not want to in order to obtain them back by capturing them as it will be a money maker for Damascus. But if they know they wont get them back, then bomb it.
That 819 number is really old. They used to report how many strikes daily.
Anyway, what is struck is only the tip of the iceberg. To make a difference on the battle field, they need an A-50 AWACS to locate enemy convoys and direct planes to attack convoys to prevent the enemy from being able to mount an offensive like they did in Hama a couple of days ago.
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par far wrote:I don't know when you started following the Syrian war, "the rebels" in Syria are not some rag tag assholes you think they are, they are British, US, Israeli, Turkish, Saudi special ops. "The rebels" were getting live images from US satellites to everything thing the SAA was doing and US and it's allies were sending in military equipment to "the rebels".
"It was an uprising against dictatorship", you are a total fucking retard, this was not an uprising against dictatorship(if you care to look up how life was under Assad and how it is now and how it would have been had Russia not intervened on behalf of Assad, you will know that Assad was not bad as your west makes him out to be, minorities lived peacefully and everyone had rights, the country had some problems because of the illegal sanctions that was imposed on it by the US.)
This was done by the US for the same reason that Ukraine was destabilized and made into a anti Russia country. The US wants to bring Russia under it's thumb and wanted to cut Russian gas exports to the EU, they first put an anti Russia, pro US/NATO regime in Ukraine and wanted Qatar/Saudi, Kuwaiti gas to come into EU. Their project in Ukraine failed and Assad also said no to Qatar/Saudi, Kuwaiti gas pipes through Syria. Syria has large amounts of oil right on it's shores, that the US wanted but Assad gave the rights to Russia, you don't have a clue to whats going on, you are just an arrogant troll asshole. All this Arab Spring and war on Syria was planned a long time ago.
If so, then this exactly highlights SAA's incompetence. Did you see how rebels recaptured Markabah and Lahaya by sending a couple of guys running towards SAA and SAA tucked their tails and run, leaving tanks behind? If SAA is indeed defending their country, they shouldn't have shown such cowardice. Rebels do not have a foothold in Iran precisely because the Iranian army is not incompetent like SAA.
The SAA has been incompetence in some cases, this highlights the involvement of US and it's allies, several high ranking SAA officers, were bribed to give out information and just run away, same thing was done in Iraq by Qatar(where offered money to soldiers fighting terrorists, to just run away, so the terrorists , will seem invincible).
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The above guy [ultron] ,remembers me the guy with an alias.. [Victory...] who was also another troll.
The moron was claiming Putin betrayed novorosiya and that he failed and should leave Crimea..
Now ultron seems a clone of him. he seems he learned about the Syrian conflict last week and knows nothing about the Syrian Conflict. Now he is saying Russia gave up you have to admire the trolls for their persistence in trolling? Why people likes to troll i don't know.
Is clear he is pro Terrorist and wants to see Syria destroyed or indeed is a real moron, and do not understand that you cannot allow ISIS or ALqaeda to take control of your country. Same way he will not allow a stranger in the night with a Gun to enter his house to murder his family..Same way Assad will not allow ISIS or Alqaeda to take control of Syria no matter how the west call him dictator or not. No matter if the entire world invades Syria. you don't Surrender when the life of your family and your nation is on the line. So because Assad cares about Syria ,he have no choice but to continue the fight against terrorist and help in the unity of the country . The west do not care about dictators. they are happy with middle east kings with major human rights
And Russia/Putin is creating a diplomacy trap that will allow Obama to retreat from the war in Syria.. and allow also the nations seeking to overthrow Assad to do the same . IF they refuse the peace plan ,they will be exposed as part of the problem and it will help with the public opinion even more world wide that the West is not really interested in ending the conflict.
meanwhile Israeli General Captured in IRAQ.. helping ISIS.
ultron wrote:Anyone notice there is no more reports from MOD about how many strikes Russia is doing in Syria?
The last vid was 4 days ago. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQGqX5Ndpm4snE0NTjyOJnA/videos
There is no more twitter update about Syria. https://twitter.com/mod_russia?lang=en
Looks like Putin gave up.
It has not stopped, look up what the west media is saying, they are bitching that Russian air strikes are "killing civilians"(like the US has never invaded or destabilized any country, while killing millions of civilians). You know what this means, this means that the Russian Air Strikes are working and killing NATO backed terrorists and the American assholes are screwed, while their petro dollar collapses and their Jewish masters don't know what the fuck to do because the greater Israel project has gone to shit.
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What's the difference between SAA and the Iranian army? Corruption. Cowardice. Incompetence. Iran is a religious Shia country. What is Syria? Corrupt and secular. That's the difference. You don't see insurgents in Iran. In Syria there are even insurgents in the capital city.
ultron wrote:What's the difference between SAA and the Iranian army? Corruption. Cowardice. Incompetence. Iran is a religious Shia country. What is Syria? Corrupt and secular. That's the difference. You don't see insurgents in Iran. In Syria there are even insurgents in the capital city.
The Iranian army is not corrupted and they are not cowards, if that were true, they would not exist. Assad trusted the west and that was his big mistake. And by the way, why are you such a fucking troll asshole?
par far wrote: The Iranian army is not corrupted and they are not cowards, if that were true, they would not exist. Assad trusted the west and that was his big mistake. And by the way, why are you such a fucking troll asshole?
Assad made the mistake of not modernizing Syria's military. While Israel has the latest F-15s and F-16s and Merkava 4s and Tavors, Syrian soldiers drive T-55s, fly MiG-21s, shoot AK-47s.
iraqidabab wrote:Is it true Russia might establish itself in that Kuwaires or something airbase in Aleppo when the siege is broken
No need for that from what I can tell.
Coastline and Lebanese border are prime realestate in Syria and Russia already has those in the bag. Rest of it is mostly desert and even helicopters can make round trip around the country from Latakia with extra fuel tanks, to say nothing about jets.
I think they will, but not sure. I personally feel they should as it will help base the attack choppers in the base and the units operating out of the base will be able to give good close air-support for the advancing units. Operating out of Latakia for ops in the east is not practical due to the time involved. What the advancing units around Aleppo and east needs are close air-support on short notice and it can only come from units based in Kuweries.
I'm sure once air-base is linked and areas secured for attack choppers to be based, we'll see a good chunk of territory changing hands around Aleppo and east and Raqqa.
Helicopters should be operating just behind the front line supporting army advance. In the US helicopters are part of army, not part of air force. Helicopters do not need to operate from an air base and should not do so.
par far wrote: The Iranian army is not corrupted and they are not cowards, if that were true, they would not exist. Assad trusted the west and that was his big mistake. And by the way, why are you such a fucking troll asshole?
Assad made the mistake of not modernizing Syria's military. While Israel has the latest F-15s and F-16s and Merkava 4s and Tavors, Syrian soldiers drive T-55s, fly MiG-21s, shoot AK-47s.
Syria is much poorer than both Israel and the Gulf nations... It does not have $5 bilion of money to spend on military equipment each year... and Russia is not rich enough to send dozens of tanks for free like USSR did. Well, if China wanted to, it could pay for new military equipment for Syria - but would they be willing to?
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