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Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4
Stealthflanker- Posts : 1459
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Well..how about waitin until the investigation about that crash begin ?
Solncepek- Posts : 276
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Russian elite units in Zabadani, Homs, Hama and Aleppo
“Al-Rai” learned that “Special Elite Russian combat forces arrived to Hama, Aleppo, Homs, Damascus, as well as Zabadani to monitor, participate and study the military map on the field and suggest future workflow Combat plans. These Special Forces submit to the operating room suggestions to determine the full plan to start the flow of further Russian special combat forces and troops on the battlefield all over the Syrian map where it is necessary”.
This development will be the largest Russian external military intervention since Afghanistan in 1979.
A very senior field commander around Zabadani city said that “there are small Russian combat units, mostly sniper unit that we call the “Ivan unit”, another reconnaissance unit, a unit of urban warfare, and advanced missiles unit in the area of operations run by the Syrian Army. ”
Ivan and Yulia belong to a Russian sniper unit that came recently to Zabadani. At the end of the day, the team left after shooting 4 deadly bullets. “I return to Aleppo where there is more action than Zabadani. Here there isn’t much left”, said Yulia before leaving Zabadani, according to the source.
“Russia is beginning with what we define as a” quiet support ” supplying advanced technology and preparing a spearhead force before reaching a further level we call the” stormy Support “. We expect a large presence of troops that will be supported by Russian Air Force. There are around 2500 Russian fighters, military expert and consultant in Syria. The number is expected to go much higher in the near future “, confirm the source that is in contact with the Russian units on the Syrian ground.
“There are two aspects for the Russian intervention in Syria: In the first, the front line should be reinforced, maintained and is expected later to recover more lands and lost cities. The second is to hunt and bomb the Islamic State (ISIS) group leaders as well as other extremist groups in Syria, without exception. There are no red lines for the Russian operational tactics against terrorism that may extend to Iraq if necessary. The Kremlin has decided to face and fight terrorism by all means and is determine to eliminate, not to contain, ISIS.
http://fortruss.blogspot.bg/2015/10/russian-elite-units-in-zabadani-homs.html
“Al-Rai” learned that “Special Elite Russian combat forces arrived to Hama, Aleppo, Homs, Damascus, as well as Zabadani to monitor, participate and study the military map on the field and suggest future workflow Combat plans. These Special Forces submit to the operating room suggestions to determine the full plan to start the flow of further Russian special combat forces and troops on the battlefield all over the Syrian map where it is necessary”.
This development will be the largest Russian external military intervention since Afghanistan in 1979.
A very senior field commander around Zabadani city said that “there are small Russian combat units, mostly sniper unit that we call the “Ivan unit”, another reconnaissance unit, a unit of urban warfare, and advanced missiles unit in the area of operations run by the Syrian Army. ”
Ivan and Yulia belong to a Russian sniper unit that came recently to Zabadani. At the end of the day, the team left after shooting 4 deadly bullets. “I return to Aleppo where there is more action than Zabadani. Here there isn’t much left”, said Yulia before leaving Zabadani, according to the source.
“Russia is beginning with what we define as a” quiet support ” supplying advanced technology and preparing a spearhead force before reaching a further level we call the” stormy Support “. We expect a large presence of troops that will be supported by Russian Air Force. There are around 2500 Russian fighters, military expert and consultant in Syria. The number is expected to go much higher in the near future “, confirm the source that is in contact with the Russian units on the Syrian ground.
“There are two aspects for the Russian intervention in Syria: In the first, the front line should be reinforced, maintained and is expected later to recover more lands and lost cities. The second is to hunt and bomb the Islamic State (ISIS) group leaders as well as other extremist groups in Syria, without exception. There are no red lines for the Russian operational tactics against terrorism that may extend to Iraq if necessary. The Kremlin has decided to face and fight terrorism by all means and is determine to eliminate, not to contain, ISIS.
http://fortruss.blogspot.bg/2015/10/russian-elite-units-in-zabadani-homs.html
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There were reports about 'Ivan' snipers 2-3 weeks ago and some have credited them with the taking out of several rebel commanders in Aleppo. I doubt we'll see large regular Russian units taking part though...more likely some unofficial/volunteer type groups.
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OFC there are Russians there, FOC or advisers and etc. But picture the one You posted is very old one. Those guys got into some problems after their trip to Syria. Nothing major, but they were left out of pocket.Solncepek wrote:snip
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I am not a lawyer nor have any formation in this, but confession alone is not accepted as evidence of who committed a crime, and no one will be throw to jail just for confessing a crime. It is very easy to guess why. What you are claiming is very stupid.ultron wrote:whir wrote:Are you for real?ultra wrote:If someone got killed and you claim responsibility then you would make yourself guilty of manslaughter.
Believe it or not, if you claim responsibility for someone who got murdered, you get to be thrown in jail.
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Warload in Latakia airbase:
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"In Syria, Russian media take a page from US playbook"
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-russian-media-page-us-playbook-164313356.html
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"Alexandr Tkachenko", Syria Express.
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/69872/
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Militarov wrote:
Few photos of which this Syrian soldier claims to be Russian soldier and their vehicle. Looks like AKS-74 in his hands. Unifom however is unusual pattern for Russians, looks like version of uniform i saw few times on MVD members, some kind of Woodlandish pattern but never on soldiers. (and guy kinda does not look to me like he is Russian to be honest)
Reminds abit of Serbian M03 pattern too.
Syrian woodland ripoff and russian woodland ripoff ("Lyes" aka forest, by analogy, woodland...) are not the same thing at all. Yes in the 2000s this camo (the oversuits made by the company which i forgot the name) was very popular in russian troops. Now, not so much, there are so many alternatives and modern camos available...
And for the photo with obvious slav guy + in the BDU + the usual russian green digital gear, well, he's obviously wearing a syrian BDU for reasons (his clothes were fucked, he liked it, he wants to blend with syrians, etc, who knows)
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Syrian woodland ripoff and russian woodland ripoff ("Lyes" aka forest, by analogy, woodland...) are not the same thing at all. Yes in the 2000s this camo (the oversuits made by the company which i forgot the name) was very popular in russian troops. Now, not so much, there are so many alternatives and modern camos available...
And for the photo with obvious slav guy + in the BDU + the usual russian green digital gear, well, he's obviously wearing a syrian BDU for reasons (his clothes were fucked, he liked it, he wants to blend with syrians, etc, who knows)
Well aware they are not the same. There are like at least 10-15 different woodland ripoffs around. Well tbh even uniform i served in, M03, is kinda woodland ripoff. However i found it very unusual for Russian soldier to wear Syrian uniform, somehow i cant find legit enough reason. In fact by what we here call PS ("Pravilo službe") discarting your service uniform is probably for firing squad
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[quote="Militarov"]
He's not wearing a Syrian uniform, it's the old "NATO/Les" pattern that was fairly popular 15 years ago (mainly in MVD though).
As to why... could be they're issuing some to blend more with the syrians uniforms?
Harder to get sniped if they can't tell who's Russian and who's Syrian. Easier to make joint units and hide yourself from the locals too (low footprint is key to counter-insurgency something the US still doesn't understand and Russia learned the hard way).
However i found it very unusual for Russian soldier to wear Syrian uniform, somehow i cant find legit enough reason. In fact by what we here call PS ("Pravilo službe") discarting your service uniform is probably for firing squad
He's not wearing a Syrian uniform, it's the old "NATO/Les" pattern that was fairly popular 15 years ago (mainly in MVD though).
As to why... could be they're issuing some to blend more with the syrians uniforms?
Harder to get sniped if they can't tell who's Russian and who's Syrian. Easier to make joint units and hide yourself from the locals too (low footprint is key to counter-insurgency something the US still doesn't understand and Russia learned the hard way).
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Russia no longer a superpower: US
WASHINGTON: Russia is no longer a superpower as its deteriorating economy is ranked "somewhere behind Spain", the White House on Thursday said and stressed that Moscow's influence is limited compared to the erstwhile Soviet Union.
"Russia is no longer a superpower. Observed in the last couple of weeks that the condition of Russia's economy is weak and further deteriorating," White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters.
"They are now the 15th-largest economy in the world, and they rank somewhere behind Spain," he said.
Earnest said Russia does not have the kind of influence that the Soviet Union once did and it does not have the kind of economic power that the Soviet Union once was able to flex.
"Their economy is getting worse, and Russia is isolated in a significant way. Not just from countries in Europe, but, as they get further engaged in a sectarian quagmire inside of Syria, they're finding that the only friends that they have there to fight in a difficult fight with them is a floundering Syrian government and the Iranian regime," he said.
Earnest also earlier said that the US Navy scrambled four fighter jets to intercept Russian warplanes earlier this week near a US aircraft carrier operating off the Korean peninsula in the Sea of Japan.
Two Russian planes flew close to the USS Ronald Reagan, prompting the mobilisation of four FA-18s, he said.
"There were four FA-18 firers from the carrier airwing five that were launched to intercept the bombers and the US Navy aircraft did escort the Russian aircraft until they departed the area where the carrier, the USS Ronald Reagan was operating," he said.
"We have previously raised concerns about Russian military aircraft essentially carrying out incursions on the sovereignty of other countries... This is a little bit different than that. This is -- these are international waters and international airspace," Earnest said.
The US has regularly urged the Russian military to make sure that their operations in this space were consistent with generally accepted international protocols.
This is a particular situation that did not result in a significant confrontation for that reason, he added.
Earnest acknowledged that there's no doubt that there are some vigorous disagreements between our two countries on issues like Ukraine and Syria, most prominently.
"We've been pretty candid about our concerns about Russians behaviour, particularly with regard to those two countries," he said.
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[quote="Austin"]Russia no longer a superpower: US
I would like to see how the Washington explains why the US is one of the worlds largest debtor nations whilst Russia is still a creditor nation. The US economy is fake, run by money printing not goods and services.WASHINGTON: Russia is no longer a superpower as its deteriorating economy is ranked "somewhere behind Spain", the White House on Thursday said and stressed that Moscow's influence is limited compared to the erstwhile Soviet Union.
"Russia is no longer a superpower. Observed in the last couple of weeks that the condition of Russia's economy is weak and further deteriorating," White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters.
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Austin wrote:Russia no longer a superpower: US
WASHINGTON: Russia is no longer a superpower as its deteriorating economy is ranked "somewhere behind Spain", the White House on Thursday said and stressed that Moscow's influence is limited compared to the erstwhile Soviet Union.
"Russia is no longer a superpower. Observed in the last couple of weeks that the condition of Russia's economy is weak and further deteriorating," White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters.
"They are now the 15th-largest economy in the world, and they rank somewhere behind Spain," he said.
Earnest said Russia does not have the kind of influence that the Soviet Union once did and it does not have the kind of economic power that the Soviet Union once was able to flex.
"Their economy is getting worse, and Russia is isolated in a significant way. Not just from countries in Europe, but, as they get further engaged in a sectarian quagmire inside of Syria, they're finding that the only friends that they have there to fight in a difficult fight with them is a floundering Syrian government and the Iranian regime," he said.
Earnest also earlier said that the US Navy scrambled four fighter jets to intercept Russian warplanes earlier this week near a US aircraft carrier operating off the Korean peninsula in the Sea of Japan.
Two Russian planes flew close to the USS Ronald Reagan, prompting the mobilisation of four FA-18s, he said.
"There were four FA-18 firers from the carrier airwing five that were launched to intercept the bombers and the US Navy aircraft did escort the Russian aircraft until they departed the area where the carrier, the USS Ronald Reagan was operating," he said.
"We have previously raised concerns about Russian military aircraft essentially carrying out incursions on the sovereignty of other countries... This is a little bit different than that. This is -- these are international waters and international airspace," Earnest said.
The US has regularly urged the Russian military to make sure that their operations in this space were consistent with generally accepted international protocols.
This is a particular situation that did not result in a significant confrontation for that reason, he added.
Earnest acknowledged that there's no doubt that there are some vigorous disagreements between our two countries on issues like Ukraine and Syria, most prominently.
"We've been pretty candid about our concerns about Russians behaviour, particularly with regard to those two countries," he said.
All this ranting man. FFS just try it. Try and go for no longer a super power and see what happens. Earth be damned, just fucking try it.
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Interesting that they are confident storing all that stuff out in the open. Its not even well away from the flight line.Militarov wrote:Warload in Latakia airbase:
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Erk wrote:Austin wrote:Russia no longer a superpower: US
I would like to see how the Washington explains why the US is one of the worlds largest debtor nations whilst Russia is still a creditor nation. The US economy is fake, run by money printing not goods and services.WASHINGTON: Russia is no longer a superpower as its deteriorating economy is ranked "somewhere behind Spain", the White House on Thursday said and stressed that Moscow's influence is limited compared to the erstwhile Soviet Union.
"Russia is no longer a superpower. Observed in the last couple of weeks that the condition of Russia's economy is weak and further deteriorating," White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters.
There is a fatal flaw in their statement though. GDP nominal takes into account of exchange rate of currency, while PPP takes into account value of domestic currency within its own country and cost of goods. Which in this case, means Russian economy (true economy) is over $3T, much larger than spains (2x). USA is very butthurt over what Russia has done recently, and made the Americans look stupid (they did that to themselves actually) and are now trying to project themselves and their fake economy as something else. I will actually do an article on my website about this.
A loaf of bread in Russia is much cheaper than US. A Russian fighter jet, cruise missiles, small ships, ballistic missiles, etc are cheaper than in US. Hence why GDP PPP matters and not Nominal.
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sepheronx wrote:Erk wrote:Austin wrote:Russia no longer a superpower: US
I would like to see how the Washington explains why the US is one of the worlds largest debtor nations whilst Russia is still a creditor nation. The US economy is fake, run by money printing not goods and services.WASHINGTON: Russia is no longer a superpower as its deteriorating economy is ranked "somewhere behind Spain", the White House on Thursday said and stressed that Moscow's influence is limited compared to the erstwhile Soviet Union.
"Russia is no longer a superpower. Observed in the last couple of weeks that the condition of Russia's economy is weak and further deteriorating," White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters.
There is a fatal flaw in their statement though. GDP nominal takes into account of exchange rate of currency, while PPP takes into account value of domestic currency within its own country and cost of goods. Which in this case, means Russian economy (true economy) is over $3T, much larger than spains (2x). USA is very butthurt over what Russia has done recently, and made the Americans look stupid (they did that to themselves actually) and are now trying to project themselves and their fake economy as something else. I will actually do an article on my website about this.
Poor little America, oh so butthurt from being exposed as a puffed up Wizard of Oz prop.
Actually the $3 trillion is an underestimate since the PPP metric is fixated on consumer goods and services. Also, the $17 trillion US economy is
a gross overestimate based on fudged inflation numbers going back to at least 1990. The real US inflation has been close to 6% for
a long time but is claimed to be 2% or less. Take the difference and apply it over a 25 year period: 1.04^25 = 2.7. So the US GDP is
inflated by a factor of 2.7. I do not see any evidence of the $50,000 per capita GDP the US supposedly has. Most American families
make much less than $150,000 per year just like in Canada. In fact, it is closer to $70,000 in the cities and less in the country side.
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kvs wrote:sepheronx wrote:Erk wrote:Austin wrote:Russia no longer a superpower: US
I would like to see how the Washington explains why the US is one of the worlds largest debtor nations whilst Russia is still a creditor nation. The US economy is fake, run by money printing not goods and services.WASHINGTON: Russia is no longer a superpower as its deteriorating economy is ranked "somewhere behind Spain", the White House on Thursday said and stressed that Moscow's influence is limited compared to the erstwhile Soviet Union.
"Russia is no longer a superpower. Observed in the last couple of weeks that the condition of Russia's economy is weak and further deteriorating," White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters.
There is a fatal flaw in their statement though. GDP nominal takes into account of exchange rate of currency, while PPP takes into account value of domestic currency within its own country and cost of goods. Which in this case, means Russian economy (true economy) is over $3T, much larger than spains (2x). USA is very butthurt over what Russia has done recently, and made the Americans look stupid (they did that to themselves actually) and are now trying to project themselves and their fake economy as something else. I will actually do an article on my website about this.
Poor little America, oh so butthurt from being exposed as a puffed up Wizard of Oz prop.
Actually the $3 trillion is an underestimate since the PPP metric is fixated on consumer goods and services. Also, the $17 trillion US economy is
a gross overestimate based on fudged inflation numbers going back to at least 1990. The real US inflation has been close to 6% for
a long time but is claimed to be 2% or less. Take the difference and apply it over a 25 year period: 1.04^25 = 2.7. So the US GDP is
inflated by a factor of 2.7. I do not see any evidence of the $50,000 per capita GDP the US supposedly has. Most American families
make much less than $150,000 per year just like in Canada. In fact, it is closer to $70,000 in the cities and less in the country side.
I will be asking for your assistance on the article I will write about how Austins article isnt worth toilet paper. And am wondering if you will be able to help?
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JohninMK wrote:Interesting that they are confident storing all that stuff out in the open. Its not even well away from the flight line.Militarov wrote:Warload in Latakia airbase:
Well there are no real storage facilities for ammunition there atm, and i guess these are just amounts that will be used in next 24-48h, its not huge stockpile, they are probably keeping bigger amounts of warload somewhere else.
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Bidoul wrote:Militarov wrote:
However i found it very unusual for Russian soldier to wear Syrian uniform, somehow i cant find legit enough reason. In fact by what we here call PS ("Pravilo službe") discarting your service uniform is probably for firing squad
He's not wearing a Syrian uniform, it's the old "NATO/Les" pattern that was fairly popular 15 years ago (mainly in MVD though).
As to why... could be they're issuing some to blend more with the syrians uniforms?
Harder to get sniped if they can't tell who's Russian and who's Syrian. Easier to make joint units and hide yourself from the locals too (low footprint is key to counter-insurgency something the US still doesn't understand and Russia learned the hard way).
no, the Lyes is not like that. It's clearly a syrian clothing. Why so surprising? Russians in 2008 wore a shitoad of georgian MARPAT ripoff when they got the chances to do so.
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cracker wrote:Bidoul wrote:Militarov wrote:
However i found it very unusual for Russian soldier to wear Syrian uniform, somehow i cant find legit enough reason. In fact by what we here call PS ("Pravilo službe") discarting your service uniform is probably for firing squad
He's not wearing a Syrian uniform, it's the old "NATO/Les" pattern that was fairly popular 15 years ago (mainly in MVD though).
As to why... could be they're issuing some to blend more with the syrians uniforms?
Harder to get sniped if they can't tell who's Russian and who's Syrian. Easier to make joint units and hide yourself from the locals too (low footprint is key to counter-insurgency something the US still doesn't understand and Russia learned the hard way).
no, the Lyes is not like that. It's clearly a syrian clothing. Why so surprising? Russians in 2008 wore a shitoad of georgian MARPAT ripoff when they got the chances to do so.
Someone care to explain the snow?
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franco wrote:cracker wrote:Bidoul wrote:Militarov wrote:
However i found it very unusual for Russian soldier to wear Syrian uniform, somehow i cant find legit enough reason. In fact by what we here call PS ("Pravilo službe") discarting your service uniform is probably for firing squad
He's not wearing a Syrian uniform, it's the old "NATO/Les" pattern that was fairly popular 15 years ago (mainly in MVD though).
As to why... could be they're issuing some to blend more with the syrians uniforms?
Harder to get sniped if they can't tell who's Russian and who's Syrian. Easier to make joint units and hide yourself from the locals too (low footprint is key to counter-insurgency something the US still doesn't understand and Russia learned the hard way).
no, the Lyes is not like that. It's clearly a syrian clothing. Why so surprising? Russians in 2008 wore a shitoad of georgian MARPAT ripoff when they got the chances to do so.
Someone care to explain the snow?
I belive that photo is from Second Chechen war.
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This particular part starts at: 2:40
Video that includes some footage from Russian maintenance hangar in Latakia.
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Ah, component level repairs, those were the daysMilitarov wrote:
This particular part starts at: 2:40
Video that includes some footage from Russian maintenance hangar in Latakia.
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JohninMK wrote:Ah, component level repairs, those were the daysMilitarov wrote:
This particular part starts at: 2:40
Video that includes some footage from Russian maintenance hangar in Latakia.
Have atm two LG monitors on table next to me disassembled, waiting for capacitors to arrive
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Good find re: maintenance hangar footage...