Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

Dima wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:there's no fire from the ground in there, and as for getting lucky, that's golden bullet kind of lucky.

That is pretty confident.
How far can you see to be so sure there was absolutely no fire from the ground?
I can see only whats inside the FOV of the camera and the hill, nothing beyond it. Moreover the camera zooms in only after it sees the explosion.

Every AA bullet that hits a low flying a/c is a golden bullet as well.

ult wrote:"Elimination of tanker vehicle columns, which were transporting oil products in the interests of terrorist armed groups"

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Dima wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:there's no fire from the ground in there, and as for getting lucky, that's golden bullet kind of lucky.

That is pretty confident.
How far can you see to be so sure there was absolutely no fire from the ground?
I can see only whats inside the FOV of the camera and the hill, nothing beyond it. Moreover the camera zooms in only after it sees the explosion.

Every AA bullet that hits a low flying a/c is a golden bullet as well.

It's not the actual recording sound, the real footage indicates loud boom without ZSU fire. Lemme get it for you.

Bidoul wrote:The really scary part is that we have some video with missiles flying overhead, the VKS videos showing various planes in formation (including the Tu-22M) doing carpet bombing runs but nothing from the ground...

Did they blast the entire internet/electricity gird?

IS there no Allah ackbar shouting cameraman left alive?

Fred333 wrote:Unbelievable, it is stuff like this that makes me believe the US (+ allies) has been hardly trying to combat IS at all, because it is a convenient group for them in some ways.

Edit: any context to these videos? Are these ISIS trucks? Nusra? Formerly seen alive?

Werewolf wrote:Why is there not a single human next to those tankers? Looks like a plain desert with nothing in remote distance trucks are all obviously unoccupied since noone tried to flee from the bombs.

Dima wrote:

Fred333 wrote:Unbelievable, it is stuff like this that makes me believe the US (+ allies) has been hardly trying to combat IS at all, because it is a convenient group for them in some ways.

Edit: any context to these videos? Are these ISIS trucks? Nusra? Formerly seen alive?

It was always an open secret who was behind this. Its just that the western MSM just dont talk about it.
It has to be ISIS coz they are the main 'self-financing' oil businessmen in the area.

If the French and US have started bombing the Oil facilities (does not mean oil tankers) among other civial infrastrusture like power house, dams, bridges etc....it can only mean one thing - SAA is advancing and gaining ground with the help of allies. These strikes are only meant to put pressure on the Syrian Govt and Military by denying them these facilities once the area is captured by the SAA.

Dima wrote:
If the French and US have started bombing the Oil facilities (does not mean oil tankers) among other civial infrastrusture like power house, dams, bridges etc....it can only mean one thing - SAA is advancing and gaining ground with the help of allies. These strikes are only meant to put pressure on the Syrian Govt and Military by denying them these facilities once the area is captured by the SAA.

Fred333 wrote:except these strikes seem to be done by the Russians, or am I being misled by the captions?

Dima wrote:

Fred333 wrote:except these strikes seem to be done by the Russians, or am I being misled by the captions?

Yes, it is most probably a Russian strike...but then they had no other option but to strike the local sources financing the war. But what looks awkward is the insane amount of trucks on the ground and its getting bombed from air...the video does show it is not possible to cover everything, better stuff would be the use of Su-25/24 and Mi-24/35 with rocket pods...but that is taking way too much risk in a sector where SAA/Russian ground presence is negligible.

JohninMK wrote:Infrastructure scorched earth policy. Just like Iraq and Libya so they have had plenty of practice. Mind you, in the past it seems to have been done partly in the expectation that US contractors would pick up the reconstruction business. Fat chance here.

Mind you, very surprised that the RuAF hit that tank farm. Trucks yes, but infrastructure?

JohninMK wrote:No rest for the wicked, another day more fire from the heavens. Looks like a major end of line stock clearance sale, before the stuff had to be scrapped. My highlight.

MOSCOW, November 18. /TASS/. Aircraft of the Russian air group in Syria on Wednesday delivered a second massive strike at Islamic State terrorist group facilities in the Syrian provinces of Raqqa, Deir-ez-Zor, Aleppo and Idlib, the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the Russian Armed Forces General Staff, Col. Gen. Andrey Kartapolov, said.

"Russia’s Aerospace Forces delivered a second massive strike at armed formations of terrorists in Syria at 05:00 a.m. Moscow Time," Kartapolov said at a briefing for journalists, adding that from 05:00 a.m. to 05:50 a.m., a squadron of Tu-22M3 long-range bomber aircraft delivered strikes at six Islamic State facilities in the provinces of Raqqa and Deir-ez-Zor. The targets hit were ammunition and armaments depots, hardware deployment sites, training camps of militants as well as workshops producing explosives. "From 09:00 to 09:10, Tu-160 strategic weapons carriers fired from the territory of the Russian Federation 12 air-launched cruise missiles at Islamic State facilities in the provinces of Aleppo and Idlib," the colonel general said. Three command posts, two armaments and ammunition depots and a field camp of militants were destroyed as a result. Throughout the day, strike aircraft planned 100 sorties from Khmeimim airfield at 190 facilities of various terrorist groups. As of 16:00, 59 sorties were made and 149 facilities destroyed.

"A few minutes ago, a squadron of Tu-22M3 long-range bombers delivered a second strike at six IS facilities in the provinces of Rakka and Deir-ez-Zor," Kartapolov said. He said targets for destruction were a communications node, IS ammunition and armaments depots, a mini-plant producing explosive devices and car bombs and a militant training base.

"The delivery of air strikes continues in line with the approved plan. To ensure security of flights, the time of strikes and aircraft transit corridors are beforehand reported to representatives of the international coalition," Kartapolov said.

Fred333 wrote:Does anyone else have the feeling this war will be over soon now?

ult wrote:Are you seriously discussing who's airstrikes are those? The video is published on the official Russian Ministry of Defense channel...

Werewolf wrote:That will not end soon, as long there are still the regimes that support and finance them. That is their daily bread to spread terror. If you want to destroy terrorism destroy the countries or their capabilities to finance them. No money no spread of terrorism. ISIS is not financing itself by oil trade that is just a reasoning to give the stupid population why they are so spread around to whitewash the fact that US, Israel, France, Turkey, Saudis, Kuwait and who not are financing their mercenaries.



To sell oil in such quantities it needs more than just some illiterate terrorists to sustain the supply chain, direct and admin the financials with accounts that are under the SWIFT, to have the personal at raffineries work in line, to sustain the maintenance and find distribution to customers. That is beyond capability of that scum.

Werewolf wrote:That will not end soon, as long there are still the regimes that support and finance them. That is their daily bread to spread terror. If you want to destroy terrorism destroy the countries or their capabilities to finance them. No money no spread of terrorism. ISIS is not financing itself by oil trade that is just a reasoning to give the stupid population why they are so spread around to whitewash the fact that US, Israel, France, Turkey, Saudis, Kuwait and who not are financing their mercenaries.



To sell oil in such quantities it needs more than just some illiterate terrorists to sustain the supply chain, direct and admin the financials with accounts that are under the SWIFT, to have the personal at raffineries work in line, to sustain the maintenance and find distribution to customers. That is beyond capability of that scum.