Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #4

Anyone knows the difference in bomb munition capabilities
between the Su-34 and Tu-22m in KAB-250 and KAB-500 bombs and Kab-1500?

How much bombs of each one each plane can drop ?

Here is the the thing.  Syria under Assad or anyone else can grant Kurds special autonomy in Syria.  So it stays part of Syria but they govern themselves more or less.  Much like Chechens and others in Russia.  This would be a good move for Syria as a whole and bad news for the Turks regardless.

I did a quick update on the website regarding about the recent strikes:

(Video)RuAF pounds ISIS with cruise missile strike

Any suggestions, improvements or such I should add in?

Vann7 wrote:

Anyone knows the difference in bomb munition capabilities
between the Su-34 and Tu-22m  in KAB-250 and KAB-500 bombs and Kab-1500?

How much bombs of each one each plane can drop ?

60 or 70 x FAB-250 if I remember correctly. In any case, the Tu-22M3 can carry significantly more... in internal bay + a few more on 5 external pylons if needed






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The FOAB 'might' be tested in Syria according to K. Sivkov, president of the academy for geopolitics



http://warfiles.ru/show-100451-rossiya-mozhet-primenit-v-sirii-sverhmoschnuyu-bombu-moschnostyu-40-tonn.html

Cyberspec wrote:

Vann7 wrote:

Anyone knows the difference in bomb munition capabilities
between the Su-34 and Tu-22m  in KAB-250 and KAB-500 bombs and Kab-1500?

How much bombs of each one each plane can drop ?

60 or 70 x FAB-250 if I remember correctly. In any case, the Tu-22M3 can carry significantly more... in internal bay + a few more on 5 external pylons if needed



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The FOAB 'might' be tested in Syria according to K. Sivkov, president of the academy for geopolitics



http://warfiles.ru/show-100451-rossiya-mozhet-primenit-v-sirii-sverhmoschnuyu-bombu-moschnostyu-40-tonn.html

nice... thanks for the info..

Hopefully Russia will use many FOAB hundreds if possible.. lol   or many dozens
and drop it on them.

Update.. found something..

Su-34


Tu-22m



Its that information is correct the difference is huge.. in Kab-500 alone
the Su-34 carry apparently only x6..  while the Tu-22m up to 30x..    

This is the plane Russia needs to produce.. in real mass. screw pak-da ..
just make a new modern stealthy version of Tu-22m with fully digital avionics and heavy
jamming capabilities and you have a real winner. as a bonus the backfire is supersonic.

So if those charts are correct one Tu-22m can drop as many kab-500 as FIVE Su-34.  

So Five Tu-22m planes in Syria will have the same fire power of 25 x Su-34.
but with way more range .and the flexibility to carry way more weapons including
nukes.

The aircraft enthusiasts and spotters at Scramble.nl, claim there is over 20 Su-24's in Latakia...possibly a 24 aircraft regiment

Following Su-24 based at Latakia.

6980th Air Base - Chelyabisk Shagol (unit 69806) (10 Su-24M, 4 Su-24MR off .

04 white (белый) RF-90943 0615332 Su-24M/pic TASS
05 white (белый) RF-90942 0615334 Su-24M 43-й ОМШАП/RT TBTs
07 white (белый) Su-24/Defence Ministry
08 white RF-9040 Su-24/Djoker
16 white (белый) RF-93812 Su-24M/RT
18 white Su-24
24 white Su-24/RT
25 white RF-90933 Su-24M/pic TASS
26 white RF-90932 0615326 Su-24/RT pic TASS
27 white RF-90981 Su-24/RT
71 white (белый) Su-24M/RT (a Su-24M2?)/defence ministry
77 white (белый)
80 white RF-90xx1 Su-24/17 Nov defence ministry
83 white (белый)/defence ministry
RF-95197/pic TASS
RF-95199/pic TASS
0715323 Su-24M

277th BAP – Komsomolsk Khurba (8 Su-24M2 off 4).
72 white (белый) RF-95103 1341611 Su-24M2/Djoker
73? white (белый) RF-95104? 1341612 Su-24M2
74 white (белый) RF-95105 1341613 Su-24M2/pic TASS
75 white (белый) RF-95106 1341614 Su-24M2/RT+day 24
76 white (белый) RF-95107 1341615 Su-24M2/RT defence ministry
77 white (белый) RF-95108 1341616 Su-24M2/day 24
78 white (белый) RF-95109 1341617 Su-24M2/RT day 29

http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=117582&start=75

Looking forward to seeing more videos of the strategic bombers hitting stuff with their massive payloads. Anyway, I saw a tweet recently from a journalist that spoke to Al-Jazeera on the degree of anonymity. The journalist said that the Surrender Monkeys (French) were hitting targets abandoned by ISIS a while ago. I may have gotten some of the details mixed up but that was the general gist of it. I don't have a lot of spare time so I can't find that tweet.

Russian mod tweeted that they will cooperate with French in their air attacks as soon as their aircraft carrier arrives. So pretty much establish joint control. This is very popular among french, look at this poll.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualites/2015/11/17/01001-20151117QCMWWW00145-etes-vous-favorable-a-l-elargissement-de-la-coalition-contre-daech-a-la-russie.php
Well I do hope those tragedies make two countries bond closer. Back in Soviet times french culture was something we used to adore. Movies, music, arts. Now it is in decline, but still plenty of Russians my age still have warm feeling for french.

Next strikes today (+12 long-range cruise missiles): http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12066265@egNews



Possibly the Tu-22M rain caught on video

max steel wrote:Possibly the Tu-22M rain caught on video  

Nothing escapes the cameras these days

Cyberspec wrote:

max steel wrote:Possibly the Tu-22M rain caught on video  

Nothing escapes the cameras these days

Interesting that the cluster of bombs was still very close together after their trip to ground level. Quite different to a B-52 pattern.

Using the Tu-22M has a small logistics benefit, especially if heavily loaded. It reduces the amount of airborne munitions that have to be put through the probably pretty congested Syrian Express supply chain, allowing more capacity for artillery ammo.

max steel wrote:Sorry but Kurds won't be getting any separate state . In Vienna talks it was made clear Syria will not be partitioned

So pretty much US just playing them. Russia was always supporter of Kurds from Soviet Union era.

As of Nov. 17th:

Over these 48 days, the Russian aviation group has made 2,289 sorties and delivered 4,111 missile strikes on the terrorists’ main infrastructure facilities, munitions depots and manpower locations.

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50714

and for the mathematically challenged:

2289/48 = 47.7 sorties per day

4111/48 = 85.6 missile strikes per day

4111/2289 = 1.8 missile strikes per sortie

Scalps...

Official says 160 Russian IS fighters killed in Syria

http://news.yahoo.com/official-says-160-russian-fighters-killed-syria-103312696.html

New videos from Ru MoD.

Russian bomber fleet is really going loco.

Long range aviation and Caspian Fleet, two most boring post in Russian Armed Forces no longer...

jeeezz this is just military porn...russia really took a leaf out of Nato's playbook and running a very streamlined weapon sales show, the folks at the pentagon must be butthurt that Russia is beating them at their own propaganda game

Very good PR. This should make the "new" Russian military even more popular among Russians (and non-Russians alike)?

John McCain still wanted for comment.

It would be nice if they could deploy the Tu-22M closer, that way they could fly at full load (with external pylons) and make two strike per sortie.

Turkish intelligence chief: Putin's intervention in Syria is against Islam and international law, ISIS is a reality and we are optimistic about the future




Ankara--- Hakan Fidan, the head of Turkey's National Intelligence Organization, known by the MİT acronym, has drawn a lot of attention and criticism for his controversial comments about ISIS.

Mr. Hakan Fidan, Turkish President's staunchest ally, condemned Russian military intervention in Syria, accusing Moscow of trying to 'smother' Syria's Islamist revolution and serious breach of United Nations law.

“ISIS is a reality and we have to accept that we cannot eradicate a well-organized and popular establishment such as the Islamic State; therefore I urge my western colleagues to revise their mindset about Islamic political currents, put aside their cynical mentalité and thwart Vladimir Putin's plans to crush Syrian Islamist revolutionaries,” Anadolu News Agency quoted Mr. Fidan as saying on Sunday.

Fidan further added that in order to deal with the vast number of foreign Jihadists craving to travel to Syria, it is imperative that ISIS must set up a consulate or at least a political office in Istanbul. He underlined that it is Turkey’s firm belief to provide medical care for all injured people fleeing Russian ruthless airstrikes regardless of their political or religious affiliation.

Recently as the fierce clashes between Russian army and ISIS terrorists raging across the war-torn Syria, countless number of ISIS injured fighters enter the Turkish territory and are being admitted in the military hospitals namely those in Hatay Province. Over the last few days, the Syrian army with the support of Russian air cover could fend off ISIS forces in strategic provinces of Homs and Hama.

Emile Hokayem, a Washington-based Middle East analyst said that Turkey's Erdoğan and his oil-rich Arab allies have dual agendas in the war on terror and as a matter of fact they are supplying the Islamist militants with weapons and money, thus Russian intervention is considered a devastating setback for their efforts to overthrow Syrian secular President Assad.

Hokayem who was speaking via Skype from Washington, D.C. highlighted the danger of Turkish-backed terrorist groups and added that what is happening in Syria cannot be categorized as a genuine and popular revolution against dictatorship but rather it is a chaos orchestrated by Erdoğan who is dreaming to revive this ancestor's infamous Ottoman Empire.

http://www.awdnews.com/top-news/turkish-intelligence-chief-putin-s-intervention-in-syria-is-against-islam-and-international-law,-isis-is-a-reality-and-we-are-optimistic-about-the-future