Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

kvs wrote:Freaking photoshop.  The lighting is all wrong and the "Russian sailor" looks like some ISIS black widow.

Airbornewolf wrote:

franco wrote:French are moving their aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf and away from Syria.

http://tass.ru/en/world/841768

Besides the big "WTF?!?" reaction within NATO on Turkey's shootdown of the Russian bomber. some people in EU millitary's, including German and British Millitary intelligence do not trust the redeployment of Turkish forces near the Turkey/Syria border. Everyone also within NATO knows Turkey deliberatly shot down that SU-24, and honestly believe Erdogan might do something stupid again like invading northern Syria and shooting at Russian aircraft operating there.


There is serious doubt about what Erdogan will do next within NATO. France withdraws its Carrier so in the case of an exchange of hostility's between Russia and Turkey, the carrier will not be near it.  Besides "solidarity with Turkey", NATO does not want to be drawn in with Turkey firing at the Russians and the Russians, in their full right launch retaliatory attacks while NATO assets are in the area.

If NATO wanted to do its usual sabre-rattling, it would have already begun shipping in heavy weaponry. instead NATO does exactly the opposite.

Its not the only action of NATO withdrawing its asset's of the area where missiles will fly, the Incirlik AFB suspended its manned flights into Syria as to not get caught in the crossfire with trigger-happy Turks potentially shooting again at the Russians. Germany's Patriot's are still  in Turkey but they are still shipped back to Germany. Im not sure if its true but my friend of mine currently deployed in Iraq with the Dutch F-16's says there where talks of the possibility of emergency evacuations of the Incirlik AFB in Turkey of Personell when it would come to an exchange of hostility'. as Dutch F-16's would be among aircraft send as escorts of C-17's and C-130's flying away with "anybody not needed to maintain the security of the Airbase". as he implied: "any threats to aircraft, including "allies getting trigger happy in the heat of the moment".

and next to this there are dozens of more indications NATO really does not want any part in Turkey's screwup. and like i said, NATO really believes in the Possibility of Erdogan doing something stupid again to provoke the Russians.

Cyberspec wrote:

kvs wrote:Freaking photoshop.  The lighting is all wrong and the "Russian sailor" looks like some ISIS black widow.

I think you might be right....I'm no expert though, it just doesn't look right

par far wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:Rumors all over the place about Turkish troops entering Iraq right now....

They are apparently in Mosul to train forces fighting isis terrorists(that's a big lie), they are there because they are afraid Iraq might ask Russia to use's it air force in Iraq.

http://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2015/12/04/130-turkish-troops-in-mosul-to-give-training

franco wrote:

Neutrality wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:Rumors all over the place about Turkish troops entering Iraq right now....

I'd like to see some sources.

Apparently they sent in 130 soldiers to assist in training the Iraqi Kurds.  

GarryB wrote:

Comments on this post are:

"Unbelievable! Very dangerous...they are giving Turkey an Excuse to ban them from the Straights!"

"If this is real, it's another RUS endangerment of TUR and its sovereignty."

"Quite the image of provocation."

What I call it is once bitten twice shy... why would you not deploy defences when passing near enemy airspace where so recently you were fired upon without warning...

They have sent cruisers through that waterway with missiles able to shoot down enemy aircraft 250km distant, but some men with shoulder fired MANPADS are a provocation?

WTF?

Werewolf wrote:What ship is that?

Because there are much bigger weapons you turks should be concerned than a flimsy MANPAD whos range is far lower than anything russian smallest ships can spew.

It would be actually very funny if that guy with the MANPAD would be spotted on Udaloy with all its impressive weaponary and the turks would bitch about that little MANPAD.

It is like some "knight" is looking into the throat of a Dragon and bitching about a tiny dagger that is stuck between his 1 meter long teeth.

GarryB wrote:

Comments on this post are:

"Unbelievable! Very dangerous...they are giving Turkey an Excuse to ban them from the Straights!"

"If this is real, it's another RUS endangerment of TUR and its sovereignty."

"Quite the image of provocation."

What I call it is once bitten twice shy... why would you not deploy defences when passing near enemy airspace where so recently you were fired upon without warning...

They have sent cruisers through that waterway with missiles able to shoot down enemy aircraft 250km distant, but some men with shoulder fired MANPADS are a provocation?

WTF?

GarryB wrote:

Freaking photoshop. The lighting is all wrong and the "Russian sailor" looks like some ISIS black widow.

Actually lighting is just right... a sensible MANPAD operator doesn't stand in the sunshine... he needs to be high up with a good field of view but if he stands in a shadow he has no sunlight in his eyes and would be rather more difficult for the enemy air power to see and target directly.

Militarov wrote:



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kvs wrote:

Militarov wrote:



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Top: looks better but still easily a photoshop

Bottom: Russian sailor carrying something that is not a MANPAD.  

Seriously people, a MANPAD is like a condom against a blowtorch in this situation.   This is clearly a Turkish propaganda ploy and not
some retarded Russian attempt to "defend themselves" by send a message.

par far wrote:TURKEY INVADED SYRIA, CAPTURED TAL ZIYAB


http://southfront.org/turkey-invaded-syria-captured-tal-ziyab/

par far wrote:This explains, why NATO is sending in troops and equipment, into Syria, they want Russia to be involved in a long conflict(they could not get this in Ukraine). If Russia was smart they would up the support(get Iran to do the same) and take key parts of Syria and get the Iraqi government to let Russia use it's air force in Iraq(tell the Iraqi's NATO won't do shit for you), this way NATO can not get a foothold in Iraq to launch attacks on Syria. Russia also needs to support the Houthis more in Yemen(this should happen secretly), if Russia can put pressure on Saudi Arabia, then one of US allies in the Middle East may just collapse.

After watching this video, I am very scared and panicking like hell(my arms are shaken), NATO is taking parts of Syria(don't trust any NATO country).


http://southfront.org/foreign-policy-diary-escalation-in-syria-leads-to-a-global-war/

GarryB wrote:

Freaking photoshop. The lighting is all wrong and the "Russian sailor" looks like some ISIS black widow.

Actually lighting is just right... a sensible MANPAD operator doesn't stand in the sunshine... he needs to be high up with a good field of view but if he stands in a shadow he has no sunlight in his eyes and would be rather more difficult for the enemy air power to see and target directly.