Rodion_Romanovic Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:46 am
Vladimir79 wrote: PapaDragon wrote:
What I find especially pathetic is how they just welded some cheap plate they had lying around and spray painted new name
Could you possibly give fewer sh*ts?
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The biggest joke is installing Chinese diesels that breakdown in 3 days because Zvezda is too incompetent to increase production. I must ask them if they are tooling every piece by hand as no engine manufacture is that fucking slow.
the company was not producing that many engines before, so it's possible that they did not have the personnel and / or the facilities to produce at a higher rate. Increasing rate of production may mean investing and building new production facilities, hiring and training new people,etc.
Furthermore an engine company does not produce everything on its own. in the west most parts are subcontracted to smaller companies/suppliers and the engine manufacturer build only the bigger parts and test and assembled the final product.
Maybe one of the suppliers is the bottleneck. This would mean that they would have also to modify the whole supply chain. This is the problem caused by underinvestment in the sector for decades.
Maybe a solution could have been to review all the manufacturing processes and supply chain, including all the suppliers and their capabilities, with some competent officials from the russian government, and see which of these companies would have needed special help or funding, maybe also via part nationalisation, to ensure an higher rate of production.
It is more than possible that there was also quite a bit of incompetence, corruption and incorrect behavior from the company management, but it is only an aggravating factor, not the main reason.
To be fully capable in all engine needs for all ships classes and sizes is not something that can be reached in 3/4 years. Something has to be prioritized and something else instead will be done later.
Concerning buyan-m engines, as far as I understand there is at the moment no russian naval diesel engine model currently in production that is compatible with those ships, and the germans broke the contract and refused to supply their engines. The Chineses had in production a licenced older version of that german engine, so it was the only possible solution without completely redesign the ships (and maybe scrap the hulls already part built). Maybe they can study those engines, reverse engineer them and try to improve and start production, but it is a process that will take years and it was not the priority, since they had to concentrate on many other products (zvezda engine manufacturer is also building the reductor gear for the gorshkov class frigates).