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    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:52 pm





    1.2% of New York City's Entire Population is Now Confirmed to be Infected with the COVID-19 Virus.


    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/over-1-in-100-new-york-residents-have-now-tested-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-BB12zJ98?ocid=SKY2DHP



    Highest rate of confirmed infection in North America, and higher than it is even in Italy and Spain.

    Perhaps it is because much more testing for the COVID-19 virus infections is being done in New York City than elsewhere?





    New York City's Hospitals are Running Out of Personal Protection Equipment & Attire.


    Our federal government has completely failed its health care workers.


    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/nyc-officials-ask-for-rain-ponchos-as-ppe-supplies-run-low/ar-BB12D8TY?ocid=SKY2DHP



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    Bernie Sanders not becoming a president of the U.S.A. is a disaster for U.S.A. and its people. His presidential campaign had really bad luck of encountering this whole COVID-19 outbreak, which really took out the proverbial "wind out of his sails." Very sad.



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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:38 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:

    New York City's Hospitals are Running Out of Personal Protection Equipment & Attire.

    Our federal government has completely failed its health care workers.

    Bernie Sanders not becoming a president of the U.S.A. is a disaster for U.S.A. and its people. His presidential campaign had really bad luck of  encountering this whole COVID-19 outbreak, which really took out the proverbial "wind out of his sails." Very sad.

    So have most western Governments let down their health care workers.

    Luck had nothing to do with it, Bernie was dead in the water before CORVID-19 hit. The Dem Party didn't want him. He was a noisy distraction. Like last time. No doubt he got another good deal out of it for withdrawing gracefully.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:42 am

    USS FDR alongside in Guam now has 500+ with the virus and 1 dead.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:07 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:...Bernie Sanders not becoming a president of the U.S.A. is a disaster for U.S.A. and its people. His presidential campaign had really bad luck of encountering this whole COVID-19 outbreak, which really took out the proverbial "wind out of his sails." Very sad.

    Sanders was never serious about running for president, he was just playing revolutionary for shits and giggles (retirement crisis, most people just hire a stripper)

    He never fought back against DNC and Biden (or Clinton last time) and he endorsed their candidacies while he was still supposedly campaigning himself, it's hilarious (he said in a TV interview that Biden can beat Trump, like WTF?)

    Dude never wanted the job to begin with, had he wanted it he would have ran as independent 4 years ago when Clinton and Democratic Party rigged the primaries and got caught red handed but instead he just bent over like a good little puppy he is

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:05 am





    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/america-doesnt-need-chinese-help-with-covid-19/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=9d79d48203-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_14_10_34&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-9d79d48203-31607385&mc_cid=9d79d48203&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/balis-mysterious-immunity-to-covid-19/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=9d79d48203-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_14_10_34&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-9d79d48203-31607385&mc_cid=9d79d48203&mc_eid=5455568640
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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:01 am

    Sanders was never serious about running for president, he was just playing revolutionary for shits and giggles (retirement crisis, most people just hire a stripper)

    He never fought back against DNC and Biden (or Clinton last time) and he endorsed their candidacies while he was still supposedly campaigning himself, it's hilarious (he said in a TV interview that Biden can beat Trump, like WTF?)

    Dude never wanted the job to begin with, had he wanted it he would have ran as independent 4 years ago when Clinton and Democratic Party rigged the primaries and got caught red handed but instead he just bent over like a good little puppy he is

    I said as much on a Russia Today article... Sanders was a Trojan horse that gave the illusion of choice and variety while at the same time being a rich white really really old guy... like Biden and Clinton. Clinton and Biden would do well in the Republican party and are pro war and really don't practise what they preach... the way he flipped over to get his tummy rubbed both times to try to unite against Trump suggests it was all bullshit anyway.

    Americans can't have good healthcare or living wages... or respect.
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    Post  nomadski Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:44 pm

    @ thethingnextdoor

    As johninmk said, we need airtight. Particles are airborne. Especially indoors, without air circulation. Therefore avoid small rooms or taxi with window closed or bus with window closed etc. I have designed my own DIY gas tight cheap anti - virus mask. The trick is to close nostrils with swimming clips. This stops inhalation or exhalation through nose. Then you need to go and look at the wardrobe in your house. Don't buy any fabrics. Since you need to test this fabric, by folding over once, and breathing by mouth . You should be just able to inhale or exhale through mouth only, through this fabric. The best fabrics are fine woven and likely to be from woman's garments. Then you cut out two rectangle sections, to cover mouth area only. The corners may have to be clipped slightly to conform to shape of face or chin. Then you simply sew the ends, and attach two elastic loops to fit around ears. Once this is done, you can place a cotton pad, in the centre. Where you will be inhaling or exhaling through mouth. The  cotton is type that women use to remove makeup. You may have to thin out this pad slightly, so that you can just about inhale or exhale. This cotton filter, is as good as any industrial filter. Down to micron. Is airtight. Better than all surgical mask. And less cumbersome than gas mask. You can make at home. And use for long periods. But must learn to use mouth to breathe. Like swimmer. Can dispose of cotton and wash afterwards.

    @ GarryB

    You are right. But putting on a motorcycle helmet, will allow air inside. Best to put two cotton buds in ear. And wear plastic safety goggles. Cheaper and airtight. Available from local store. When home, remove and dispose of cotton buds in ears. Wash goggles. Wash face and eyes and ears.

    @ Regular

    I simply spray my outer clothes with disinfectant. Then allow to dry. Keeping the same clothes for going out. This way the concentration of disinfectant has built up in my clothes. Wearing plastic not practical. I also dip and spray my shoes in disinfectant. As well as all packages coming into house. Alternatively you can put clothes in hot cycle wash in washing machine.

    @ odinof ossetia

    The official numbers, can not be relied on. In the UK , as I guessed before, the old victims are not even counted as corona victims. Nor are people who died at home. Most governments will want to underestimate numbers. This is for stopping public panic. In the USA, the situation may be the same. But this time suspicion of inflating numbers.


    @ Johninmk

    How effective is ozone machine? Is it cheap? Will disinfection be more effective, in closed room? Any data?

    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/157645/IRGC-unveils-device-for-smart-detection-of-coronavirus



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    Post  par far Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:11 pm

    Everytime someone who is famous (or anyone for that matter) says that this whole virus thing is being made too big of a deal, they are attacked by the mainstream media, why is that?
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    Post  Hole Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:38 pm

    One reason: Clooney was on the side of the poor maidan demonstrators who struggled for democracy in their country.
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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:34 pm

    We will only know about the "power grab" by big bad government after the Covid-19 crisis is over. As of now it is all tin foil hat
    paranoia. All the clowns who think that two weeks of quarantine at home are equivalent to years of Gulag incarceration are
    worse than retarded.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:35 pm

    Interesting measure by China:

    "Now in China, holographic buttons to combat current and future disease spreading"

    https://twitter.com/Garou_Hidalgo/status/1241359720046301184


    Also NATO solidarity:

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    Post  Vann7 Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:02 am

    par far wrote:Everytime someone who is famous (or anyone for that matter) says that this whole virus thing is being made too big of a deal, they are attacked by the mainstream media, why is that?

    because the pandemic event in US is a fake crisis.. and probably UK too.
    with that i mean ,that the crisis is an inside job ,and that its numbers are artificially inflated
    and will not be surprised if their covid-19 claims are something else.. influenza or something more
    easier to control.. and that most people in US ,specially the military were already vaccinated for covid-19 since 2018..

    The fake media from anglo powers.. like US,UK,Canada and Australia is almost every day also
    accusing China of being behind the virus.. and demanding they pay the world for this pandemic event..

    In my opinion only the nations , that were fighting trump sanctions and not following them.. are the nations
    that face a real crisis.. this should explain.. why american planes or NATO is totally missing in action
    helping its allies ,are not sending not even a bottle of water to germany ,france and italy.. but romania that is way farther receive aid.. lol1

    Why no one find extremely bizarre to see China ,Russia and Cuba aiding NATO in europe with humanitarian aid..
    with face mask ,with oxygen ventilators.. with doctors.. while at the same time NATO security alliance ,US,UK totally absent from helping Europe.. Shocked from a life threatening experience.. it will have been a major opportunity for US to get all nations in europe aligned with them... but nothing... it seems there is a major lack of trust in europe from americans or british.. US sent face mask to israel.. however.. so there is something going on..as if there is a major split in relations since covid-19 began.. and it can't be a coincidence..

    regardless of what it is..
    we will see a very different world after covid-19 pandemic problem ends..
    and many business will go bankrupt. .specially those connected with traveling ,tourism and international
    sport events.. it is my strong believe covid-19 was a bio weapon attack ,and so nations in europe had to knows this.. once europe recover ,this could be the last nail in the coffin of NATO and US and europe relations..
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:18 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Sanders was never serious about running for president, he was just playing revolutionary for shits and giggles (retirement crisis, most people just hire a stripper)

    He never fought back against DNC and Biden (or Clinton last time) and he endorsed their candidacies while he was still supposedly campaigning himself, it's hilarious (he said in a TV interview that Biden can beat Trump, like WTF?)

    Dude never wanted the job to begin with, had he wanted it he would have ran as independent 4 years ago when Clinton and Democratic Party rigged the primaries and got caught red handed but instead he just bent over like a good little puppy he is

    I said as much on a Russia Today article... Sanders was a Trojan horse that gave the illusion of choice and variety while at the same time being a rich white really really old guy... like Biden and Clinton. Clinton and Biden would do well in the Republican party and are pro war and really don't practise what they preach... the way he flipped over to get his tummy rubbed both times to try to unite against Trump suggests it was all bullshit anyway.

    Americans can't have good healthcare or living wages... or respect.


    Clinton and Biden were, and still are, nothing like Bernie Sanders.


    Also, Sanders is Jewish while these two are White Anglo-Saxon Protestants.


    And everybody in the U.S.A. knows that in order to become a president you need to be either a Democrat or a Republican and not an Independent.

    Theoretically Sanders could have started as an Independent, but if he did he would have absolutely no chance of winning.



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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:28 am

    I agree, and suspect that was totally the point of having Sanders there... to make it seem like there was variety... to make it seem there was a choice.

    Sanders was actually rather popular with a lot of Americans and I think after he got screwed in 2016 by the Clinton mafia... I suspect the pro Sanders democrats probably voted Trump just to make sure Hilary didn't win.

    Not all Sanders voters liked him... some of them probably just hated Hilary more than they hated Trump.

    I believe the Simpsons said it best after a conspiricy was revealed when the Democrat and the Republican nominees both turned out to be aliens... they taunted Homer by saying you have to vote for one of them... voting for an independent is just throwing your vote away...

    America calls itself the greatest democracy in the world but even communist systems sometimes have alternatives to the leadership...
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:42 am


    Trump , The Pentagon , the entire american big corporate media , they are now
    openly pushing for the conspiracy that covid-19 came from a chinese lab..

    but it is very possible they are only throwing that story for testing the waters...
    to see how their allies will react.. if they will stand with US on this or if they will not..

    The fact that US is not yet officially accused china bio labs of being behind the virus..
    and that no european country like germany ,france or italy.spain. or asian allies like japan ,taiwan ,south korea
    have taken a position ,over this.. can only mean ,they are trying to get a world coalition to accuse china
    of "facing an accident" in the bio lab.. and later seek a major compensation $$ of trillions of dollars for their
    claims of being they to blame for the "Accident"

    So this are signals ,clear signals ,that the world will never be the same again....

    US have 3 options..
    1)continue to push the story that (china lab is not blame) ,even if most of europe non anglo powers,don't agree to support this claim.. and become isolated..

    2)push the story , and get europe to join their condemnation of china..start a new cold war again china
    and demands impossible to pay reparations damages ,which they will not pay a cent. if this case happen ,the world will split in half.. the west vs east.. can't imagine how can europe agree with such a thing , ending commercial jobs with china and russia..

    3)back down the story... if europe refuse to join their claims... Europe continue business with china..
    and Russia.. and call trump accussations ridiculous..
    this scenario if happen. could be a major blow for US imperialism.. and a major failure to isolate
    china from the world with their virus claims have failed totally.

    So it seems the US gov wants to test the waters.. into who is with america and who is not..
    and force europe to choose ,either do business with russia and china .. or so business with US.

    The "investigations" about whether or not china labs are to blame.. is nothing more than the start
    of a game ,trying to pressure the world to stand in the US side.. or join russia,china side.

    https://www.rt.com/news/485944-trump-chinese-lab-theory/


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    Post  jhelb Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:24 am

    This VIDEO clearly explains that COVID19 is fake. Youtube immediately removed this video after more than 4 million views

    https://www.davidicke.com/article/567418/david-icke-live-london-real-today-330pm-uk
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:54 am

    jhelb wrote:This VIDEO clearly explains that COVID19 is fake. Youtube immediately removed this video after more than 4 million views

    COVID-19 as a virus with a different strike profile to the 'annual' flu virus is definitely not fake.

    Whether it is what it is made out to be or if the way it has been dealt with to date are different issues. Issues that will only become clearer with time.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:16 pm

    Lets face it... when we get through this the US is not going to be in good shape and they might want to lash out at someone... and their black book of who to blame has China and Russia at the top of the first page... if they can blame North Korea or Iran or Cuba for it they will try to do that as well of course...

    Best solution to an economic curfew is trade, but don't tell donald that...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:09 pm

    The US intelligence knew of that the epidemic started in December-January; the State Department sent cables in 2018 concerning the safety and the management issues at the Wuhan Institute of Virology biolab. Pl. some1 post this article:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/











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    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/vietnam-poised-to-be-big-post-pandemic-winner/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=0306d8a4e9-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_16_10_40&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-0306d8a4e9-31607385&mc_cid=0306d8a4e9&mc_eid=5455568640

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    Some sat pics of military medical installations currently build in Russia.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:25 pm

    People be warned with the trolls in this forum..
    using a lot of [CIA Anglo empire linked MEDIA] ,  
    from the 5 eyes countries...  pushing the same bullshit narrative that the virus began
    in a chinese lab.. promoting the "chinese accident" story ,totally unfounded accusations..
    They conveniently ignore facts..like american delegation was at the crime scene in wuhan
    weeks before the virus began to hit china, and the FACT ,that a mysterious virus was killing many civilians in US in summer 2019 ,near an american military base with bio lab..


    Here is the real reason Trump is at war with the -World Health Organizaton- [W.H.O.]
    and is trying to damage the organization credibility..

    https://www.rt.com/news/485993-china-who-coronavirus-news/




    China’s Foreign Ministry has said that claims about the novel coronavirus originating in a lab are not based on science, citing the WHO as it rebuked the latest news story on Covid-19 ‘patient zero.’
    “I want to remind you that the head of the [World Health Organization] has repeatedly stated that there is no evidence that the novel coronavirus has been produced in the laboratory,” Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian told reporters on Thursday.


    US elite are mad at WHO ,because they destroyed their false flag operation ,against CHINA
    when the virus was spread by US infested soldiers in Wuhan military games.. back in Oct 18 2019.
    Investigations on animals transmissions on illness ,virus ,are normal in the entire world.. in US ,Russia,
    China ,UK.  ,france.. animals ,like rats ,bats ,spiders, snakes,mosquitoes ,pigs ,this are the kind of animals
    that you will find investigated in bio security labs all over the world ,either because this animals drink blood
    or because they are poisonous.. What American media are doing.. are trying to create doubts ,suspicion ,
    into the world society as to why will china was investigating bats.. when all world labs needs to investigate
    bats and all other animals , who are suspected to help transmit virus to porks ,cows or from animals to
    humans.. this is the normal thing to do..  So they are fooling the world with incomplete information..
    for example.. like omg.. china was caught studying bats..   dirty bastards.. making a virussssssss..  
    but reality is all animals ,who are suspected of helping in transmission of viruses to animals or people
    or any insects that can cause damage in agriculture ,have to be studied and there is nothing suspicious if there are animals ,including bats in china labs.. specially if people eat them.. and so there are
    bats in every NATO lab too.. so perhaps NATO and China.. conspired to create covid-19 together ?  Laughing

    my theory is Covid-19 indeed was created in a lab.. but in an american lab.. and its goal was to break
    China economy completely.. turn China in a failed state.. and so american senators and american billionaires
    knew about a major pandemic event in the world that was to happen soon... and similations runs.. US intelligence warned about a major pandemic event in november.. a month before china had its first covid19 death.. So US is far more bigger suspect of creating the virus than China. US had all the motives in the world
    to attack china.. they were already trying to break china high tech industry with sanctions..they knew it  first...that a major pandemic was going to start.. and how could they have known of a pandemic ,something never happened before in this generation ,unless they were the ones planning it.  confused

    So the ball is already in motion rolling.. and the those who throw the ball wants to create
    an avalanche ,that destroy everything under it... the only question is ,in which side of the mountain
    the ball will end falling.. destroying everything that step in middle ,in the chinese  direction or in the american one..

    so like i said ..potential scenarios developing..

    1)US gov ,elites ,fake news media,financed NGO trolls , continue pushing the narrative ,the virus came
       from a chinese lab.. This is an attempt of US to isolate china economy from the world or at least promote
       a major boycott on chinese technology world wide. if they don't pay west $Trillions . in this scenario
       Europe after pressure ,accept to join the US side.. and accuse china of being responsible for the virus..
       for "Escaping" their lab.. and demand payment.. or face isolation .This is Europe capitulate resisting US
       and accept to live as colonies.  this will be a collective suicide for Europe future.  unlikely they will do this ,unless US threaten the lives of the european leaders and families and they submit to this pressure.

    2) US fails to accuse china into a wrong doing..fails to get Europe and asia development natons behind them and
       becomes the one isolated and not china..after starting a new cold war with china.. Europe goes
       one step close to  the east ,china and russia.

    3) US backs down in , their Chinal lab did it ,accusations and switch to their previous trade war ,their last hope
      will be that with the help of american fake news and 5 eyes nations bullshit media.. at least they can encourage civilians individually on their own to boycott chinese products. and promote anti chinese xenophobic sentiments against chinese business.



    Some sat pics of military medical installations currently build in Russia.


    if the images and information above are correct.. will show ,Putin again was caught off guard by his western friends and not prepared to manage a biological war. Putin was caught off guard in syrian conflict and in the ukrainian too..

    world war 3 will be fought not with nukes.. but with biological weapons.. they are extremely effective weapons
    in destroying nation economies.. and destroying societies.. we could be heading into a new reality ,of a
    quarantine world until the american empire cease to exist and stop its terrorism.. because is unlikely americans
    on their own will do anything to elect a government that will end the wars anytime soon. and so a face mask
    will become permanently a necessary security measure from now ,to forever , until the american empire collapse
    and disband.. as soviet union did.. that's when the siege on the world and humanity will end.

    a new way of doing business will be required and the digitalization of the economy.. to move towards online sales
    services and home delivery will become not only the new norm ,but the only way to progress in the future.
    putin's deams of turning russia into an olympic capital of the world ,and into the world major tourist destination
    destroyed in a million of pieces.. by this new phase of hostilities ,by the west on Russia and china. this is no longer a cold war.. but a semi hot slow war..


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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:12 pm

    https://www.navytimes.com/2020/04/14/navy-struggling-to-slow-outbreak-on-usns-mercy-as-7-sailors-test-positive/

    https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/04/15/2-us-sailors-on-french-carrier-test-positive-for-covid-19/

    https://www.navytimes.com/news/coronavirus/2020/04/15/navy-should-evacuate-quarantine-crews-from-all-ships-former-secnav-says/

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/navy-may-reinstate-fired-captain-to-command-of-roosevelt/ar-BB12GB7h?index=1

    https://apnews.com/15502fe8fc535119f927d2669b63ce91

    It's not surprising the US is blaming China & the WHO. But they should've paid attention to their own intel reports instead of relying on official statements or lack of thereof. OTH, if the intel didn't have the full picture, it's not China's fault.
    I heard the idea that the virus was 1st designed/intended to target Asians/Chinese only, but as we have seen it's not true- the designers would have known that even if it was possible, mutations would occur & infect non-Asians. If the elites wanted to use it as bioweapon, they also would have known that it likely would get out of control & boomerang on their own well-being. That leaves pharmaceuticals, med. equipment makers, banks, & biolabs with interests to make $ on it.
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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:02 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:https://www.navytimes.com/2020/04/14/navy-struggling-to-slow-outbreak-on-usns-mercy-as-7-sailors-test-positive/

    https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/04/15/2-us-sailors-on-french-carrier-test-positive-for-covid-19/

    https://www.navytimes.com/news/coronavirus/2020/04/15/navy-should-evacuate-quarantine-crews-from-all-ships-former-secnav-says/

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/navy-may-reinstate-fired-captain-to-command-of-roosevelt/ar-BB12GB7h?index=1

    https://apnews.com/15502fe8fc535119f927d2669b63ce91

    It's not surprising the US is blaming China & the WHO. But they should've paid attention to their own intel reports instead of relying on official statements or lack of thereof. OTH, if the intel didn't have the full picture, it's not China's fault.
    I heard the idea that the virus was 1st designed/intended to target Asians/Chinese only, but as we have seen it's not true- the designers would have known that even if it was possible, mutations would occur & infect non-Asians. If the elites wanted to use it as bioweapon, they also would have known that it likely would get out of control & boomerang on their own well-being. That leaves pharmaceuticals, med. equipment makers, banks, & biolabs with interests to make $ on it.

    The filthy yanquis are trying to scapegoat China for the utter failure of the NATzO clown show to properly respond to the outbreak in
    February. Even if the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, it is the responsibility of the UK, USA, France, Italy and every other country
    to impose border controls and quarantine. Maybe if China spread the virus in New York, London, Paris and Rome, then there would
    be a case for pointing fingers.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:24 am

    If they're saying China made the virus in a bio lab, it's fair game to bring up they did it first in North Carolina.
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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:48 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:If they're saying China made the virus in a bio lab, it's fair game to bring up they did it first in North Carolina.

    The funny thing is that these Wuhan biolabs have foreign staff and interact with the US military. There was a whole group of US military
    in Wuhan in the last few months enough to raise questions about who spread what.


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