Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #14

KamAZ-5350 after yesterday's explosion, which killed Lieutenant Colonel Alexey Schneider

RIP That won't go unavenged.


Shows a difference between the operations of the Russian vs US militaries. Russian officers are out there with their men in less protected transport than the Americans. Highly unlikely a US officer of that rank would be in a truck like that? Comment from Seig?

Probably a different level of retribution as well, not sure what the Lt Col:civilian ratio is for the US but its probably quite high and Predator drone based nowadays.

Very tragic indeed. RIP

Mine protected vehicles should be used at all times.

This is a big bomb, video at https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1436246596539273216

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Another day, another Russian airstrike in Idlib.

This time, in the vicinity of Deir Sunbul, southern countryside of province.

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Maybe instead of going around building military themed churches they could actually buy MRAPs in a wide number and field them to those who need them in Syria.

Seriously, there are units in Russia receiving MRAPs while soldiers serving in combat zones get Ye Old BTR-82s and mammoth shit unarmored and non-mine resistant trucks.

RuMOD seriously needs to hurry up with their Tornado wheeled chassis unification program, it is absurd at this point.

Russian_Patriot_ wrote:KamAZ-5350 after yesterday's explosion, which killed Lieutenant Colonel Alexey Schneider

It looks the truck drived on the mine. It have jammer for radio controled IED.

Special forces of the Rosgvardiya in the city of Yaduda, Daraa province.

Russians in Daraa

And a lot of Syrians!
The guys on the first pic look more like chechens.

Rosgvardiya provides security at the negotiations in the province of Daraa

Russian-Turkish patrol in the Syrian province of Hasakah

Su-34 of the Russian Aerospace Forces during recent strikes on militant targets in the western province of Aleppo

Rosgvardiya together with the Syrian army controls the disarmament of the population in the province of Deraa.

Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Russian-Turkish patrol in the Syrian province of Hasakah

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Compare and contrast the protection level afforded by the Turkish and Russian vehicles.

Surely the Russian Army doesn't think, after that truck IED, that no-one is after them?

Russia has MRAPS obviously in Syria, including typhoon K.  For more intense areas.  These capsule trucks, the capsule is protected, not so much the cab.

Just because a vehicle is big, doesn't mean it's well protected.  We lost quite a few troops due to ied on our mraps or armored vehicles in Afghanistan.

It is not the case that no Turkish troops will die in Syria... just because they have big MRAPs.

The enemy will try with all sorts of weapons... when they fail they will adapt their tactics until they work again and Russia needs to adapt and change too... better anti mine equipment would be more valuable than just sending bigger heavier vehicles.

JohninMK wrote:Compare and contrast the protection level afforded by the Turkish and Russian vehicles.

Surely the Russian Army doesn't think, after that truck IED, that no-one is after them?

There's been several instances where Turkish troops were killed by an IED.

The 'old' BTR-82 & Kamaz MRAP survived quite a few IED's, i.e.:

https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1283136346098294784/photo/1

If you hit a large mine or IED, regardless of the level of protection - you're likely to die. It should be obvious as there are mines that are meant to completely destroy a tank.

The rearmament process was created so troops don't need to travel in:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural-4320

It's been nearly 6 years since Russia has involved itself in Syria. They lost around 120 servicemen. Compare that to Turkey (300; more if you count the more global Kurdish - Turkish fighting) and CJTF–OIR (>30) that have seen much more limited involvement overall.

From the pics I've seen Russia uses top notch de-mining equipment in Syria and the specialist troops are well protected.
IED's is a big problem for almost any vehicle as they normally use heavy artillery ammo in most cases but they should have at least one vehicle capable of taking a hit from a land mine at the front of a convoy but ideally you would like to have as many as possible.

South Africa was at the forefront in developing mine-resistant vehicles (MRAP)and they really managed to save a lot of lives. In fact during my Citizen Force duties I was the designated driver of the Buffel (Buffalo) that was built onto a Unimog chassis. The Buffel was mainly used by the regular Army.
It tended to roll over when it was struck by an anti-tank mine and due to being an open-top vehicle some casualties occurred in the aftermath but in generally it served it's purpose well.



We also had the Caspir, which was a much better vehicle and was used by the Special Forces and the Police as well. Many modern day MRAP's took the Caspir as a basis for further development. The Australian Bushmaster being one example. From the pics you can see that the vehicles took some small arms hits but with little effect and the one that hit a mine only lost it's wheel. Everything and everybody else was fine.

This seems like an ideal option for a Tiger replacement for the Russians in Syria >>

In the Syrian province of Daraa, measures are continuing to reconcile local militants with the Syrian government. The militants are handing over all available weapons and ammunition to the Syrian Army military.