Russophobia, Common Lies-Nonsense on Russia

GarryB wrote:The amusing thing is that I know a few Brits and they have a very low opinion of Polish people.

Treat em mean to keep em keen...

Poles hate Russians and love westerners, westerners don't like Poles much and hate Russians. With the recent polls showing Russians seeing through the western BS perhaps will come to hate westerners too and everyone can hate together.


Sad thing is that Russia could have been a strong western ally... problem is that the west will not tolerate a strong ally... only strong enemies and subservient allies.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Germany is western... It's value system is derived as in rest of Europe, from Christianity and Enlightenment philosophy and it's history followed a similar pattern of development as in France or England - first tribal states, then feudalism followed by emergence of administrative monarchies, then unification with transition to constitutional monarchy and later to democracy.

The best period in German history is the Imperial Era from 1871 to 1914. Only the period of Bismarck was marked with good relations with Russia.

flamming_python wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:

GarryB wrote:The amusing thing is that I know a few Brits and they have a very low opinion of Polish people.

Treat em mean to keep em keen...

Poles hate Russians and love westerners, westerners don't like Poles much and hate Russians. With the recent polls showing Russians seeing through the western BS perhaps will come to hate westerners too and everyone can hate together.


Sad thing is that Russia could have been a strong western ally... problem is that the west will not tolerate a strong ally... only strong enemies and subservient allies.

Im english, so I can give a general opinion of how we feel about poles.

Good workers, cant fault them for that, out of all the different groups that come here they are the most hard working, but they are miserable buggers that look down their noses at the locals and we would prefer most of them to go back to poland. They dont intigrate with us or add anything culturally.

Different feelings towards czechs, slovaks, hungarians though, they are welcomed. They dont seem to have the 'big country' arrogance that many poles seem to have.

What about Russians?

I remember in the 90s it was all Russian mafia, then in the 00s it was all Abramovich, big yachts, Noveu-Rich Russians with homes in London, etc... but I left England 5 years ago so I don't know what the perception is nowadays

flamming_python wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:

GarryB wrote:The amusing thing is that I know a few Brits and they have a very low opinion of Polish people.

Treat em mean to keep em keen...

Poles hate Russians and love westerners, westerners don't like Poles much and hate Russians. With the recent polls showing Russians seeing through the western BS perhaps will come to hate westerners too and everyone can hate together.


Sad thing is that Russia could have been a strong western ally... problem is that the west will not tolerate a strong ally... only strong enemies and subservient allies.

Im english, so I can give a general opinion of how we feel about poles.

Good workers, cant fault them for that, out of all the different groups that come here they are the most hard working, but they are miserable buggers that look down their noses at the locals and we would prefer most of them to go back to poland. They dont intigrate with us or add anything culturally.

Different feelings towards czechs, slovaks, hungarians though, they are welcomed. They dont seem to have the 'big country' arrogance that many poles seem to have.

What about Russians?

I remember in the 90s it was all Russian mafia, then in the 00s it was all Abramovich, big yachts, Noveu-Rich Russians with homes in London, etc... but I left England 5 years ago so I don't know what the perception is nowadays

flamming_python wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:

GarryB wrote:The amusing thing is that I know a few Brits and they have a very low opinion of Polish people.

Treat em mean to keep em keen...

Poles hate Russians and love westerners, westerners don't like Poles much and hate Russians. With the recent polls showing Russians seeing through the western BS perhaps will come to hate westerners too and everyone can hate together.


Sad thing is that Russia could have been a strong western ally... problem is that the west will not tolerate a strong ally... only strong enemies and subservient allies.

Im english, so I can give a general opinion of how we feel about poles.

Good workers, cant fault them for that, out of all the different groups that come here they are the most hard working, but they are miserable buggers that look down their noses at the locals and we would prefer most of them to go back to poland. They dont intigrate with us or add anything culturally.

Different feelings towards czechs, slovaks, hungarians though, they are welcomed. They dont seem to have the 'big country' arrogance that many poles seem to have.

What about Russians?

I remember in the 90s it was all Russian mafia, then in the 00s it was all Abramovich, big yachts, Noveu-Rich Russians with homes in London, etc... but I left England 5 years ago so I don't know what the perception is nowadays

Well, at the minute its  pretty much as you would expect considering our media, nowadays russia is seen as nazi germany/ussr mark 2 and its people a bunch of vodka swilling imperialists who are chomping at the bit to invade europe.  

Not everyone thinks like that, but it probably sums up the thoughts of the ignorant masses.

Typical isn't it, things have come full-circle.

In the 80s the Russkies were communist imperialists and then after some flirtations with mafia and oligarchs they're now back to being imperialists again, albeit in a new flavour.

No matter what Russia does it's always going to be seen as something negative; the British media is quite literarly the most Russophobic in the world; I've never heard it make even one positive anything in regards to Russia.
Funilly enough the British media is far more balanced on China; while it's called out for the fact that it's a dictatorship with no freedom of the press (and much worse in all of this than Russia, albeit this is never acknowledged), its economic achievements are often praised, its culture is promoted, etc...

Werewolf wrote:What boggles me is that germany is counted as "Western" while from historical culture, political history and cooperation and traditions were germany had its best and most prosperous times it was leaning towards itself with good economical and trade relationships to russia. Germany is central europe and i do not affiliate it with the West, except of the current state where the country was purposely Americanized to create the perception that they are our friends and allies, while fact is they are occupying us.

GarryB wrote:

Well, at the minute its  pretty much as you would expect considering our media, nowadays russia is seen as nazi germany/ussr mark 2 and its people a bunch of vodka swilling imperialists who are chomping at the bit to invade europe.

Don't you find it a little ironic that the British... who had colonies that spanned the entire globe from the US, China, Australia, South Africa, India, etc etc would accuse Russia of being a threat to europe...

The irony is that the US and UK would love that to be the case so they could justify carving up all those largely untapped resources stretching on forever...

Rodinazombie wrote:you can scratch out the UK in your last sentence. Realistically speaking, the UK is only going one way and thats down, we are holding onto the coattails of america and once america loses its world position the UK will become a meaningless island on the edge of europe. As it is even now the rest of the eu laughs at us.

American Eagle wrote:For Russia to be recognized as equal, it must stop trying to undermine the status of the United States of America as the most powerful country in the world

American Eagle wrote:What third world nobodies? American foreign policy is doing it's job OK.

I spent over 20 years as an artillery officer in the USMC - a bit more respect please.

American Eagle wrote:For Russia to be recognized as equal, it must stop trying to undermine the status of the United States of America as the most powerful country in the world

American Eagle wrote:What third world nobodies? American foreign policy is doing it's job OK.

I spent over 20 years as an artillery officer in the USMC - a bit more respect please.

bmtppk wrote:it was pretty bad over there last time i was in 2011

Churkas ( thats the term we used) walking everythere, trying to sell you trinkets or drugs right on the street, trying to force you to buy stuff, etc most petty thieves ..basically the situation was looking grim. The police working alongside them of course not giving a shit. Neither did the government care obviously about their native people being robbed or killed by foreign muzzies( alll they did was introducing more and more taxes to leech off  their actual working class native populace because most muzzies didnt even work where i was)

at the same time i know it sounds really weird and unpatriotic i kind of want the 3rd world country that russia now became (ty mr putin for making it 3rd world instead of 2nd world)  to be taken over by those muzzies... completely..glad i got out of that shithole with my family ..still have my uncle living there but he'll manage....maybe then the  zombies will finally see how their own gov't betrays them