Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #7

LMFS wrote:In Russia such screws are widespread in aviation, maybe with threadlock? Probably out of the requirement not to need more exotic tooling like Torx keys or similar.

LMFS wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:I believe they cover it with a film then paint.  The pain acts like an adhesive to whatever film they use over it.  I'm not sure how often though one has to reapply film and paint.  I'm assuming quite often thus the Russians and Americans do not repaint and apply the film as often as we may think.  Waste of money.

The actual problem is protruding rivets or screw heads, all planes have such recessed ones as seen in the Su-57. The F-22 is covered with them and nobody said it is "fake" stealth. It is just Western retarded trolls doing the only thing they know.

Backman wrote:It's a prototype.

I seen this bullshit being hyped on Twitter 2 weeks ago. There are a lot of pathetic people out there.

Russia should realize that there's a whole industry out there dedicated to trashing the su 57. So they should avoid shit like this.

Backman wrote:From Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/6un4jm/a_single_phillips_head_screw_holds_together_an/

A single phillips head screw holds together an entire F-15. Not really, but still unexpected to see here.



I'm just surprised it's a lowly Phillips, and not a torx, hex, square drive, dodecagon drive, or proprietary secret drive type.


That's usually all it takes. Just one Google search to debunk their bullshit.

limb wrote:

Also i read on keypublishing when it was still alive that the Su-57 is rated only at Mach 2-2.1 max speed because its RAM coating would be damaged from higher speeds..

LMFS wrote:The head of the UAC: the newest domestic fighter Su-57 will be ordered in hundreds

Yuri Slyusar noted that development of several versions of this machine is expected to begin this year.

MOSCOW, July 15. / TASS /. The order for the latest fifth-generation fighters, the Su-57, may be measured in hundreds of units. This was announced by the General Director of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Yuri Slyusar during a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"We hope that, of course, since this machine has been chosen as the platform, the main machine for solving a wide range of tasks, the order for these machines will be measured in hundreds," he said.

According to him, development of several versions of this machine is expected to begin this year. “This year we will deliver four cars already. And then our task is to reach the level of 12 cars a year together with cooperation,” Slyusar noted.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11910321

limb wrote:

Also i read on keypublishing when it was still alive that the Su-57 is rated only at Mach 2-2.1 max speed because its RAM coating would be damaged from higher speeds. I imagine the F-35 is rated only at 1.6 for the same reason. How true do you think this is?  If true, the F-15 and MiG-31 hold substantial speed advantages over 5th gen in BVR combat given 2.5 and 2.8 mach max speeds.

Finty wrote:

limb wrote:

Also i read on keypublishing when it was still alive that the Su-57 is rated only at Mach 2-2.1 max speed because its RAM coating would be damaged from higher speeds. I imagine the F-35 is rated only at 1.6 for the same reason. How true do you think this is?  If true, the F-15 and MiG-31 hold substantial speed advantages over 5th gen in BVR combat given 2.5 and 2.8 mach max speeds.

Not sure you mean by 'when it was still alive'.

If you mean the British company key publishing, they did a mag on Sukhoi which I picked up last year; It does give the top speed as Mach 2 but doesn't state anything regarding it being due to stealth coating.

zepia wrote:Part 3 of the Su-57 series by Millennium 7



Typical opinion you would expect from western kinda "expert".
Any technologies/approach the west haven't implemented are "in doubt" or "double edged sword".
And anything the west implemented is "already on the F-35".

I would say the Combat Approve episodes on T-50 are quite more informative (those are really worth a watch, or even re-watch).

Don't get me wrong, I do respect this guy for his knowledge in this field.
He is still contain the same bias as other western analysts when it come to anything Russian, just to lesser degree.

marcellogo wrote:

zepia wrote:Part 3 of the Su-57 series by Millennium 7



Typical opinion you would expect from western kinda "expert".
Any technologies/approach the west haven't implemented are "in doubt" or "double edged sword".
And anything the west implemented is "already on the F-35".

I would say the Combat Approve episodes on T-50 are quite more informative (those are really worth a watch, or even re-watch).

Don't get me wrong, I do respect this guy for his knowledge in this field.
He is still contain the same bias as other western analysts when it come to anything Russian, just to lesser degree.

WTF are you saying there?
The only thing he said the Su-57 has akin the F-35 is the possibility of project the image of its own IIR camera on the helmet visor i.e. something the Flying Brick fans have tried to sell for almost a decade as a capability unique of the F-35 and DECISIVE for its own superiority to anything other around (this last being decisely denied by USAF pilots and even the producer themselves).
So, if it is western bias we would need a whole lotta load of it around.
And he also advice his wievers to give a look at "combat approved" series for better imagines of the ones he can provide...