The coronavirus has infected about 10% of the world’s population, the World Health Organization estimates. The official count stands at about 35.3 million, but health experts agree that’s probably a massive undercount. The CDC says cases in the US alone could be underestimated by at least 90%. The virus is also sweeping through major institutions. At least 2,000 TSA members have tested positive, as have at least 159 staff in the EU's executive branch. Meanwhile, the Trump administration is still angling for a pre-Election Day vaccine by reportedly blocking new FDA vaccine guidelines that would make that tight time line all but impossible. Oh, and the CDC has updated its guidance yet again to clarify that Covid-19 can spread by airborne transmission as well as close contact. CNN
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Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #2
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5960
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President Trump returned to the White House yesterday after being treated for Covid-19 at Walter Reed Medical Center, but his homecoming has created more confusion and concern. Doctors warned that the President isn’t out of the woods yet, but upon arriving at the White House, Trump almost immediately removed his mask and conducted business bare-faced, even with numerous staff members standing by. He also tweeted that people shouldn’t be afraid of the coronavirus, even though it’s killed more than 210,000 people on American soil, few if any of whom had access to the advanced medical care the President received. As of yesterday, Trump was still on dexamethasone, a steroid, and will receive another round of remdesivir today. Meanwhile, more people in his inner circle have tested positive for Covid-19, including White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany.
The coronavirus has infected about 10% of the world’s population, the World Health Organization estimates. The official count stands at about 35.3 million, but health experts agree that’s probably a massive undercount. The CDC says cases in the US alone could be underestimated by at least 90%. The virus is also sweeping through major institutions. At least 2,000 TSA members have tested positive, as have at least 159 staff in the EU's executive branch. Meanwhile, the Trump administration is still angling for a pre-Election Day vaccine by reportedly blocking new FDA vaccine guidelines that would make that tight time line all but impossible. Oh, and the CDC has updated its guidance yet again to clarify that Covid-19 can spread by airborne transmission as well as close contact. CNN
The coronavirus has infected about 10% of the world’s population, the World Health Organization estimates. The official count stands at about 35.3 million, but health experts agree that’s probably a massive undercount. The CDC says cases in the US alone could be underestimated by at least 90%. The virus is also sweeping through major institutions. At least 2,000 TSA members have tested positive, as have at least 159 staff in the EU's executive branch. Meanwhile, the Trump administration is still angling for a pre-Election Day vaccine by reportedly blocking new FDA vaccine guidelines that would make that tight time line all but impossible. Oh, and the CDC has updated its guidance yet again to clarify that Covid-19 can spread by airborne transmission as well as close contact. CNN
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So now the clowns are claiming that anyone infected with a virus is always at maximum spreading level?
This is BS. As with the flu, there is a peak spreading regime when the congestion and phlegm flow are highest
during the fever. After recovery, the patients do not cough and sneeze all the time and the amount of
virus bearing phlegm in their nose and mouth is vanishingly small. It's not like the virus is living in the saliva.
This is BS. As with the flu, there is a peak spreading regime when the congestion and phlegm flow are highest
during the fever. After recovery, the patients do not cough and sneeze all the time and the amount of
virus bearing phlegm in their nose and mouth is vanishingly small. It's not like the virus is living in the saliva.
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Not everyone sheds virus in the same way too.
There were many cases reported when infected kept no precautions and didn't infect anyone in their households.
Like early stories about Chinese couples that raised so many questions back then.
There were many cases reported when infected kept no precautions and didn't infect anyone in their households.
Like early stories about Chinese couples that raised so many questions back then.
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Half of US states are now seeing an increase in coronavirus diagnoses, and the country just surpassed a cumulative 7.5 million reported cases. Dr. Anthony Fauci says the US could see 400,000 Covid-19 deaths by this winter if health recommendations continue to be flouted. “Pandemic fatigue,” so to speak, is also a problem in Europe, the World Health Organization warns. Amid this apathy, countries like Germany are seeing their highest number of cases in months. On the vaccine front, the FDA says it will want to see two months of follow-up data for any clinical trial that may lead to a coronavirus vaccine. That would make it difficult, if not impossible, for any vaccine maker to apply for emergency use authorization by Election Day. CNN
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Fundamentalist Pastor and Trumpie John Hagee, who sued over Pandemic Shutdown, Contracts COVID-19
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The FDA is acting to lubricate the profits of Big Pharma.
This outfit has little credibility after its total failure with Baycol by Bayer.
This outfit has little credibility after its total failure with Baycol by Bayer.
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Just had the story of a young British doctor who contracted the virus about 6 months ago but was barely effected by it at the time, he is now suffering severe fatigue and is having trouble exercising... who knows what the long term effects are...
Better to get a vaccine and never find out...
Better to get a vaccine and never find out...
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GarryB wrote:Just had the story of a young British doctor who contracted the virus about 6 months ago but was barely effected by it at the time, he is now suffering severe fatigue and is having trouble exercising... who knows what the long term effects are...
Better to get a vaccine and never find out...
I agree. At least Russia and China are getting out there as fast as possible. And they are doing the proper testing.
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GarryB wrote:Just had the story of a young British doctor who contracted the virus about 6 months ago but was barely effected by it at the time, he is now suffering severe fatigue and is having trouble exercising... who knows what the long term effects are...
Better to get a vaccine and never find out...
Yes, it's a russian roulette.. who knows what underlying conditions even healthiest people might have? I personally don't want to play it and I am all for vaccination. It will be interesting to see Russian vaccination program. I think they will run couple of vaccines as there are more in the making.
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The 2nd wave is now in full-swing in Russia and across Europe
Russia has the vaccine ready, with a 2nd one still in trials
It needs to start production and ramp it up as it did for tests, masks and medical gowns earlier, while reinstituting a lite or limited lockdown to buy time.
Distribute the vaccine to care homes, old people across the country, to hospitals/ambulatories and medical personnel, to other emergency services (firefighters/police) and social workers, schools, all key government/administrative/industrial/scientific personnel, to the military and Rosgvardia, to airports/seaports, international train and bus terminals, border crossing posts. In that order.
And then start reopening the borders, with mandatory testing and vaccination if required upon arrival, get the economy restarted again and accepting migrant workers, traders, businessmen and international students.
Russia has the vaccine ready, with a 2nd one still in trials
It needs to start production and ramp it up as it did for tests, masks and medical gowns earlier, while reinstituting a lite or limited lockdown to buy time.
Distribute the vaccine to care homes, old people across the country, to hospitals/ambulatories and medical personnel, to other emergency services (firefighters/police) and social workers, schools, all key government/administrative/industrial/scientific personnel, to the military and Rosgvardia, to airports/seaports, international train and bus terminals, border crossing posts. In that order.
And then start reopening the borders, with mandatory testing and vaccination if required upon arrival, get the economy restarted again and accepting migrant workers, traders, businessmen and international students.
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And then start reopening the borders, with mandatory testing and vaccination if required upon arrival, get the economy restarted again and accepting migrant workers, traders, businessmen and international students.
And that will be important.... being able to open your borders will be important for the economic recovery... Has anyone had the vaccine here?
We know there are two jabs... an initial jab and then a booster... wonder what sort of delay period there is between the two jabs...
I seem to remember reading somewhere the cost is something like $13 and over time the price will come down, so for that sort of money it would be much cheaper to give people visiting the vaccine rather than putting them in quarantine for two weeks for about $3K...
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The United Snakes govt. is now saying the Russkies have hacked their vaccine (obviously through Facebook ads) to prevent them from getting the Covid-19 vaccine out.
Americans believe that Russia prevents them from getting a coronavirus vaccine
Russia, Iran and China are allegedly trying to prevent the United States from creating its own vaccine against coronavirus. At the same time, Russia will not be able to bring its vaccine to the international market.
This statement was made by the head of the National center for counterintelligence and security of the United States (FDA), William Evanina, in an interview with the American TV channel Hearst.
the center's Director also added that the Russian Federation, China and Iran are trying to steal any of the vaccines currently being worked on in the United States. At the same time, he did not explain what his claims are based on.
Now in the United States, several vaccines are being tested simultaneously, which were developed by American pharmaceutical companies Moderna, Pfizer and AstraZeneca.
Donald trump announced the appearance of a domestic vaccine on the market before the presidential elections, which will be held in the United States on November 3. But the day before yesterday, he denied his words, noting that the drug due to political reasons will be ready only after the elections. Stephen Hahn, who heads the us food and drug Administration (FDA), said during an interview with the Financial Times newspaper that he may approve the vaccine before the start of the third phase of clinical trials. This will happen if the benefits of using it are higher than the likely risks.
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And why should Russia not be able to bring the vaccine to the international market???
The data of the murican vaccines must be on the same server as the hypersonic missile tech that Russia stole.
The data of the murican vaccines must be on the same server as the hypersonic missile tech that Russia stole.
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Americans must be some of the most mentally deficient people on the planet. How would any hacker disrupt vaccine development?
Do these hater clowns even have one example of a single US pharma computer system having its disks deleted? It's like claiming
hackers can shut down a car assembly line by "hacking". Hacking what? At its core an assembly line or a vaccine development
program is a physical process involving people manipulating physical things. Computerization has meant that there is quality control
and data being stored and used for computer simulations or process timing. But these computers are like other physical tools
located on site and not floating in some cloud.
For obvious reasons Big Pharma computers are not attached to the global web. They sit on LANs. Corporate espionage is a
real thing so you can be sure that these LANs are behind very effective at the paranoia level firewalls. Hacking a firewall
is only possible if you know exploits. But firewalls are not just software, the are also hardware. Supposing some hacker
can really achieve a miracle and break in. They can either steal or corrupt data. But corrupting or deleting data will
generate red flags because there is a physical process involved with vaccine design and manufacture. It is not
some virtual activity. And you can bet your last cent that there are security backups of all important data. So even if
a hacker can corrupt/delete, that is not any sort of terminal loss.
These BS stories are pathetic excuses for serious issues with the vaccine production effort. At least one US company was
a total scam (I have posted on this already). And why is some US official assclown complaining on behalf of US Big Pharma.
Let's see the evidence that the relevant companies complained first.
Do these hater clowns even have one example of a single US pharma computer system having its disks deleted? It's like claiming
hackers can shut down a car assembly line by "hacking". Hacking what? At its core an assembly line or a vaccine development
program is a physical process involving people manipulating physical things. Computerization has meant that there is quality control
and data being stored and used for computer simulations or process timing. But these computers are like other physical tools
located on site and not floating in some cloud.
For obvious reasons Big Pharma computers are not attached to the global web. They sit on LANs. Corporate espionage is a
real thing so you can be sure that these LANs are behind very effective at the paranoia level firewalls. Hacking a firewall
is only possible if you know exploits. But firewalls are not just software, the are also hardware. Supposing some hacker
can really achieve a miracle and break in. They can either steal or corrupt data. But corrupting or deleting data will
generate red flags because there is a physical process involved with vaccine design and manufacture. It is not
some virtual activity. And you can bet your last cent that there are security backups of all important data. So even if
a hacker can corrupt/delete, that is not any sort of terminal loss.
These BS stories are pathetic excuses for serious issues with the vaccine production effort. At least one US company was
a total scam (I have posted on this already). And why is some US official assclown complaining on behalf of US Big Pharma.
Let's see the evidence that the relevant companies complained first.
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Just love those salty tears though.... delicious...
Maybe they are hacking... maybe they are interested to see if monkey based drugs can be as good as drugs designed for humans...
Maybe they are hacking... maybe they are interested to see if monkey based drugs can be as good as drugs designed for humans...
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GarryB wrote:Just love those salty tears though.... delicious...
Maybe they are hacking... maybe they are interested to see if monkey based drugs can be as good as drugs designed for humans...
Americans are working on two stage human adenovirus vaccines. AstraZeneca and Oxford appears to be the only mainstream endeavour
using a primate adenovirus and a single stage vaccine.
But the slow development time has nothing to do with Phase II trials. It looks like making a Covid-19 vaccine ain't so easy. Of course,
Russia must have cheated somehow...
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More than half of US states are seeing increases in coronavirus cases, and five states, including Montana, New Mexico, North Carolina, Tennessee and Vermont, have recorded a 50% rise in cases over the last week. While the US has far and away the most cases and deaths of any country, other areas of the world are trying to get ahead of possible resurgences. The Chinese port city of Qingdao wants to test around nine million people after 12 new cases sparked concerns of a wider outbreak. France is adding more cities, including Toulouse and Montpellier, to its list of “maximum alert” areas as cases rise. The UK is set to announce a new set of coronavirus measures soon. And India’s Health Minister is urging people to celebrate upcoming festivals from home as the country tops 7 million confirmed cases. In short? Despite President Trump’s claims this weekend that the coronavirus is “disappearing,” the numbers indicate it most definitely is not. CNN
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Pretty sure it was quoted as 5 days.GarryB wrote:
We know there are two jabs... an initial jab and then a booster... wonder what sort of delay period there is between the two jabs...
I seem to remember reading somewhere the cost is something like $13 and over time the price will come down, so for that sort of money it would be much cheaper to give people visiting the vaccine rather than putting them in quarantine for two weeks for about $3K...
The Western vaccines will I suspect be $150-200 a shot. So many palms to grease.
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But the slow development time has nothing to do with Phase II trials. It looks like making a Covid-19 vaccine ain't so easy. Of course,
Russia must have cheated somehow...
They have to have some reason why state run and state funded companies can come up with the goods faster than private enterprise...
Every country has their own brand but it is all the same BS... we called it Kiwi ingenuity I am sure every country has their own term to pretend it has something to do with nationality and not a human condition...
The Russians have already described why they were so much faster than everyone else... they were already working on a similar vaccine for a similar disease and a lot of the testing and experimenting had already been done and could be reused instead of being redone
Despite President Trump’s claims this weekend that the coronavirus is “disappearing,” the numbers indicate it most definitely is not. CNN
You can't trust any western media source to be honest sadly... they have an agenda to throw mud at Trump and they are going for volume over quality.
Saw a new report on the local New Zealand news and they criticised Trump for not wearing a mask to give a speech... there was no people within 10 metres of the guy and his crime before he opened his mouth was that he was not wearing a mask. They then played a speech from Biden and he took his mask off to speak and the reporter didn't even mention it.
Yeah, I know... Trump had the virus... but wearing masks is either important or it isn't Trump as recovered so he knows he probably doesn't have it now.... with Biden... who knows....
But as I said above... neither candidate will be able to fix the US it is broken so they will lie to say they can fix everything before the elections and one will be elected, and then for their entire presidency the other party will block everything they try... not because they think it is bad for the American people, but because it will make their political opponent look bad and weak... the democratic party and the republican party would burn down churches and schools and hospitals to make their opponents look bad.... America is fucked with those two parties holding power... and vice presidents wont make any difference either because the system is designed to make fundamental change impossible... and that is what they need.
The Western vaccines will I suspect be $150-200 a shot. So many palms to grease.
And they will demand protection in case there are side effects so that will be mostly profit... good time to buy drug company shares I would think...
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Drugmaker Johnson & Johnson has paused the advanced clinical trial of its coronavirus vaccine because of an unexplained illness in a volunteer. It’s the second Phase 3 coronavirus vaccine trial to be paused in the US, but experts say it’s not entirely concerning or unexpected for adverse effects, even serious ones, to appear in large studies. Meanwhile, several countries like Russia and Germany are seeing record daily numbers of Covid-19 cases, or numbers approaching the early peaks of the pandemic. There’s another second wave to worry about, too: A new report claims there will be another surge of Covid-related mental health devastation as well. Increased isolation and tension, coupled with poor access to taxed mental health treatment systems, could lead to more tragedies like overdoses and suicides. CNN
Russian scientist warns COVID-19 is more insidious than we know it
https://www.pravdareport.com/
https://youtu.be/JiOUZu1d7mU?t=82
Russian scientist warns COVID-19 is more insidious than we know it
https://www.pravdareport.com/
https://youtu.be/JiOUZu1d7mU?t=82
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More than 38 million people have been diagnosed with Covid-19 around the world, and more than 1,086,000 have died. The mayor of Manchester, Tennessee, Lonnie Norman, just lost his life to the virus, as did a Dutch woman who caught the virus twice. She is the first reported reinfection death in the world. Drugmaker Eli Lilly is the latest company to pause a major coronavirus related trial. It’s halted its trial of a combination antibody treatment for unidentified safety reasons. Meanwhile, drugmaker Pfizer has plans to start testing its experimental coronavirus vaccine in children as young as 12. It will be the first US coronavirus vaccine trial to include children. CNN
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Russia has another vaccine coming and the Zionist media is just crying. Calling it "unproven" and other things. These assholes know they failed with this.
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Some European countries are reporting record high Covid-19 cases, prompting leaders to choose between two drastic solutions. Limiting local restrictions would help keep economies open, but may not stop another wave of the virus. A short national lockdown may be safer, according to health experts, but could shock economies once again. The UK’s Boris Johnson is one of the leaders trying to avoid the latter. In the US, the Trump Administration has indicated they are open to natural herd immunity as a way to best coronavirus -- an option that experts say could be disastrous. Under most estimates, that would mean about 70% of the population would have to catch the disease. CNN
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Yanqui trash is preemptively accusing Russia, China and Iran of disrupting its Covid-19 vaccine development efforts.
So basically yanqui Big Pharma staffed by profiteers and grifters in management and semi-educated workers is having a
hard time and needs an excuse. American sheeple just need to be told about "enemies" from abroad to excuse anything
and everything. Much like the fake 2016 Russian election meddling. The only real meddlers are the Americans.
I wonder if yanqui maggots tried to disrupt Russia's vaccine development. Highly likely.
The clown trying to smear Russia, China and Iran is William Evanina who is director of the US National Center for Security and
Counter-intelligence (NCSC). He provided not a single shred of evidence. This would include the usual claims of hacking.
It's not like hacking evidence is top secret so we have proof by assertion. The typical exceptionalistani BS.
While spewing his intellectually insulting drivel, this clown managed to claim that China is parasitizing the number one economy
on the planet, the USA. That is just certifiable retardation of anyone who believes this claim. Actually it is the USA that
is the parasite on China since it is the USA that has been using China as a sweatshop to make cheap goods which are resold
at huge markups in the USA with its "post-industrial" merchant economy. The USA has been creaming profits off of China
so by definition it is not a "host" for any "parasite".
The clown also claimed that Russia is no longer using troll farms and social media ads to destroy US "democracy". So this
clown must be a Clinton butt monkey since he is pushing the disproven Russiagate tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
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