Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #2

Hey, don't forget our Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine, similar in principle to Sputnik V and we might get Sputnik V as our second dose if the trials go well.

JohninMK wrote:Hey, don't forget our Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine, similar in principle to Sputnik V and we might get Sputnik V as our second dose if the trials go well.

sounds good


in more covid news.. george soros and gates in problems.

Peruvian Court Probing Judge's Ruling Alleging Soros, Bill Gates are Creators of COVID-19 Pandemic


Despite the World Health Organisation last year confirming the coronavirus to be of animal origin, conspiracy theories that COVID-19 is man-made continue to circulate.

The Supreme Court in the Ica region of Peru is investigating a resolution by a local court, claiming that COVID-19 was invented by the "criminal elites" of Hungarian-American philanthropist George Soros, the Rockefeller family, and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates.





https://sputniknews.com/latam/202101121081739595-peruvian-court-probing-judges-ruling-alleging-soros-bill-gates-are-creators-of-covid-19-pandemic/

is official now..

The "safe" vaccines are so "safe" , that they halted vaccination with them in california.  


287 clinics in calfornia with 330,000 vaccines ,ordered to stop vaccinations  

sad that his is only halted in one state only and pfizer vaccine not included .  

Where are all the pharmabots now hiding ?   hiding in caves. ?     
why the silence . ?    didn't that was conspiracy nuts theories any talks that
nanotech vaccines are not very safe ?  .  95% efficiency?   yeah right.  

California halts Moderna vaccine batch after severe allergies


people will not believe have much BS was latin american media speaking
about sputnik and how much they celebrated moderna vaccine ,as a miracle
of medicine .    With doctors smiling telling people go vaccinate people
"is safe" no worries. in norway 23 who took the vaccine of elder age died in 23 days
from pfizer. people falling death like flies more faster than covid could do it. and norway only
have 5 million population. The real numbers of victims in deaths and seriousl injured have to be
much higher than reported with the major censorship of the media that exist.  

As usual the super corrupt neoliberal media in latin america ,reported absolutely
NOTHING about this .ZERO . it did not happen.  
They instead handpicked reports of good success stories in some places
to promote how "Safe" are moderna and pfizer vaccines..  

GarryB wrote:

The one moron disliking the above post is indeed a moron.

Even if these vaccines are gambling they have nothing like the lethality of the virus they are immunising against, despite what Vann says, the vaccine, if given to everyone in the US of A will not kill over 400,000 people so in that sense it is better than nothing.

That will be truth if the statistics they give you were correct ,but they are not , you can't say
how "much better" is taking the vaccine than not ,unless you are given the true numbers... but they are cheating with the numbers , of deaths and infested too to make the virus more dangerous than it is ,to justify mandatory vaccinations.

You continue conveniently ignore doctors like dan erickson which video i posted ,telling you in your face ,that the US federal government is artificially increasing their numbers , writting in everyone they can as covid19 death  ,even if you die from cancer or car accident or from a fart.  
but gain nobody care if you vaccinate or not is your problem.   but don't lie people telling them
pfizer or moderna vaccines are "very safe" ,they are not.  

in more news..
@KVS watch this..

here is the son of the women who took the pfizer vaccine and her life was ruined forever.
now is speaking to RT.

look "how safe" are the vaccines


any pharma industry that continues vaccinating people as business as usual ,with dangerous ,unproven and totally untested vaccines and people keep dying or suffering serious damages to
their health , those pharma should lose their license. 23 people died in norway in about 23 days of pfizer vaccination.and this is a small country with just 5 million population..  this is not normal. the russian and chinese have vaccinated millions and none one suffered anything like this yet and neither any report of deaths yet. and russia is about to release another vaccine this time with 100% of true
effectiveness..   if russia can do it ,safe vaccines ,using safe proven methods , other nations have no excuse to not do safe vaccines too.  pfizer needs to stop its program and go back to the drawing
board and avoid using any dangerous untested and unproven tech  in their vaccines. Aztrazeneca is the only western vaccine maker from the west who have shown cares about lives ,they themselves stop their own vaccination program as soon a handful people die in fist week and requested help russia to improve theirs.  said no to george soros and bill gates vaccines.

Those Norwegian deaths are causing a ripple of uncertainty about mRNA vaccines around the world. There is for example a discussion as to whether a DNA modifying product should be called a vaccine at all.

With an 'emergency' authorisation it is both the largest Stage 3 medical trial ever and without normal Stage 3 monitoring to boot. This is uncharted territory seemingly mainly for the benefit of US big Pharma.

Serbia received 1 million doses of Chinese vaccine the other day (Sinovac)

There is also steady supply of Pfizer vaccine and soon we will be getting additional 250k doses of Sputnik V

Mass vaccination started today

We will be receiving Moderna and Oxford down the road but Pfizer, Sputnik and Sivovac are most popular by far plus quite a few people didn't care which one they will be getting

Covid19 has not killed 400 000 people in the USA, that's just creative accounting

Instead, 400 000 people have passed away that were tested positively for Covid19. Gunshot victims, car crash victims and of course Saint Fentanyl Floyd are included in those numbers.

From the words of the CDC, only 6 percent of the deceased Covid1984 victims were actually solely suffering from Covid19 - the vast majority being 75+ years of age.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-94-percent-covid-among-caus/fact-check-94-of-individuals-with-additional-causes-of-death-still-had-covid-19-idUSKBN25U2IO?edition-redirect=in

JohninMK wrote:Those Norwegian deaths are causing a ripple of uncertainty about mRNA vaccines around the world. There is for example a discussion as to whether a DNA modifying product should be called a vaccine at all.

With an 'emergency' authorisation it is both the largest Stage 3 medical trial ever and without normal Stage 3 monitoring to boot. This is uncharted territory seemingly mainly for the benefit of US big Pharma.

Plus the exemption of liability they are enjoying for doing that experiment... it is like taken from a dystopian novel, only worse, since it is totally real and being perceived as perfectly normal and ok...

January 21, 2021 00:01 am
Everyone is vaccinated: what is the difference between "Sputnik V", "EpiVacCorona" and "KoviVak"
Three vaccines will help create herd immunity faster, experts say
Ekaterina Yasakova
Svetlana Kazantseva

Russian vaccines Sputnik V, EpiVacCorona, as well as KoviVak, which is now awaiting registration, it is quite possible to vaccinate 70-80% of the population in a short time, doctors say. Each of the drugs has its own advantages, experts explained to Izvestia. The advantage of Sputnik V is its versatility, EpiVacCorona is safety for people with allergic diseases, and KoviVac is unpretentious: the vaccine is easier to store and transport. In addition, there is an assumption that for revaccination it would be better to use a different drug that was inoculated for the first time. However, a full picture of the effect of each of the vaccines will be obtained in about a year, experts said.

Three trump cards

Two vaccines are currently used in Russia: "Sputnik V" of the Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology named after Honorary Academician N.F. Gamalei and "EpiVacCorona" of the State Scientific Center of Virology and Biotechnology "Vector". Soon the third will be available - "KoviVac" produced by the Scientific Center for Research and Development of Immunobiological Preparations named after M.P. Chumakova, Deputy Prime Minister Tatyana Golikova said at a government briefing recently. She clarified that large-scale production of EpiVacCorona will be provided from February 2021, and the release of the first series of KoviVac into civilian circulation is planned in the second half of March.

Until June, the regions should receive about 70 million doses of the Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine , said on Wednesday, January 20, the head of the RF Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov on the air of the Soloviev Live YouTube channel.

Now it is important to create herd immunity as soon as possible with the help of vaccination, for which it is necessary to vaccinate 70-80% of the population, experts emphasize.

“With the help of three vaccines, it will be possible to do this much faster,” said Mikhail Kagan, Honored Doctor of Russia, leading scientific editor of the Vrachu.ru service. - In addition, today it is believed that post-vaccination immunity will not be lifelong, revaccination will be required. Having three drugs and using them consistently in this regard may be the best solution.

Izvestia asked experts to explain the differences between the three vaccines for their use, taking into account the individual characteristics of people.

- I do not think that any vaccine will be better for a certain group or category of citizens, because all drugs made correctly are similar to a virus. And they cause a virus-like effect, which is called an immune response, ”Pavel Volchkov, head of the MIPT genomic engineering laboratory, told Izvestia.

According to him, if you add a little less virus-like particles, the effectiveness of the drug will change accordingly. Fewer particles can reduce side effects, but then the effectiveness of the vaccine will also be reduced.

Despite the common purpose of all three vaccines, the drugs are still fundamentally different, Pavel Volchkov noted.

Sputnik V is the world's first registered vaccine based on the human adenovirus vector, as explained on the drug's official website. Vectors are carriers that can deliver genetic material into the cell. In this case, the genetic code of the adenovirus that causes the infection is removed and in its place is inserted material with a protein code from another virus, in this case from a coronavirus thorn. This new element is safe for the body and helps the immune system produce antibodies that protect against infection.

- The vector virus can only be grown in living cell cultures, which requires high-tech production when scaling up. And this can be difficult in some countries. The vaccine must be stored at minus 18 degrees, which makes logistics difficult. It should be noted that Sputnik V is available in two forms - frozen and dried. Dried up simplifies logistics, - said Mikhail Kagan.

"EpiVacCorona", developed by the Novosibirsk center of virology and biotechnology "Vector", is the so-called peptide vaccine. In it, peptides of about 25-32 amino acid residues are sewn to the carrier protein, added Pavel Volchkov.

The third vaccine developed at the Center. Chumakov, made from neutralized SARS-Cov-2. According to Pavel Volochkov, in this case, the most traditional approach to creating a vaccine from a live virus was applied, in this case SARS-CoV-2.

- Due to the cultivation of a dangerous live virus during production, strict security and safety measures are required. And the production of inactivated vaccines is limited to those enterprises where you can work with live SARS-CoV-2. That is, most likely, only the developer himself - the Center for them. Chumakov, - suggested Mikhail Kagan.

The advantage of the vaccine Center. Chumakov is that it does not require deep freezing, it is easier to store and transport, which is important for remote areas, the expert concluded.

Choose the taste

The Sputnik V vaccine is presumably universal in nature and protects, among other things, against mutant strains of the virus , said Tatiana Shapovalenko, medical director of the MEDSI Group of Companies.

"EpiVacCorona" from the "Vector" center, according to her, is recommended for people with concomitant pathology, patients with impaired immune function, people with cancer, the elderly.

In addition, it is known that EpiVacCorona is the safest for allergy sufferers, noted, in turn, Mikhail Kagan.

- The EpiVacCorona vaccine consists of artificially synthesized virus proteins. It is low-allergenic, does not require a complex production process, that is, it is easier to produce it in large quantities, the expert concluded.

There are also known contraindications for "Sputnik V" and "EpiVacCorona". Taps for the third vaccine have not yet been published.

- Vaccines "Sputnik V" and "EpiVacCorona" are allowed for the elderly, but prohibited for children under 18 years of age. Vaccination with "Sputnik V" is prohibited for people suffering from diabetes, infectious, autoimmune and oncological diseases, as well as diseases of the respiratory system, and "EpiVacKorona" - for people with immunodeficiency, severe diseases of the hematopoietic system, epilepsy, stroke and other diseases of the central nervous system , - said Head of the Laboratory of Genetics of RNA-Containing Viruses of the Scientific Research Institute of Vaccines and Serums named after I.I. Mechnikov Stanislav Markushin.

In a year, specialists will be able to draw more detailed conclusions regarding the effect of each of the vaccines on patients, says Konstantin Khomanov, a general practitioner, founder of the Doctor's Handbook mobile application. According to him, in order to understand which vaccine is best for the elderly, it is necessary to compare the data for this particular age group. You also need to do with children, adolescents, pregnant women and other subgroups. This will take time.

The representative of the World Health Organization (WHO) in the Russian Federation Melita Vujnovich announced on January 20 that she plans to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in Russia. Earlier, she said in an interview with Izvestia that she would be vaccinated in the country in which she would be at the time the organization made a decision on the need to vaccinate its employees.

On the same day, the press service of the RDIF announced that the fund had submitted an application for registration of the Sputnik V vaccine in the EU and expects the rolling review process to begin in February. The application for approval of the Russian vaccine against COVID-19 has already been submitted to WHO, Reuters reported on Wednesday. The time of registration confirmation is still unknown.

https://iz.ru/1114058/ekaterina-iasakova-svetlana-kazantceva/vsem-privit-chem-razlichaiutsia-sputnik-v-epivakkorona-i-kovivak

JoJo Biden is now 2 hours into his presidency and the WHO just came out saying that PCR testing at high amplification rates significantly alters the positivity rates of those tests

Ie. Fake tests.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndySwan/status/1351975844948881412?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1351976182972092424%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=

There will be a total lockdown coming from February. After that the numbers will miraculously nosedive and Prez. JoJo will have has first huge victory.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndySwan/status/1351975650521993221?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1351975650521993221%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

yep ,they are manipulating the statistics , manipulating the numbers ,since the pandemic began.
for justifying lockdowns and mandatory vaccinations.

Semantics... nobody has died from HIV then... it is normally their weakened immunity where something else actually kills them..

?

HIV is an autoimmune disease with a 100 percent kill rate whilst Covid19 is a coronavirus with a 0.17-0.23 kill rate

So no, an 86 year nursing home patient with kidney failure and a weak heart doesn't die from Covid1984, she dies WITH Covid19

Obviously if you refuse then you have to be treated as at risk of having the virus which will restrict your travel... you have the right to choose not to get vaccinated but you don't get the right to infect others...

Scary language. My rights are not curtailed by other people's irrational fears. Especially when looking at lifestyle choices, food consumption and drugs&alcohol abuse of those same people

Or when looking at the societal attitudes towards HIV. What was that law in California about again?

It has been said before but I want to say it again.

Coronavirus is revolution.

Medical gulag.

EU launched vaccine war: what's the difference between Sputnik V and Pfizer
The European Union has begun to attack vaccines that are not registered on its territory.
January 18, 2021

There are only ten countries in the world capable of mass vaccination of their citizens, according to the World Health Organization. That is, if Russia could not invent and start producing its own vaccines, there would be no question of any vaccination with foreign vaccines. But these ten countries are also a huge market, which mainly Western manufacturers are fighting for, since it is the most expensive.

It is not surprising that this market is also limited by protectionist laws - for example, European countries cannot buy the Russian Sputnik V yet, because, according to the accepted rule, only vaccines produced and approved in the European Union can be vaccinated here. Moreover, the World Health Organization has not yet registered Sputnik V, which means it has not been included in the Global Fund for Access to Anti-Coronavirus Vaccines. There is only the American Pfizer vaccine. And this raises questions about the role of WHO itself in vaccine competition. So far, Pfizer is the leader in Europe, but this company cannot cover all the needs of both the United States and the European Union so quickly.

In addition, other European pharmaceutical giants are now hastily developing their vaccines against coronavirus, trying to manage to enter the still free market with them. Because vaccine bids are not vaccination itself.

Time to save humanity, and in the West there is a new stage of cynical conflict. The vaccine war is in full swing. First and immediately world. The cost of winning it is too high and, of course, is measured in dollars.

"This is a war for everything. This is a war for $ 25 billion, and maybe more. Everything is aimed only at profit and influence ," says political scientist Maciej Poreba.

The world is falling apart again into blocks, every day a new front opens. Here the European Union, as if by order, went on the offensive - it attacks those vaccines that are not registered in the EU, which means they will not get into the hastily made up "health passport" - its owners are promised unlimited opportunities.

"The creation of a vaccination certificate mutually recognized by EU countries is a medical necessity, but the issue of enforcement of this document has not yet been resolved. It is important to find the right balance to ensure equal opportunities for those who already have and do not yet have access to vaccination, this issue will be in the near future to be discussed at the medical level, "says the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.

In vaccine isolation in Europe, both Russians and residents of other countries are at risk of being armed against our covid, our domestic development Sputnik V. Just the day before, the second shipment was delivered to Argentina. More than 50 countries have received applications for the purchase of more than a billion doses. But even after that, Sputnik V is in no hurry to be included in the European lists. Experts award such a policy with a not very biased definition - "scientific genocide".

"Some countries will be pressured with the help of these so-called vaccination passports, and Russia will be pressed, as it was before, so why should something change during the coronavirus? And no one will say that such documents are crazy, and no one will not remember that international pressure is prohibited, "says political analyst Christoph Herstl.

But it only gets stronger every day. Twitter last Thursday limited the page for the Russian vaccine. Ostensibly to repel a hacker attack from the United States. But this version sounded only when a grandiose scandal erupted.

“Russia has done a tremendous job developing vaccines. And they were so successful that some people, for obvious reasons, didn’t like it. Otherwise, why would there be such an incredibly powerful response ,” said American lawyer Bruce Marks.

It was Sputnik V's Twitter page that was one of the ways to promote development abroad. This is how it was possible to agree on joint trials with the pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca, which largely saved the British vaccine. And literally on the eve of the blocking, WHO simplified the registration of the drug.

“You need to understand that the West is not happy with this, it’s absolutely forbidden for Russia to occupy leading positions. And she took them, and even faster than anyone else, ” says political analyst Christoph Hirstl.

Whoever owns the vaccine owns the world - Big Pharma has learned the lessons of the Rothschilds well and rephrased them in its own way. The already dire coronavirus reality for the largest pharmaceutical companies is only part of a large commercial and political game, if not a real conspiracy. A vaccine specialist from France warns that we all don't end up on their needle ...

"Their goal is all people, about 7 billion people living on Earth. They will need to be vaccinated 2 times a year, the vaccine market is an unprecedented business. Divided for years to come ," says Serge Rader.

Surprisingly, the European Union had contracts for deliveries even before the American Pfizer and Moderna did anything. The appetite was great, but the strength was not calculated. Vaccination centers in Germany are empty. Don't expect huge queues here in the coming weeks, or even months. The EU will face disruptions in vaccine supplies. The ministers of health of Denmark, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Sweden and Estonia expressed concern in a joint letter and demanded that their American partners fulfill all obligations. But here is the statement of the mayor of New York, who made it clear: it would be good to send all the reserves to save US citizens.

"The US made several political mistakes. If you remember, Pfizer was willing to provide Americans with as many doses as the government requested. But the US authorities refused. And in the end, Pfizer sold them to Europe, " says former US government adviser, economist Kent Moores.

Which, moreover, has become a kind of "testing ground" for testing American know-how. Someone's health is drastically undermined by just one dose of Pfizer, and someone is directly included in the lists of "lethal cases": dozens of deaths from complications in Germany, France, Norway, and the States themselves. And all of these are elderly people who survived covid, but not the vaccine against it.

“This vaccine is very modern, but it has not been tested yet. We already know that in Poland this vaccine is not recommended for people with food allergies, who have problems with drug absorption, and for pregnant women. intended only for healthy people, ”says political scientist Maciej Poreba.

And after that, the West says that the Russian Sputnik V is “too poorly studied”. The Pfizer side-effect is now as much of a novelty for many as the RNA-based vaccine itself, a gene therapy drug that will lead to no one knows where. Translated from scientific to universal: the American vaccine is like a pig in a poke.

"The Sputnik V vaccine does not change your genetic picture. And the Pfizer drug, by means of RNA, generates a code that is inserted into our genetics so that we get the genetic prerequisites for resistance to COVID-19. This is a drug with unknown possible side effects. You can imagine, how unnecessarily hastily such a vaccine, created using a new technology, was adopted for mass consumption without many years of testing , "says Alek Racic, a professor at a medical university from Serbia.

Meanwhile, the vaccine remains almost the last hope of humanity. In Germany, the already tough quarantine, when not only you don’t go to a restaurant, but you cannot drive 15 kilometers from your region, can come to replace the already tough quarantine, up to a complete stop of public transport. And in Bavaria from Monday they will test a new type of masks. In fact, these are FFP-2 respirators, without them they will not be allowed into the store, not on the bus, or on the subway. Merkel's government has already become a "secret ministry". They say that the fate of the country has already been decided in closed negotiations, and this will indeed become shock therapy.

However, it is quite European. After all, the fight against a new, British strain at the end of last year was more like revenge for Brexit - not only the coronavirus, but Brussels also knows how to show its "thorns".

“All these tests for covid, checks, documents, it makes huge queues at borders and delays that are like death, the movement of people and goods is blocked. The government cannot cope with this, and this is like cutting the life-giving blood arteries of the economy. but also European in general , "says economic analyst, head of investment fund Justin Warkhart.

Empty airports, closed restaurants and shops, businesses on the verge of bankruptcy. Neither lockdowns nor curfews are saving Europe anymore, the number of coronavirus victims is still growing, and vaccinations are proceeding too slowly. Looking at all this, the World Health Organization for the first time in a long time has shown at least some independence - in contrast to the European Commission. WHO does not yet recommend introducing vaccination certificates for international travel. Is this not a reason, if possible, to go to any of those 50 countries, where soon they will begin not only to vaccinate, but also to produce "Sputnik V".

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GarryB wrote: Creepy Joe wont be able to blame China like Trump could and did, so it makes sense for him to blame Trump... but it means he will have to do the opposite of many things Trump did just to show he is different.

Biden is pro China and anti Russia. This pandemic helped him to win apart from fake votes that were cast in his favor across the country by illegal immigrant voters.

Hungary becomes first EU state to approve Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine against Covid-19, as UAE also grants authorization

https://www.rt.com/russia/513219-hungary-sputnik-vaccine-approval/

Uuhhmmmm......yea.

Had my first Oxford/Astra Zeneca shot today. Up to 12 weeks for the second. Could be a chance it will be Sputnik V now the UK is out of the EU and can approve for itself. We are certainly pushing supplies from both Pfizer and O/AZ to the limit as the infrastructure is in place to inject nearly 500,000 a day.