Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #2

Do not take Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine if you have a ‘significant history of allergic reactions,’ UK regulator warns:
https://www.rt.com/uk/509112-vaccine-pfizer-warning-britons-regulator/

Let see how the BBC will white-wash this!

South Korean company plans to launch Sputnik V vaccine production in January - newspaper

US officials want coronavirus vaccines to start being administered within 96 hours of an emergency use authorization from the FDA. Then, over the first 100 days of his presidency, President-elect Joe Biden wants to make sure 100 million Americans are vaccinated. But the White House coronavirus task force has warned that current vaccination plans wouldn't reduce the spread of the disease until at least the late spring. That means more long months of misery in places like Nevada, where one hospital is so overwhelmed, it is treating patients in a parking garage. Complacency is not an option, and Canadians have learned that the hard way. After Canada initially quashed the Covid-19 curve, lax attention to guidelines may have fueled a deadly second wave that’s sent case rates soaring 10 times higher than they were in late summer. Canadian Thanksgiving in early October may have fueled a further rise.
Concern among legal experts is growing after Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones had her home raided by armed state police on Monday. Jones was fired in May after accusing Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration of minimizing the pandemic and skewing state data. Jones says she has evidence that state officials lied about early numbers and reporting. Now, state authorities are investigating whether she accessed a government messaging system without authorization to send a message urging her former colleagues to speak out about coronavirus deaths. Jones hasn’t been arrested or charged with anything, and legal experts worry materials taken during the raid could affect other state employees. Others are concerned about what the raid, which was recorded, says about the actions of American police. CNN


Interesting discussion here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnBPbU1zHL4

Kiko wrote:Do not take Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine if you have a ‘significant history of allergic reactions,’ UK regulator warns:
https://www.rt.com/uk/509112-vaccine-pfizer-warning-britons-regulator/

Looks like 2 participants have died...

FDA Says 2 Participants In Pfizer COVID Vaccine Trial Have Died

And people healthy don't need vaccines ,your immunology system have everything to counter
them.

Then why are fit and healthy health workers dying from Covid?

There is no level of health that will protect you from a wide range of diseases... the black plague, ebola, polio, etc etc... no one has natural resistance to Covid, nobody is immune, but reactions to the virus are different for different people, and even if it does not make you obviously sick you really don't know what sort of long term damage it is doing while your body fights it off... and of course while you have it you are spreading it to others.

Vaccines is like preparation for a test... some will fail anyway, but are you suggesting exams in schools are best taken first and then you learn about the subjects... or the other way around?

[i] but is a complete stupidity , to vaccinate when you don't trust in your government
or the country who is pushing you to take their vaccine and when they show bad intentions in their vaccination program ,and you are aware of foul play of some dark agenda going on ,not only by your government ,but the entire system

Intelligence has nothing to do with it... even a bad vaccine will give you some protection and even if it gives you no protection it means you get a piece of paper to say you are vaccinated and can travel and do things with other people. I haven't worn a mask in about 3 months... life where I live is normal... because we are an island nation at the arse end of the world so anyone arriving goes in to quarantine... the only way for new covid infected people getting here are being screened... but when world travel restarts and more people come here we will likely find we start having problems because people will lie about having vaccines just like they lie about bringing food or illegal drugs, and infected people will start slipping through and I might have to wear a mask again.

No country even pretending to be democratic will make vaccines mandatory, but even then if you choose not to take it you are a gambler...

So the Pfizer vaccine is based on a much more modern solution than Sputnik V?

If you mean experimental and untested...

The technology from the SputnikV vaccine was developed in the 1950s and has a track record of working and being relatively safe in multiple uses and tests and actual deployed vaccines since then. The Pfizer vaccine is fully experimental and I am sure they will be keeping a careful watch on the results to see whether it is a step forward or if it needs a lot more work before it can be used again on people... the term guinea pig springs to mind...

Hopefully it is not followed by Planet of the Apes, and Genesis of the Planet of the Apes...

Do not take Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine if you have a ‘significant history of allergic reactions,’ UK regulator warns:

Allergic to what though? Peanuts? It is a monkey virus... maybe bananas?

What about people who have never come into contact with things they are violently allergic to and so don't know they have an allergy?

President-elect Joe Biden wants to make sure 100 million Americans are vaccinated .

Hahahaha... what a bastard... he knows they have 100 million vaccines ordered from Pfizer, but they are two injection vaccines so that means 50 million people will get vaccinated with those.... they must have another 100 million vaccines ordered from some other supplier to make this promise or he heard they had 100 million on order and thought that was for 100 million people and he is an idiot.

The thing is that the US ordered 100 million but other countries have made orders too so even if the US orders 500 million more they will be at the end of the queue and will have to wait... but the US being the US I suspect they will steal vaccines from other countries orders produced in the US the way they stole PPE gear produced in China for other countries too...

Looks like 2 participants have died...

They will likely claim that it is statistically normal for people to die and that they may not have died because of the vaccine... There have been four cases of facial paralysis, and they were all in the group that got the vaccine so they couldn't claim it was natural and unrelated to the vaccine like they could have if some were in the placebo group...

No country even pretending to be democratic will make vaccines mandatory, but even then if you choose not to take it you are a gambler...

The only gambler here is you , because if you see people dying from a vaccine and you still take it
then is you are the only one to blame for your stupidity in taking a vaccine that you knew had major risk and still went ahead of it.  So Go ahead mr Garryb go vaccinate yourself and your family with bill gates and soros vaccines , if anyone is so stupid to trust in criminal governments who have
an agenda of depopulation ,and they later die ,then it will be their fault ,because they were warned
to not do it and they still choose to play gambling with their life and lost.    and like i said
and doctor dan erickson a 25 years immunolisgt..who deal every day with viruses , he have said
that the every single human body immunology system fight millions of viruses  and do very well vast majority of them .

Then why are fit and healthy health workers dying from Covid?

Because they are not fit and not healthy thats why . Just because they are doctors does not means
they are healthy. my personal doctor for example had bad health ,and had many problems . Doctors gets cancer , gets diabetes , some doctors big smokers ,all those things weaken your immunologist system and when they get very old ,their defenses are weaker too . there are doctors alchoholics too ,look at trump with 74 years ,got the virus and was back at work just 1 week later. and making jokes in a rally ,about CNN for doing exactly the same thing you are doing. .scaring people with covid19.  

So your a wrong , putin not even have been vaccinated ,so why he don't take the shot of sputnik v?
mmmm..

Like i said , doctors , american doctors ,experts in imunology have said you don't need to take
the vaccine , just because there is one. nobody vaccinates to the common flu virus ,that every year millions have and people die for it.. so why it needs to be different with covid19?

If you live in anglo terrorist system land ,US,UK,Canada,Australia,New Zeland , then it will be wise to distrust of the bullshit liars of your government . they want to reduce the population and they not even hide it and they have an horrendous record in the past with vaccines too . So is not only
what they say ,but their historical record with vaccines is terrible.  

Russia and China in the other hands ,they have better record and trust with their societies ,and
their vaccines are far less risky ,since they have no criminal governments seeking to depopulate
their country .

Doctors in the other hand in Russia ,that works with hundreds or thousands of covid patients ,they are required to vaccinate to avoid risk ,that they don't pass the virus to someone very ill and very weak and not prepared to deal with the virus ,from not being healthy. China lost a hand pocket of doctors.. from half a million who worked to combat covid19 ,so it tells you how lethal the virus is.. very small.    

Russia says many coronavirus patients died of other causes. Some disagree

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-casualties-idUSKBN22V1Q7

but you don't need to believe in words.. a picture speak a thousand words and a video a million.
lets show you how Russia handle the covid19 , they told the vaccinations will be 100% voluntary
and they never made mandatory the covering your face . wanna look how Russia handle the virus  in st petersburg?

look at sergey channel.. he have been exposing the fraud of covid19 pandemic..
by uploading 3 hours every week during the covid19 "global crisis" to show that in
russia , the face mask is voluntary , and nobody is social distancing much.. this is the gambling
the Russian government is taking. so in short, you are simply brainwashed by the bullshit
anglo jewish media ,that there is a major pandemic. there is not..

a pandemic is a natural event , that happens from nature.. this is not a natural event..
but a man made virus world wide event..  so while russia do not enforce people to use mask and not even  prohibit them from having night life..and parties. at the same time putin close the borders.. of
Russia to US and europe and close tourism from other nations.. same policy of china. cities and business open but borders closed.. because the virus that produce covid19 comes from abroad. from outside its borders, from america and their puppet states. .not from any monkey or bat soup as the west claimed..

Nov 10, 2020



sept 6 2020


a full day of open air concert at ST petersburg
no social distancing ,no face mask. no police interference in business.
so either putin is "gambling" in this pandemic or you are brainwashed
with western propaganda.. i think is the later.  There is no killer virus
killing people in mass scale ,the people who die most of them already
had very bad health.

if that happens in US or UK or australia or canada..the pandemic bulshit nations ,the real
masterminds behind covid19 ,police will have shot to death people without face mask.    

The west exxagerate the crisis ,and artificially inflate their numbers to justify the destruction
of middle class small business. to break society hability to be independent of humanitarian aid
from the government and justify later forced vaccinations with their backdoors fake vaccines.

Russian major cities all the summer was fully open to business and night life and parties in Russia..    and no laws ,no police ,no government demanded those business to close.
Sweeden had zero lockdowns..     and nobody talks about that.. inconvenient fact.
and had lower infections than those countries that did major lockdowns.
and tourism is the main way ,was being passed the virus , even putin indirectly told this.
that they got covid19 in sevastopol crimea ,because of illegal tourist that came from ukraine
and something was told about legal consequences for them.. ie.. arrested.  or something else.

so what the world face
1) is not a pandemic global event.. but a biological war ,with a modified virus.
2)hence why russia close its borders and airspace to tourism.. but allow locals to freely
move and go to parties and face mask is not mandatory. allow business open.  
so much for the "pandemic"  
3)the world also face a depopulation program through fake vaccines.. so good luck using
those american british vaccines. They are not only targeting enemies economy but also
their own population.. and the according to dr judith mikovits and expert microbiologist,
the vaccines will be designed to make new viruses more lethal and dangerous than they really are
and block your body abilities to fight virus with their own natural defenfes.

So the pandemic is fake ,but the virus is real ,but the most dangerous thing is not the virus ,but
the anglo jews vaccines.. so no contradiction here.. this is how terrorist states of america and their british ,canadians and australians mafia operates ,during major scale crimes..
They intentionally create major complicated operations ,so that those of weak mind ,that are dumb
and silly will get lost trying to figure out what they doing.  

is not that different to what obama did to russia in 2014 ,when he coordinated with saudi arabia
a war on oil prices.. to sink them to the button.  hows that possible? that they in order to break
russia economy ,they will sacrifice their own energy industry.? easy.. because gas putin russia economy is highly dependent on energy sales while the american economy depends very little.
about half of russian budget comes from energy industry, while only 7% of american economy takes a hit.. So it damage american economy . indeed it does..  But it damage a far lot more the russian economy.  So this is why the US military wants to grab all the oil in the world they can.. to take control of it . Is not because they need oil.. but because gas putin russia needs high oil prices to boost russia economy. so they capture all the oil and later flood the market with oil ,to sink oil prices
,it damage texas economy that is oil dependent.. but at the same time completely destroy russia economy if low prices pronlong for many years..

So is a calculated damage , it hurts america but hurts russia far far more. and US will have easier time to recover since they can print money ,russia not.

so whats the difference now? they switched the oil war ,to a virus war. they unleashed a virus in the world to hit their enemies like russia and china but also the ethnic minorities in america too .. hence why newyork and california ,blacks and hispanic and the poors and elder people ,those that cost a lot of money to the american economy in social aid ,have the highest casualties in covid19.
So putin's dreams of turning russia into a tourism power or olympic power also have been neutralized
by the west.. by the west war on oil prices and covid19 war.

 
and they expected to sink china ,russia an iran economies completely ,and on top of that
accuse them ,of being the authors of the virus ,and demand reparation damages with the help
of european union.. but those plans failed.. and so they now more focusing in reducing their poor and middle class population ,that more pressure the american economy in social aid. And the major etnic
cleansing will likely happen when everyone vaccinate with their trojan horse vaccines , that will be
designed to make worse your body immunology system.. and so  they can get rid of their poors ,elders and those that depend of food stamps ,and make it look like it was a virus who did it. but
it was the vaccine.. their anglo jews vaccines will be much more dangerous than the any virus.
because will open the door for US and UK ,Canada and their allies , israel too ,australia too to have free hunting season , and start killing in mass scale their population and later blame it on a new virus.. covid20.. and this is if you don't starve to death earlier ,because they are already now destroying millions of small business and middle class ability to feed itself with their brutal lockdowns
only for the small and middle class  business. and no lock down for amazon or wallmarts ,the military defense industry and the high tech industry. they want to get all the middle class homeless ,so is more easier later to convince population to vaccinate with their crap ,for a piece of bread.

PapaDragon wrote:
So in addition to being moon landing denialist and flat earther Vann7 is also antivaxxer?

My God, who could have seen this coming?

-Only anti fake vaccines , those designed not to help ,but to kill you by weakening your body defenses ,from new viruses they planning to unleash. like the ones of the western terrorist countries that you support. The russian vaccines and chinese ones will have no problem .  They don't have depopulation agenda ,they care about their people ,contrary to the west.

About moon landing ,yes it was full fake..  no human ever visited
the moon ,only in hollywood movies , that NASA Created.

-and the flat earth is a hoax , a CIA funded conspiracy to confuse and discredit those who
question the western narrative of major historical events.. as the fake moon landing was ,and
today plann-demic and also 911 wtc inside job attacks..

About moon landing ,yes it was full fake..  no human ever visited
the moon ,only in hollywood movies , that NASA Created.

r these fake also?  New Views of Apollo Moon Landing Sites
https://www.space.com/12796-photos-apollo-moon-landing-sites-lro.html

Tsavo Lion wrote:

About moon landing ,yes it was full fake..  no human ever visited
the moon ,only in hollywood movies , that NASA Created.

r these fake also?  New Views of Apollo Moon Landing Sites
https://www.space.com/12796-photos-apollo-moon-landing-sites-lro.html

Showing any hardware on the moon IS NOT PROOF that humans ever landed in the moon.
Soviet union have 3 rovers in the moon and have many probes too.. soviet union even collected soil samples.. and so china too . but they NEVER claimed of landing with humans in the moon.The apollo manned program was a complete hoax but anyone can believe whatever they want ,but facts is ,there is no proof that americans landed on the moon other than their words that they did it ,or fake videos, and photos ,that even NASA admits were altered and modified by them and not the original footage.

in more plan-demic news..

It seems someone from this forum reported to youtube my video exposing the covid fraud being
setup against american people. since the video i posted of DR Dan erickson was deleted in less than 24 hours after i posted it...   the video was there for days , and as soon i post it ,it is deleted by youtube.. so who reported it?  papadragon?  Tsavo Lion?  

So if im wrong ,why they delete the videos? any doctor that disagree with the official narrative
is censored by all western anglo bullshit media.

here is the deleted video link..



common guys what are you so afraid of freedom of discussion about covid19 ?
If covid19 is everything american media claims, why media giants are so afraid of any doctors and health professionals that have a different opinion?


professionals that have a different opinion.  

Its “beam” or “field of view” was such that, once pointed at the Moon, it could be let go for a little while, but pretty soon it would have to be reaimed because the motions of the Earth and Moon caused the Moon to drift out of the antenna’s field and the signal to be lost. In fact, this was one piece of evidence that the Apollo 11 signals the receiver picked up were indeed from the Moon — if the antenna was not kept aimed at the Moon, the signal disappeared. Baysinger’s wife and daughter watched the Apollo 11 landing on TV while Baysinger and Rutherford listened via Baysinger’s equipment. The signal on the home-built equipment came through approximately 5-10 seconds earlier than the signal on TV. It was noisy, but you could hear what was going on.
I asked Baysinger whether he found anything that NASA edited out — comments about things going wrong, the astronauts being loose with their language or exclamations about meeting space aliens. He said no — absolutely everything was transmitted to the public on TV. In fact he said, “that was kind of disappointing.” Part of the idea of the project was to hear the unedited “real story,” and it turned out there was nothing edited. Indeed, Rutherford’s story makes no mention of hearing anything unusual.

http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11

https://www.vofoundation.org/blog/lunar-eavesdropping-two-men-a-radio-and-apollo-11-part-ii/
https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/amateur-radio-and-the-space-age.627421/

The USSR also listened on Apollo Missions comunications.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90366557/when-apollo-space-capsules-splashed-down-they-were-so-accurate-it-scared-nasa

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/50-years-ago-hornet-3-the-recovery-of-apollo-11

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/apollo-11-splashdown-watch-live-stream-50-years-ago-today-2019-07-24/

https://www.universetoday.com/113428/apollo-11-splashdown-45-years-ago-on-july-24-1969-concludes-1st-moon-landing-mission-gallery/

If all of the above was fake, there would be 100s of people participating in creation of all the studio props, & some would talk about it. 
Have a nice time of day!

About 20 million people in the US could be vaccinated against the coronavirus in the coming weeks, according to Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar. Before that, the FDA needs to officially approve an emergency use authorization for the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. There’s a key committee meeting to discuss that today, and it could clear the way for the FDA to greenlight the vaccine within days. Canada’s health department gave approval to the vaccine yesterday. Even with inoculation plans in place, experts say Americans need to stay vigilant to avoid unthinkable death tolls. They’re already mind-boggling: Yesterday, the US reported a record-high of more than 3,100 new Covid-19 deaths. Elsewhere in the world, Japan is scrambling to contain a resurgence of the virus, and Germany has smashed daily death records, with 590 in one day. CNN

If all of the above was fake, there would be 100s of people participating in creation of all the studio props, & some would talk about it.
Have a nice time of day!

Thats very easy to answer. look at the syrian conflict. The US military have been in syria
aiding Alqaeda and Isis not by mistake but by policy to take down  syria.. this have been exposed
by 3 or 4 american lawmakers.. at least.. tulsi gabbard ,ran paul ,his father ron paul , richard black.
and this after 9 years of war there.. not a single big corporate media in US have exposed the fraud
of pentagon war against terrorism. This illegal war in syrian by the pentagon ,is not
a small operation ,it requires thousands of military and hundreds of generals and politicians to be
aware of what they are really doing there. allied with ISIS and Alqaeda ,trainning them ,giving them weapons ,food and logistic and using the american airforce and military bases ,to protect them ,on top of that ,providing alqaeda with media and political support. Such gigantic operation like the
syrian war chose ,that overwhelming vast majority of washington DC lawmakers and american media
are corrupt people to the core ,or people with very low morals and ethics and don't care about
humanity and human lives. not even care about american citizens ,look at 911 terror attacks.
3,000 american citizens killed by their own Federal government ,to later blame middle east jihadist
in caves and justify endless war on middle east.. endless invasions ,in the name of "fighting terrorism". but is all a show ,the war on terror is fake ,just  like so many other crisis they engineer.

So is the same thing. people for fear to lose their jobs will stay quiet and say nothing.
in 9/11 wtc.. former FBI los angeles director.. 3rd highest position in the FBI
that is Ted Gunderson ,exposed that 9/11 wtc attacks in 2001 and most major terror bombs
attacks ,like oklahoma bomb building and also the WTC bomb attack that failed to bring down
the towers.. were all inside jobs by the FBI.. but nobody was arrested ,no big corporate media interview him, he told he wrote to congress and he was completely ignored.  there is a mafia
in washington DC ,that will never talk no matter what crimes the federal government does in US
or  their military in another part of the world. So your claim that people will have spoken is not really
an argument.. vast majority of americans with a high paid position will never speak about any fraud
in the moon , specially when this is just a bragging rights issue..  if your congress and senate and mainstraim media ,don't tell a single word to expose the major treason ,when US Pentagon military and CIA aids alqaeda and isis in syria , when the life of millions is at risk by US military illegal alliance with terrorism.. then even less they will talk ,when is an issue of lying about space achievements they never did.

So 99.99 % of your media and politicians don't say a word of US unholy alliance with ISIS and
Alqaeda in syria and even protect hillary clinton ,when wikileaks exposed there for giving weapons
to isis.. then even less your government and politicians will say anything when it comes to space
that nobody is killed and no crimes done.. if they keep silence when the life of millions is at risk
in a criminal war in syria , then how you expect american politicians or nasa employees to speak
when it comes to space true achievements???  

Now US face a major covid19 pandemic man made event , and they have been exposed for lying
and cheating with their numbers , asking doctors in all hospitals to write in ,every death as "covid19 casualty. same with those that offer funerary services.. have told exactly the same thing. That new york city pressure them to lie about real cause of death.

So how can you expect anyone to talk about any space exploration fraud ,when in the most
important things ,they also stay silent ??   With that said , you can't expect morals and ethics
from a system ,from a country US ,their political elite and most of their society long time ago have
forgotten about their christian values.. so you are naive ,if you use as "proof" the silence of NASA.
over a bragging rights issue over whether they landed or not in space.  US government cheats and lies and steal all the time. And they are now stealing in your face Trump elections..  

And your 100% of your big corporate lying media from A to Z ,from new york to california,have been lying and lying and lying non stop ,left center and right ,about anything ,that could damage the image of US in the world ,or that can damage the image of the democratic party ,who are very loyal
to your shadow government and CIA.

in more covid19 news..

Special ID cards | One step away from mandatory vaccination?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eoRSjI9wqQ


This is how the script can happen... is to step by step ,the government will push
to get you vaccinated one way or another. this is very important for control of society
and in a long term operation 5 to 10 or up to 20 years.. reduce significantly the population.
and later "people bad health or negative reactions to the vaccine" or a virus blamed for it.
So this is what is more dangerous , the vaccines makes it extremely easy for the government
to get away with murder of a big part of population ,because the virus or the victims poor health
will be blamed but never ,anyone will think ,they rigged their vaccines for killing them ,at any moment they desire it.

people say in youtube....
"ill take the vaccines only after politicians take first the vaccine.. bla bla bla..
answer --> this doesn't help in any way.. they can use purified water in their vaccines
and poison in population vaccine. and people will have no way to know if the vaccine they get
is the same one , politicians and super billionaires will get.  so there are at least 2 vaccines
a true one for those who want to rule the world.. and a fake vaccines for the servants.. that is 90% of society.  so there are a million of games and tricks ,they can do ,to fool population into thinking
the vaccine is "safe" if people don't day in 24 hours or a month or a year ,they will claim "see is safe".  But the fake vaccines ,could be designed ,to not work alone ,to work in pairs ,with a virus.
so the vaccine alone will not kill you. . but when you get a seasonal flu you will die if they so desire it. so vaccines can be designed to make any virus of their choice , more lethal and block your body
abilities to fight and neutralize the virus. say no to anglo nazis vaccines. Pfizer ,moderna ,astrazeneca.. better say no..

if those american -british vaccines are so safe ,why south korea.. is chosing the russian one? which is a major russian ally?    
why hungary too want the russian vaccine? and rejected the pfizer vaccine. why mexico is chosing
the russian vaccine ,when russia is thousands of km away of mexico,, instead of chosing the american vaccine that is right next to mexico border?  

The answer is TRUST. those nations trust more in russian vaccine that in western vaccines
made by nations popular for very bad morals and ethics .  Will not be surprising if south korea
,mexico and brasil , get sanctions for choosing the Russian vaccine.  

and when it comes to the moon landing.. remember , rusia or china could easily deploy a refrigerator
in the moon if they so desired.. but that does not means that there is a kitchen there if some
telescopes notice them or that humans were ever there. So far no evidence exist that nasa walked with humans in the moon, you have to trust by faith and by a fake video they filmed ,that have been exposed as doctored and fake. the moon landing happened in disney studios ,this is the most likely place of filming. they had a replica of the moon in a giant studio and even a rail machine that simulate the landing on the moon ,using miniatures cameras . saw the video somewhere in youtube ,but they don't last long.. deleted by youtube as soon they become popular.

He is on to us.... get him...

Dude, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean the whole world isn't out to get you....  

So Go ahead mr Garryb go vaccinate yourself and your family with bill gates and soros vaccines , if anyone is so stupid to trust in criminal governments who have
an agenda of depopulation ,and they later die ,then it will be their fault ,because they were warned

It has always been my policy to listen to people I have met on the internet for important life decisions.

AstraZeneca accepts proposal from Sputnik V developers over vaccine combination. The former will start clinical testing in its vaccine combined with the human adenoviral vector type Ad26 of the latter before the end of 2020:
https://br.sputniknews.com/ciencia_tecnologia/2020121116597749-astrazeneca-aceita-proposta-dos-desenvolvedores-da-sputnik-v-sobre-combinacao-das-vacinas/

Kiko wrote:AstraZeneca accepts proposal from Sputnik V developers over vaccine combination. The former will start clinical testing in its vaccine combined with the human adenoviral vector type Ad26 of the latter before the end of 2020:
https://br.sputniknews.com/ciencia_tecnologia/2020121116597749-astrazeneca-aceita-proposta-dos-desenvolvedores-da-sputnik-v-sobre-combinacao-das-vacinas/

This is an absolute blow to the fragile SJW psyches at the BBC, let's see them spin this away lol!

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Kiko wrote:AstraZeneca accepts proposal from Sputnik V developers over vaccine combination. The former will start clinical testing in its vaccine combined with the human adenoviral vector type Ad26 of the latter before the end of 2020:
https://br.sputniknews.com/ciencia_tecnologia/2020121116597749-astrazeneca-aceita-proposta-dos-desenvolvedores-da-sputnik-v-sobre-combinacao-das-vacinas/

This is an absolute blow to the fragile SJW psyches at the BBC, let's see them spin this away lol!

Wow, just wow. I can't wait for the UK Government and MSM to announce this. Brilliant. US pharma ain't gonna like this one little bit.

Very good explanation

As Debs had opined:

In the real world that means if the AstraZeneca vaccine is more than 60% efficacious (which is better than any flu vaccine - 95% is new big pharma BS IMO) and has no major side effects (one case of MS tells us nothing for the reason I outlined above), then it will be that or nothing for a sizeable slab of the world's population.

If everyone falls for big pharma's transparent attempt to stop this possible vaccine in its tracks, prior to testing completion, then that will mean no vaccine for billions of our fellow humans, so rather than joining in the big pharma sabotage, it makes better sense to consider that vaccine more objectively than de Noli, that Harvard minion of corporations seems to do.

I agreed with that and discussed the most likely reason why the AstraZeneca vaccine did not create a higher efficacy:

The AstraZeneca vaccine uses an adenovirus as 'vector' to deliver a DNA sequence that human cells then use to create one specific (but harmless) SARS-CoV-2 protein. The immune system will then learn to attack that protein. Afterwards it should be able to protect against SARS-CoV-2 infections.
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In order to safeguard against cases where an already existing immunity to human adenoviruses may impede inoculation AstraZeneca is using a chimpanzee-originated version of an adenovirus as a vector. The Russian Sputnik V vaccine, hyped by Prof. de Noli on RT, uses two doses with different human adenoviruses (Ad-26, Ad-5) as vectors to increase the chance of inoculation. Other vaccine developers, CanSino Biologics and Johnson & Johnson, are also using adenovirus vectors. Sinopharm's vaccine uses an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 virus.

AstraZeneca found by chance that its vaccine works best when the first dose is smaller than the second one. Vector immunity can explain why this is the case.

A first high dose will create some immunity against the SARS-CoV-2 virus but also some immunity against the vector virus, the chimpanzee-originated adenovirus. When a first high dose has trained the immune system to fight the vector virus the second 'booster' vaccine dose using the same vector will become inefficient. A lower first dose can make sure that the second higher dose is not prematurely defeated by vector immunity but can still do its work.

Unbeknownst to me the Russian developers of the Sputnik V vaccine had come to the same conclusion:

Sputnik V @sputnikvaccine - 13:10 UTC · Nov 23, 2020 The possible reason for 62% efficacy of AstraZeneca’s full dose regiment is that immunity to chimpanzee adenoviral vector from the 1st shot makes 2nd shot not effective. #SputnikV addresses this issue by using two different human adenoviral vectors for two shots (92% efficacy)

They had offered AstraZeneca to cooperate with them:

Sputnik V @sputnikvaccine - 2:41 PM · Nov 23, 2020 Sputnik V is happy to share one of its two human adenoviral vectors with @AstraZeneca to increase the efficacy of AstraZeneca vaccine. Using two different vectors for two vaccine shots will result in higher efficacy than using the same vector for two shots.

Today the Sputnik V website announced that AstraZeneca has accepted the proposal. Trials will start immediately:

After the Sputnik V vaccine’s clinical trial preliminary results showed its efficacy at above 90 percent, the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF, Russia’s sovereign wealth fund) and Gamaleya Institute on November 23, 2020 offered AstraZeneca to use one of the two components (human adenoviral vectors) of the Sputnik V vaccine in AstraZeneca’s clinical trials.

AstraZeneca accepted RDIF’s proposal and will begin clinical trials of its vaccine in combination with Sputnik V’s human adenoviral vector type Ad26 by the end of 2020. This research will allow AstraZeneca’s scientists to study the possibility of boosting their vaccine’s efficacy through the application of this combined approach.

The British pharma company confirmed the step at the end of a somewhat squeamish statement:

AstraZeneca is also considering how it can assess heterologous combinations of different vaccines, working with industry partners, governments and research institutions around the world, and will soon begin exploring with Gamaleya Research Institute in Russia to understand whether two adenovirus-based vaccines can be successfully combined.

Reuters tauntingly headlined: AstraZeneca hitches ride with Russia's Sputnik in vaccine race.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/12/russian-cooperation-saves-british-vaccine.html#more

How US Sanctions have Contributed to the 50K Dead of Coronavirus In Iran

Not only Russian vaccine, but also her An-124s will help in the fight to save lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlOONZhds7g

Their military, police, & the old farts in charge of them + their families  can get sick too, so their lives r on the line as well. I heard that the Ukrainian leaders use the Russian vaccine despite of what they say to their people.

GarryB wrote:

So Go ahead mr Garryb go vaccinate yourself and your family with bill gates and soros vaccines , if anyone is so stupid to trust in criminal governments who have
an agenda of depopulation ,and they later die ,then it will be their fault ,because they were warned

It has always been my policy to listen to people I have met on the internet for important life decisions.  

Alright.. look how easy i can lock you ,to contradict yourself ,and show how weak is your logic and arguments ..This is related to whether or not you should trust in american -british vaccines.

answer this question... if you can..  (because i don't think papadragon will do it, since he hides
what he really believe)

question is..

1) Did you believe US and UK are aiding alqaeda and isis in Syria regardless of the life of millions
of civilians women and children and the murdering of christians?  as Tulsi gabbard told in congress
and dozens other who supported their resolution ..yes or no?  

Stop Arming Terrorists Act HR 258 (Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard)  (march 15 2017)





if you say yes....they are allied with international terrorism

that US government and military with support of 100% american big corp media are aiding terrorist..  then how you expect vaccines from a country system that have absolutely don't care a shit about its society ,and their lives , a country with zero morals and values their politicians , zero care for its society , zero care for humanity ,that is in a sick total obsession for destroying the world ,financing civil wars ,that cause millions suffering ,that sanctions venezuelan food and medicines to block nations to help venezuela and starve their people , how can you honestly expect. .and country with so bad record of humanity can be trusted the health of millions with their vaccines ?  a nation that already have a bad record in the past with vaccines? and that protect the pharma industry from being sued ,when people die? how can you recommend vaccines from terrorist like behavior countries that their banking elite and politicians openly call for depopulation of the world ?




If you say no...

that US never will dare to help terrorist , that US military in fighting terrorist in syria.
then not only you will be in contradiction with Russia government ,who have been exposing
them ,in contradiction with russian RT media ,but also in complete contradiction with yourself ,who have been agreeing with this all the time.

Is not science the problem GarryB , the problem is whether you should trust or not in nations
with very horrible record in human rights and very long record in warcrimes and that their own
elite who happens to by coincidence finance the pharma industry ,to openly calls for world depopulation.


So again the question..  did you believe US and UK are aiding Terrorism in Syria.. yes or no ?