Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #2

kvs wrote:

Tsavo Lion wrote:

How US Sanctions have Contributed to the 50K Dead of Coronavirus In Iran

Not only Russian vaccine, but also her An-124s will help in the fight to save lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlOONZhds7g

The west could care less Mad. Albright claimed that 500,000 dead Iraqi civilians mostly children were justified because the chlorine used
for water treatment could be turned into chemical weapons.   And we all know that chemical weapons are the same type of weapons of
mass destruction as nuclear bombs.  

The mind boggles at the retardation level of westerners.   More civilians died at the hands of war criminal western sanctions by
orders of magnitude than died from any chemical weapons in the whole history of chemical weapons.  

Will you trust Madeline albright vaccines if her family was the major shareholder of
a pharma company?    

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Russia's second Covid 19 vaccine enters civilian circulation,:
https://tass.com/society/1234047

Vaccines against Covid-19: "a very negative cascade" of side effects to be feared?
INTERVIEWS
17:44 11.12.2020
(updated 18:24 11.12.2020)
By Fabien Buzzanca

Faced with concerns related to vaccines against Covid-19, in particular that of the American-German alliance Pfizer / BioNTech, Alexandra Henrion-Caude, geneticist and former director of research at INSERM, calls for "fundamental standards of medical ethics ”. Interview.

The month of January should mark the start of the French vaccination campaign against Covid-19 . Paris is awaiting the green light from the European Medicines Agency (EMA), which wishes to further examine the request for European authorization of the Pfizer / BioNTech vaccine filed by the American-German biotechnology alliance. The EMA is expected to make a decision by December 29 at the latest and then look into other vaccines, including that of the American Moderna.

In the UK, which acted as a pioneer in authorizing Pfizer's vaccine, two people developed allergic reactions with symptoms like an anaphylactoid reaction after a first injection. The British Medicines and Health Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) then advised against Pfizer's vaccine for individuals with a history of "significant" allergic reactions .

In the United States this time, four cases of facial paralysis were diagnosed in 18,000 patients who received Pfizer's vaccine. The Food and Drug administration (FDA) has recommended increased surveillance. Finally, two volunteers - out of a sample of 44,000 who received the Pfizer vaccine - died . It should be remembered that it is impossible at this stage to make a link between their death and the administration of the vaccine.

Alexandra Henrion-Caude, geneticist and former research director at INSERM, is more than cautious about these anti-Covid vaccines. She evokes at Sputnik's microphone a lack of perspective and a failure to respect medical ethics.

Sputnik France: Prof. Éric Caumes, head of the infectious diseases department at the Pitié-Salpêtrière hospital (Paris), believes that "in terms of adverse effects, there is a real problem in the Pfizer vaccine", how do you assess it?

Alexandra Henrion-Caude: “The problems are numerous and indeed worrying. Some data from the Pfizer report is worrying, especially around lymphadenopathies, facial paralysis and ventricular arrhythmias. While we are talking about vaccinating our elders in nursing homes, we are still in the human experimentation phase.

AstraZeneca and Russian vaccine Sputnik V team up to conduct tests
The government has decided to implement a strategy never used in healthy people, while we are still in the midst of a clinical trial period, which is particularly the case with Pfizer. Where are the fundamental standards of medical ethics? Those who will implement this experimental campaign will they be aware of the need to clarify the consent of volunteers? Will the elderly be informed that they are going to participate in a biomedical research project?

"We must start by stopping using this word 'vaccine'"
Furthermore, even under the pretext of a health emergency, which so many free people, without any conflict of interest, no longer believe in, how dare we play on people's credulity by using technocratic definitions of words? So ask people what a “vaccine” means to them. They will certainly not imagine that, by this injection, their body will find itself, like a GMO, the heir of genetic information from viruses, which will force their cells to produce its viral protein, to create - according to an autoimmune-like reaction - antibodies directed against the cells that have produced the virus protein.

We must therefore start by stopping using this word “vaccine”, diverted by regulatory texts and putting in place a truly informed consent. ”

Sputnik France: Two volunteers have died in the United States after receiving a dose of Pfizer's vaccine. However, their death is not necessarily linked to Covid-19 and these figures, taking into account the sample, are in line with the natural mortality rate observed in the population. How to interpret these statistics?

Alexandra Henrion-Caude: "At this stage of the study, these data simply do not seem uninterpretable to me, because the duration of follow-up is far too short and the subjects - rather elderly - obviously suffered from other pathologies."

Sputnik France: Do we have enough perspective on these vaccines?

Alexandra Henrion-Caude: “By definition, the classically expected decline from serious adverse events is two years. In the case of this campaign, it was reduced from 24 months to six months. We therefore know in advance that we will not have the perspective usually required.

In addition, we understand from these incidents that the vaccinating physicians should carefully inform themselves about the history of their patients (allergies and various disorders of the immune response, etc.). By return, they will have to ensure that the subjects are, for their part, informed of the various risks, and in particular that of a possible disease of the ADE [aggravation dependent on the antibodies, note].

Australians tested false-positive for HIV after being vaccinated against Covid, the vaccine abandoned
ADE, which is described by an abundant scientific literature, triggers a very negative cascade in response to certain vaccines, including that of SARS and MERS, but also of SARS in cats, which is closely linked to SARS-Cov2. During an ADE, the antibodies that we make, instead of waging war against the virus, change sides and start helping the virus to invade you ... This mechanism, which can lead to death, can be reinforced in the elderly person.

What if “the antibodies, instead of waging war against the virus, change sides”?
Even though ADE has not yet been documented with Covid-19 vaccines, some scientists and doctors have called for clearly distinguishing the specific risk of worsening Covid-19, of which you speak, from generic indications on the risk of death, not to mention of course the generic risk of the vaccine's lack of efficacy. It will therefore be necessary that all the personnel concerned by the vaccination (scientists, doctors, and of course, the subjects) be specifically warned of the risk of ADE. "
https://fr.sputniknews.com/interviews/202012111044914113-vaccins-contre-le-covid-19-une-cascade-tres-negative-deffets-secondaires-a-craindre-/

Interesting view from a poster on MoA.

The real issue here, one that is ignored by all sides of the COVID debate, is that most of the world is suffering from a chronic vitamin D deficiency pandemic.

Insufficient vitamin D levels are correlated with increased severity of not only COVID, but also many other seasonal viruses such as various strains of the flu. Vitamin D deficiency is also intimately involved with many other chronic and systemic diseases, such as autoimmune diseases, cancers and heart disease.

The contemporary medicinal canon persists in the position that only a small amount of vitamin D is necessary for proper bone and teeth development. This flies in the face of many new developments and insights of the past decades, uncovering and documenting the profound function of vitamin D in almost all areas of the human organism. Vitamin d receptors are expressed all over the human body and without sufficient levels of this vital hormone, the immune system cannot function correctly.

Our bodies not only can tolerate much higher doses of vitamin D than many doctors believe, we actually need these higher amounts to compensate for the lack of sunlight exposure that is the result of the changes in lifestyle of industrialized humanity over the past centuries.

Vitamin D is not only unpatentable, dirt cheap and easy to produce and distribute, its efficacy extends to far beyond SARS-COV-2. Vitamin D as a prophylactic for many chronic and systemic ailments promises to slash healthcare costs (and profits of many pharmaceutical giants.)

Please watch this excellent overview by Prof Dr Seheult at Medcram:

Vitamin D and COVID 19: The Evidence for Prevention and Treatment of Coronavirus (SARS CoV 2)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2mLz-Xdpg

Another interesting angle on vitamin D and restorative sleep by Dr Gominak:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=74F22bjBmqE


ARE YOU TAKING Vit D as a supplement?

kvs:

I will only trust Russian vaccines.   The Chinese ones are on probation until I can determine if they were not joint
ventures with Big Pharma.

The evidence is already in that Big Pharma crapcines are dangerous.   That is why they had their hack urnalists write
smear pieces trying to spread FUD about Russian vaccines.

See GarryB and papadragon.. someone with common sense.. is not that hard.. or are you going to call kvs an "anti vaxxer" too ?

Common sense says.. you will never eat food, drink anything or take any medicine ,even less a vaccine from people ,or business ,countries that YOU DON'T TRUST     period.

I will never take a vaccine from saudi arabia , or pakistan , from israel or Turkey who hate
christians and have very terrible records of human rights and zero care about human lives.
Neither from any anglo alqaeda friendly nation.   the west should avoid any american or british
vaccine ,they want to murder people and reduce population.. they even make fun on population
of their vaccinations mandatory programs.


look how the hollywood elites ,use their industry celebrities to makes fun on american population
full well knowing how scared is society about the forced vaccinations programs that have been
leaded that was going to happen in 2019.

This is suppose to be funny..    specially for the thousands of americans who lost a family
member or got permanently ill ,after a flu shot taken from anglo pharma industry.  

Jan 6, 2019


a clear example of hollywood making fun of those who reject the idea of mandatory vaccines
on the entire population.

Not only this mandatory vaccines violates international laws ,and US constitution ,because
opens the door for a tyrannical government to get rid of its ethnic minority population ,just like nazis was doing during world war 2 with jews. mandatory vaccines is a crime , because no government ever should be allowed to control the life of people so easily and get away with murder by blaming any death on their poor health or get away with it by blaming it on viruses .

This things does not happens by accident..
The billionaires at hollywood are fully aware of any future foreign policy of washington dc before
they are implemented.  

Opening Ceremony of 2012 London Olympic Games was Predictive Programing For Coronavirus
https://usahitman.com/ritual-2012-olympic-games-covid/


British government  was making fun of corona virus and vaccine and dedicated their entire opening
ceremony in their olympics 2012 to scare people about virus and vaccines.



this was in 2012 , it was a ceremony full of illuminati massonic symbols..


Opening Ceremony of 2012 London Olympic Games was Predictive Programing For Coronavirus


This is for everyone – Global infection?




Interesting Video Pointed Out Stadium Looked Like Covid19 From Above: (Overlapped To Show)

People behind this scare virus tactics are pure evil people.. they don't give a shit about humanity.
and anyone that try to downplay how serious is this , are a complete idiot.. don't deserve to be
taken seriously anywhere in any discussion ever. because there is plenty of evidence ,they knew
a virus will happen ,that will take global scale proportions.. and even that it was going to happen
during trump administration.. something that antony faucci was caught saying at a conference
in an university many months earlier covid19 pandemic start.


This things don't happens by accident.. this covid19 pandemic ,as i said is a planned event,
an engineered crisis.. just like 911 world trade center attacks were.
by anglo -jewish forces , anglo jewish elites. and hollywood always knows everything before it
happen.. they were making fun of people fears about rumors of forced vaccinations in 2019 ,
there was a massive campaign of influenza vaccination and many hundreds people died and thousands injured. their effective rate of their vaccines was advertised as 50% , but they pretend
to make us believe that in just 1 year ,they miracle ,in time record ,bypassing the years that it takes
to produce a vaccine and properly test it..  this is after they attacked Russia for rushing their vaccine.. after putin announce sputnik v,, guess what? they cut all those years of testing to just weeks.. and now is an amazing idea ,when the west do it.. but if russia do it.. is bad.. [/quote]

This pandemic was "predicted" first by Rockefeller foundation papers.. early 2000s..
later was exposed a small bits of their plans by whistleblowers in 2010.. their video deleted by youtube.. look for [anglo saxon mission].. that the west was developing a virus to target china
,to stop them before they become to powerful their economy.

when i saw it ,in 2010 i could not believe ,they will dare to do that.. because chinese will strike
back.. but they did it in a way ,that targets everyone ,every nation..in a way that looks like
a "normal virus incident" and that targets also them..so effectively making it hard for china
to proof they were attacked by a virus by the american military.

What did chinese government told about covid19?
THE AMERICAN military passed the virus to us.. and even trump responded to this.
So the virus target every nation ,with the huge major difference that they know where the virus will hit and attack ,and they will be controlling it where is throw away and the western elites will be vaccinated for it before they unleash the virus.. so you go in world trade center 911 a controlled demolition attacks.. an inside job.. and today ,what we face is a controlled virus economy demolition.. done by anglo jewish imperial powers. it is engineered in  war that will hurt far more russia and china.. and at the same time they inflate they inflate most of their stadistics to make it look they are victims too.. since it will have been incredibly obvious they were behind the virus if the entire world dies and nothing happens in the anglo nations and israel.


update.. in more covid19 news..

anglo Pfizer vaccine discovered that not only is killing a few people here or there
but is causing facial paralysis.  
Who in this forum is excited for taking pfizer vaccines ?  Garryb ? Papadragon?  
didn't they were so safe?  



pfizer stocks down after this new report..  

super eye opening video.. must see.

The truth about the lockdowns.. in United States . exposed in cameras..
Is not about saving lives , but about sending to total poverty and homeless ,the middle class and all the small business ,so they depend on the government for a shelter and food .

California terrorist state laws ,prohibits small business to open ,but allow the super rich hollywood
entertainment industry to operate without a problem.

you have to see this obvious example of the fraud of the lockdowns in next video.

according to california goverment
Small business = not essential  
Entertainment industry = essential.  



Truly americans need to rebel ,start a major millions people on the streets revolution about this..
and paralize the business of the super rich on the 50 states and block the major highways ..if they dont work ,then none will. this lockdowns are not about protecting them , they artificially inflate the stadistics of infested by 1000% to justify the lockdowns. the test are rigged  ,just like the past presidential elections were.. and is not surprising that is democrat liberal states.. like california and New york ,and others that cheat to trump ,the ones that shutdown the business of the middle class ,while allowing all major big corporations in america ,entertainment industry and weapons industry ,wallmart ,bullshit media , and fake newspapers to fully operate non stop.

This is all about full control of the working class society ,by destroying small business and middle class, and by mandatory vaccinations to control people health and when they live and die.

This is related to whether or not you should trust in american -british vaccines.

I don't trust the western vaccines at all, but I might not get any choice in the matter...

All depends on why my government does.

1) Did you believe US and UK are aiding alqaeda and isis in Syria regardless of the life of millions
of civilians women and children and the murdering of christians?

There is plenty of evidence showing White Helmets operating together with ISIS and Alqaeda and the US forces and Kurds in Syria if not cooperating then at least ignoring and not killing each other. There is evidence Israel is helping ISIS fighters who have been injured with medical care and US forces have delivered aerial support to ISIS when fighting Assads forces.

if you say yes....they are allied with international terrorism

Israel and the US murder people openly throughout the world with no trial and no legal justification better than the UKs highly likely bullshit, of course they are international terrorists and they are worse than ISIS because they have more money and resources... Saudi Arabia is exactly what Israel and the US and the west in generate try to represent Iran as being in the region and around the world...

that US government and military with support of 100% american big corp media are aiding terrorist..

Western governments don't care about anyone and will kill anyone if they get in their way no matter what.

Is this news to you?

then how you expect vaccines from a country system that have absolutely don't care a shit about its society ,and their lives , a country with zero morals and values their politicians , zero care for its society

The Vaccines are not designed to kill... they have drones and custom designed hellfire missiles with samurai swords instead of a warhead for when they want to kill people... or their enemies suddenly get cancer hint hint hint.
The problem with their vaccines is not that they are designed to kill, but they are half assed made by companies more interested in making money than making a safe effective product. They hide deaths and side effects... Pfizer didn't tell anyone about the negative reactions to their product, they submitted it to the FDA for approval and the FDA and some media revealed the problems with these drugs... if it was up to Pfizer we would not know anything bad about these vaccines.

and country with so bad record of humanity can be trusted the health of millions with their vaccines ?

I trust them to be untrustworthy and their vaccine will be half arsed and a bit of a gamble even in comparison with the disease it is supposed to protect from.

how can you recommend vaccines from terrorist like behavior countries that their banking elite and politicians openly call for depopulation of the world ?

My word is just the same as any other on the internet... why would you believe anyone.

However I would say if you have a choice go for the Russian or the Chinese vaccine... if you are not able to access those options because of where you are the the government you have then you need to decide whether to risk taking these fucked up vaccines or not.

Is not science the problem GarryB , the problem is whether you should trust or not in nations
with very horrible record in human rights and very long record in warcrimes and that their own
elite who happens to by coincidence finance the pharma industry ,to openly calls for world depopulation.

Do you think not taking any vaccine is a smart solution given the lethality of Covid amongst certain groups.

I seem to recall you are not that old so I would think the decision might be a bit easier for you, but for other people in different circumstances then the factors are different and the decision making is different too.

See GarryB and papadragon.. someone with common sense.. is not that hard.. or are you going to call kvs an "anti vaxxer" too ?

No.

Just going to call you an idiot.

If I can't get Russian or Chinese vaccines here in New Zealand do you think I should just risk getting Covid 19 instead?

This pandemic was "predicted" first by Rockefeller foundation papers.. early 2000s..

This is not even close to being the first pandemic and there is no way it will be the last.

Predicting there is going to be a pandemic in the future is like predicting it is going to rain in the future.

Vann, for someone who wont touch US made food or drugs you do seem to spend a lot of time watching their TV... I hope you are not going to give up their internet...

Vann... a question for you... you are in a boat and it is sinking... the shore is not visible... there is a lifejacket but it is made in the US of A... do you put it on?

I mean if they want to exterminate everyone who is not part of the 1% then you are a person they clearly want to kill... do you think they designed the life jacket to strangle you or burst into flames when it gets wet perhaps...

I understand you are cynical and also that Pfizer does not give a shit about anyone, but if their vaccine does not work and it kills everyone then most people will decide not to take it and that will cost them a lot of business... which they will care about...

BTW New Zealand has a vaccine in testing now too...

GarryB wrote:Vann... a question for you... you are in a boat and it is sinking... the shore is not visible... there is a lifejacket but it is made in the US of A... do you put it on?

I mean if they want to exterminate everyone who is not part of the 1% then you are a person they clearly want to kill... do you think they designed the life jacket to strangle you or burst into flames when it gets wet perhaps...

I understand you are cynical and also that Pfizer does not give a shit about anyone, but if their vaccine does not work and it kills everyone then most people will decide not to take it and that will cost them a lot of business... which they will care about...

BTW New Zealand has a vaccine in testing now too...

The Vaccines are not designed to kill... they have drones and custom designed hellfire missiles with samurai swords instead of a warhead for when they want to kill people... or their enemies suddenly get cancer hint hint hint.
The problem with their vaccines is not that they are designed to kill, but they are half assed made by companies more interested in making money than making a safe effective product

wrong..
The Vaccines are designed to kill  , they are designed for the anglo jewish powers governments,
to have at hand.. the option to get rid of the population ,that sink their economy in social aid
but also those that they believe oppose their tyranny. And contrary to what you think ,they are designed to kill americans First and later their enemies.. and why in that order? to have absolute control of population at home first.. before they start a major nuclear war with china or russia which
is what they want ,to have the option at hand if the need arise to do it.

If the US military start bombing with drones california ,texas ,florida. new york, all the states,. this will provoke a massive civil war ,full scale civil war with hundred of millions of people protesting in the streets and world wide .  And this is extremely dangerous for the US elites more dangerous for them than a nuclear war with china. Because a divided nation with all population on the streets can bring down more faster any government in little time ,since those in power are only a few thousands of people or a few hundreds.. while the population have millions and the general military will switch sides with the people against their generals..

So hellfires missiles ,tanks and drones will not work at all ,to reduce american population by half or even more . because they will be stopped as soon they start killing the first 100 people. police will switch sides with the people. the natural instict of society of protecting each other will surface.

Forced mandatory vaccines on all population in the other hand allows the any military in the world
in true real practice to kill BILLIONS of people and get away with it.. if the death are blamed of
a "deadly virus" and not in their government ,and this will be very easy to do for them with the help
of their bullshit lying media empire. By the time they choose to do this ,you bet any competition media will be banned ie.. like RT and chinese media ,and any alternative media too. So americans should be very worried the day , US senate and congress censors RT , this will be done ,when they plan a major big event and that is required for them to fully control the narrative.

So this is why mandatory forced vaccinations programs in all population are criminal and should not be allowed. how vaccines can be used to install a permanent tyranny ,without opposition with the
option to exterminate its population quickly and very easily ,with just one phone call.

steps they can do.. this is the ideal scenario for them...
1)first order mandatory vaccinations on all population , get 100% of the population vaccinated.  
  a) one vaccine for the billionaires and true safe one..
  b)and another but fake vaccine this time for those not part of their elite and billionaires club.
      that will be the middle class and poor class ,and even those they consider not essential for
      the nation. blacks ,hispanic , elder people , but also those that oppose their system.

2)Second
Their vaccines initially will be 98% effective and will kill very few people . As example
a few dozen killed from 1,000 is only 2% failure. which will be see by ignorant people "Acceptable"
because they don't understand the bigger picture ,the trap behind the vaccines.. that are not designed to kill viruses.. instead to make them more lethal and more virulent. This is what
expert microbiologist Dr. Judy Mikovits told in her banned video in youtube planndemic 2, a microbiologist that knows and worked with anthony faucci which was the head doctor of trump dealing with the pandemic.. The vaccines for the population are designed to block the inmmune system of people from combating virus.. so this are reverse vaccines.. vaccines not to protect you ,but to make it more easily for any normal virus like covid19 or flu to kill you.

The forced vaccines according to doctor judith mikovits ,will be gateways ,to allow viruses do things ,they could not do before because the human body natural defenses block viruses for doing it, but with the vaccines will be literary trojan horse ,to make it completely easy for virus to be more deadly and contagious. This are fake vaccines working in pairs ,with any virus of their choice ,to kill more effectively. And when they want to get rid of any part of the society , all they need to do is unleash a flu virus or covid19 or covid20 through a drone ,and observe how people fall death withing days in the thousands and later china ,russia ,iran ,north korea or venezuela blamed for it.

what is important to remember , is that anglo western mandatory vaccines not only will give power the west to 100% control people health . but also .... WHEN ... anyone will die or live.
means that the first year people vaccinated ,they can choose to not kill anyone. or very few , the second and the third..increase a little more the death rates, but also 10 years could pass and no one killed by them intentionally.. but the day ,they choose to start a war on china or russia or iran ,
they can BANG activate their pair virus ,and unleash a virus in any city ,with people "already vaccinated with a rigged fake vaccine ,and suddenly a thousands of people can die in 1 day and then it will be blamed of another country. something like a pearl harbor operation , but instead of japanese torpedos attacking their warships ,it will be their own virus ,attacking their own population and later blame it on another nation ,to justify
a nuclear attack on them.  



So by blocking of all population natural body defenses against viruses the government can kill all population , not essential by them ,very quickly ,very easily and later the worse part ,to get away
with it by blaming it on a virus..  So this is why the military can't kill millions of population without
triggering a civil war that they will lose. but with trojan horse fake vaccines any government in the world if they decided it ,can create vaccines to kill 90% of their population.. so think about that for a
second.. The US federal government and uk too are intentionally artificially inflating the crisis ,to justify permanent lockdowns and the destruction of people ability to economically sustain themselves
and provide a shelter and food  to their families for what ? for making vast majority of potential opposition society fully dependent on their tyrannical system for food..

So if the government controls ,your health and controls when you will eat and if your family will have
a shelter or not.. then they can very easily turn you on their slave. They will be able to cancel  the constitution ,your rights and freedoms , to take your children and wife as sex slaves and nobody will dare to protest for fear of them being a target too.. what we are talking about is that mandatory forced vaccines if made legal , this is an open door , for the most vile and criminal tyranny to get
in power in any nation.  What comes to my mind are roman empire during the reign of some of their most brutal dictators ,that swim with hundred of naked children and roman emperor where worshiped like gods.. at some period. and if they liked your wife ,they kill you and take it..

So anyone downplaying forced vaccinations ,how dangerous this is , to give the power of your
government to control your health ,is inviting to a full scale tyranny to install in power , sooner or
later. in that administration or in the one that will follow. in the vaccines in 2020 ,or the the second
round of vaccines or the third one.

This mandatory vaccines program ,the west promotes are designed to kill people ,reduce population ,sterelization of womens in society ,and get away with it.. by blaming it to a "virus" , but the cheat
will be in their vaccines. and they could do it in a millions of ways ,to hide their hands of the crime.
CNN can show you bill gates and soros ,"taking the vaccine"  while saying " see .. is safe" , but like i said ,they will have a vaccine for the super billionaires and another for the slaves in society. and you will have no way to know for real , what really they doing in those vaccines ,because is not transparent. They will never allow Russia or china for example to investigate american and british vaccines under microscope  to what they really doing.  They can put HIV -aids of cancer in those vaccines and kill you slowly.. the sky is the limit of what evil things they can do ,and society will be to blame if they don't protest any government ,attempt to have such power ,if you don't resist and denounce those mandatory vaccines that will take the entire society as guinea pigs.. as laboratory rats experiments.  

ironically i do believe this Aztrazeca and pfizer casualties during the first day of vaccinations ,first weeks are true unintended casualties , because is not good for their plans ,that people start dying to early , to not society too early ,before all society already inside their vaccine trap.
what will be ideal for them is no major consequences and very few casualty or none , during the first year and only start population mass killing on population after they earned society trust ,and everyone is vaccinated and they already controlled.

how can they do this?
crazy evil people with addiction for power ,can do crazy evil things ,specially when they desperate.
and their empire is collapsing and they perceive their enemies Russia and china winning and they losing control of the world and so they will like to have the option at hand ,to exterminate any part
of the population ,up to 90% of it ,if this is the only way they believe they can continue holding control of their system and continue their control over europe and their empire.

I dunno. I work in life-sciences but am not an immunologist, although I do have some experience and training in the field, plus I used to have a bunch of virologists around at one of my previous institutes.
If there's anything I've learned is that immunology (like most science) is a shit-show, we hardly know anything that is actually going on. Especially when considering potential downstream effects that develop over long time frames. Plus when you dig into the trials of some of the "sufficiently tested" vaccines, it's never actually a pretty picture. Some of the failed ones are the most interesting reads. I think if things were fair, we'd actually acknowledge that we don't actually understand the full picture of what vaccination, especially multiple shots at a very young age, does to future development. We could then make the argument that "look it works out in 90% of cases and it's easier for society to work like that and suck up the 10% who have some shit go down". That's an argument I'm happy to have as a realist. But Bill Gates has to go all NWO on us and then governments start fucking with people's rights and that's when I start getting hyper suspicious of everything.
With stuff like this, I think I'm gonna take my chances.

The head of the Gamaleya Center, Alexander Gintsburg, has revealed the validity period of the Russian Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine. He told about this on the air of the show "Nightingale LIVE" on YouTube . According to him, the drug is expected to protect against the virus for about two years. At the same time, the scientist noted that the Pfizer vaccine lasts only 4-5 months. The head of the Gamaleya Center also added that these data have yet to be experimentally verified. 
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US Service Member in Germany Is 1st Active-Duty Soldier to Die From Covid-19, Reports Indicate

The Vaccines are designed to kill , they are designed for the anglo jewish powers governments,

I have already had multiple vaccinations... including flu vaccinations I get every year... and no, it is not something they offer to make money because it is free here in NZ for certain at risk groups.

You can make all sorts of claims about vaccination but facts are facts... diseases like Polio and a lot of other very very dangerous diseases that were rife before vaccination started are now very rare in the west if not totally wiped out... but I guess that must be coincidence right?

The western term is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.... just because the west is a predatory monster that will abuse useful things like a free press and democracy and medicine and aviation and technology to control and to kill does not mean everything they suggest is good is bad.

You do have to use your own brain on this one... if you are young and fit and healthy and have no allergies, don't have diabetes or any breathing/snoring issues and you hate your grandparents, go ahead and refuse to be vaccinated... I am sure you will probably be fine and if you aren't then blame the west anyway... if they weren't so evil you could have been vaccinated and been safe.

Even if you got the Russian vaccine there is still a small chance you could still get the virus and get sick.... I think about 275 people still got covid after being vaccinated... out of 20,000. There are no guarantees in life.

GarryB wrote:

The Vaccines are designed to kill  , they are designed for the anglo jewish powers governments,

I have already had multiple vaccinations... including flu vaccinations I get every year... and no, it is not something they offer to make money because it is free here in NZ for certain at risk groups.
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Im talking about this new era post covid19 , their depopulation slavery of population project have begun this year 2020 with this world wide plan-demic enginered event by the west. The new vaccines designed in 2020 by the west are designed to reduce population , either by killing directly and those not killed by sterilization,so they don't create families and many will be injured for lifetime ,and later the virus will be blamed for it or a foreign nation blamed for it..

But their full scale depopulation project cannot start until everyone vaccinated first.
because if they start dying in mass now , during the first one hundred or 1 thousand ,people will
know they are not good and will not vaccinate. but is a trap. the vaccine alone will not kill mass
scale the population ,but in combination with a new virus they planning to unleash ,post covid19 ,it will .

The date when they will start likely killing population in mass,will not likely happen during
the weeks of vaccinations or first year , my best guess is after the first or second year at least.
they need everyone vaccinated first or vast majority of population. so this will likely be a medium term project.. of 3 to 5 years. but unlikely they will wait 10 since they desperate, what is important for the west , is to have everyone vaccinated with their fake vaccines ,with their trojan horse vaccines ,and that just like you ,wait for the most ignorant people ,for the masses to lower their guard and trust in their anglo government and vaccinate every year ,  and then the day they choose ,to start the killing ,all they need to do is unleash the virus ,that they had planned to work in combination with today western vaccines ,that will sabotage your body defenses and immune  system
so it can properly combat virus. .and later they will get away with this ,thanks to naive people like you.

so nope ,you are wrong ,the vaccines are designed to kill the population and if they choose
a more cautious approach and wait for everyone to be vaccinated first , their depopulation project
could be activated in the next 2 years or bit later ,when people have lowered their guard and believe
western vaccines :"are safe".  this is what they want to control people lives all the way to your own
health in order to slave their population. All anglo terrorist powers are in bed with this project.
and you are an apologist of this mass crime they attempting to do on humanity . nothing good what you are doing. very shameful .

Even if true, the next Russian vaccine will beat the new virus.
What would old farts like Soros & Gates that have less than 10/20 years to live gain from it?
OTH, if the West is depopulated, there will still be non-vaccinated by the so-called killer vaccines over 3B Asians+Ms of Arabs, Africans & Latinos that would then settle in Europe, N. America & Australia, with no1 to stop them.
Pandemic Failure, Vaccine Success Indict American Monopoly Capitalism
Covid-19 vaccinations are set to start today in the US after the CDC gave the final nod to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine over the weekend. Over the next few days, the vaccine should reach all of the more than 600 administration sites nationwide, and frontline health care workers and those in long-term care facilities will be offered it first. But experts warn that the full rollout will be messy. The drug company can only provide up to 6.4 million doses by Saturday and 40 million doses by the end of the month -- not even enough to cover all of the 24 million people eligible for the first round of inoculations (each vaccine requires two doses). The vaccine milestone comes as the US approaches a staggering 300,000 coronavirus deaths. Meanwhile, other countries are imposing more lockdown measures. Germany next week will go into a "hard" national lockdown until after Christmas. CNN

Honestly I think a serious reduction in population for planet earth would be a good thing for the animals and the environment... we are paving over our food source to create carparks and boxes for people to live in.... how long can we keep doing that?

I don't approve of killing off the poor or the foreigners... I would think the best way would be reduce reproduction rates... which seems to naturally occur with education and healthcare improvements as well as urbanisation where children are no longer cheap labour like on the farm, but are an economic burden...

Over population is going to be more of a problem than climate change... one of the reasons I like space exploration is that you have to manage with what you take with you, so reuse, self sufficiency, no waste... technology like 3D printers and efficient power sources like small nuclear reactors will be key going forwards... cheap energy that is clean means water can be purified and machines can be electrified and do work for us to make things easier without polluting the air we breathe.

The serious irony is that hydrogen burning scramjets for high altitude high speed flight is going to create water crystals in the atmosphere where water normally does not naturally occur... the 28-30km altitudes and lots of white fluffy water vapour clouds from hydrogen being burned with air scooped up in flight will reflect the suns rays and cool the planet... we might get into a situation where petrol and diesel driven vehicles have to go back into production to prevent an ice age from starting... hilarious....

Tsavo Lion wrote:Even if true, the next Russian vaccine will beat the new virus.
What would old farts like Soros & Gates that have less than 10/20 years to live gain from it?
OTH, if the West is depopulated, there will still be non-vaccinated by the so-called killer vaccines over 3B Asians+Ms of Arabs, Africans & Latinos that would then settle in Europe, N. America & Australia, with no1 to stop them.

That's the way to discuss things.. not closing to the possibility it could happen. "even if true"
is a good step in the right direction.   ,could i be wrong? unfortunately i don't think so .
If there is something im good is in investigative jobs ,in truth research ,and rarely get it wrong.
and when i discover reality = america is under control by a tyrannical terrorist mafia . then i realized
in what kind of fucked world we are. i told.. "if they (US gov) allowed to get away with world trade
center inside job terrorist attacks... then nobody will be safe in the planet and they will continue
doing this and at a much worse scale in other nations..it made it very easy to wake up.. because
to do such level of crime , like crashing planes in two civilian buildings and demolish later with remote controlled bombs the building with people inside. You need an special kind of evilness
that is rare to see in this planet.. not even hitler will have done that , to murder his own people.
he was fanatic and evil but he was like trump very patriotic of his nation.

-This is why it DID NOT surprised me , not even a little ,NATO major powers, lead by US and UK
were aiding Alqaeda and ISIS to over run an entire country like Syria.

and only after i discovered the truth of 911wtc.. is when began to see more ,lots more of bad news , about other terrorist attacks, by no less than a former FBI director ,who loved his country and americans, basically all major terror attack in america ,with big bombs were done by the FBI.
and exposed them.  if you are bored.. you don't need to trust in any stranger , just listen your
own retired FBI chief , who was 3rd position most highest in the agency ,with 30 years of service.


he lost his life with arsenic poisoning , according to his doctor autopsy , he was murdered
to silence him ,and no american main stream media ever reported this. he was a true patriotic law enforcement officer for his revelations of what kind of government america have become with complicity major allies.

i have seen most of his videos and he says..
a)most big terror major scale attacks done by his own agency the FBI    
   they attacked twice the twin towers. during early 90s, but failed to taken down the building ,
   and in 2001 ,with US military grade bombs.. to oklahoma building
   bomb attack , satanism in washington dc ,children kidnapping for sexual slavery by your lovely
   congress , taking down civilian airliners with civilians inside ,satanic sacrifices on children and
   poisoning of population environment and food ->chemtrails , genetical modified food , to weaken
   people health.. etc etc etc. biological criminal experiments on population , all kind of evil things
  ,that will make hitler look like a saint. US and their partners in crime UK , with complicity of europe      
   and israel have the life of millions in their hands. This is if we include the finance of civil wars ,that
   US congress NGOS sponsors like  USAID and NED and soros foundations and many others who finance civil unrest all over the world and cause civil wars ,destroy economies and promotes violence and endless wars and fuel ethnic tensions on purpose. divide ,weaken and conquer formula .

oh but one time i was wrong.. i underestimated western level of evilness. because the first time my
investigations lead me to a video on youtube  [anglo saxon mission]. that basically one investigator -revealed that British Freemasons insiders ,revealed to him in 2010 ,that the elites ,the top most popular people in london ,was planning a biological terrorist attack on China to kill millions.  
and they wanted to do this ,to stop china before it was too strong and powerful their economy and military and world influence. so i told ,no way.. thats not possible , because if china attacked ,they have nuclear weapons and retaliate.. so i though it was just another of those fake "flat earth conspiracies" or "reptilians" that are created by western government to discredit any serious investigations about false flag operations around the world ,that are real and do happen. i also was skeptic of the free mason Georgia Stones ,that promotes world reduction to just half a million of the population.     skeptic not because there was not that level of evil in the world. but because i saw now way how they could do it , reduce the population by so much, without population starting a mass scale civil war and overthrow them..or without triggering a nuclear war with Russia and china.

but then this covid19 engineered event happened. this plan-demic started and this is when all
made sense. this is how they plan to reduce the population by 90%.. with fake vaccines with back doors to make normal virus more lethal to your body by confusing or blocking your body imunology system, and with biological war.  So what will kill people will not be the virus ,but the sabotage the vaccines will do ,to your system of body defenses to fight back virus.. is like giving you AIDS.
as you know , people who get Aids ,don't die from aids.. they die from any simple thing ,any small
seasonal illness like cold flu ,that normally everyone handle ,can kill you ,because HIV-aids destroy your body capabilities to fight illness and virus.

So if the west somehow manage to convince population to vaccinate , with enough Fear mongering campaign with the help of your mainstream media and artificially inflate numbers ,to make virus look covid19 a lot more dangerous than it is.. then population will rush to take any vaccine they given by their government ,not knowing those western vaccines will have backdoors to allow virus more easily
take you down ,get you permanently ill or kill you.


About your question.. that western vaccines will not affect Russia and china and most of Asia.
thats correct.. and thats only a minor set back.   because the real reason why they want
to vaccinate everyone in the west..with reverse vaccines ,that will damage your body ability to fight
virus , is to hold power forever , like dictators , the super wealthy ,super rich ,knows the american dollar is collapsing ,and know they can lose everything if the US empire collapse. So to hold power
forever ,to be forever super rich ,regardless of world economy , they will use this weapon vaccines
to have absolute control of people health and people lives.. that way people will not oppose or protest
them.. and by destroying american middle class and small business with this lockdowns , they will also control when you have food or not.. they want to make 99% of the anglo population 100%
dependent on the 1% to exist.  So think about that.. if people like Bill gates and soros ,can control
when you eat ..and when you die.. they can enter your house and take your children for sexual slaves and your wife if it is pretty.  and most people will not dare to resist.. otherwise your children
will die , because they will make you dependent on vaccines all the time every 6 months or every year ,to survive just a season flu ,that vast majority of population had no problem to handle it.
to protest them. and if you don't have the vaccinated certified card.. you will get no job and can't buy
anything anywhere.  so the goal of this covid19 engineered plandemic is to have 100% control of the population. The Great REset will simply even more their absolute control of society , people will own nothing and everything will be a service. like internet ,that is never owned by you , you need to pay always a service to have internet for lifetime and so this will be expanded to all things ,including your house and it will be the end of private property..come kind of communism with socialist government dependence for food but for the super rich. at least for the middle class and those not part of the billionaire elite.

There is independence , and there is dependence. they want all humanity to be 100% dependent
on western government and super rich mega corporations . No vaccination? then you can't work
or go outside. no money ? then you can't eat, total control is the name of the game..
and once anglo powers have full control of north ,center and south america, full control of all europe,
and full control of asia developed nations ,japan ,australia ,taiwan ,south korea.. then they can isolate russia and china from the world. i don't see now ,how they can win ,if people oppose this
vaccinations and resist this one world governance they trying to create.. but that doesn't means ,they will at least not try it..  i think they believe this is the only way the west can continue its empire ,
with total slavery of most of the world civilization population. and russia and china and few other more countries that will oppose to be part of the west ,like iran ,cuba ,venezuela ,north kroea ,will be isolated.

is not like Garry told.. " i was vaccinated in the past.. and was wonderful...bla bla bla" . but this depopulation project did not start in the past ,to work have to be done at the right time and the right moment.. not before or earlier. that is post covid times only.. but ...

Only when all society in the west or vast majority vaccinated.....

because if they do it.. when only 10% or 20% or 50% of population did it.. they will still have half of the population healthy to fight them.

Naturally i think they did not expected Russia or china to trust in their vaccines.. so this is a project
to fully consolidate their power over their population , absolute control of anglo western societies.
total absolute control of europe ,and their economic allies in asia , those most developed economies
and isolate Russia and china from trade and the few nations who join the resistance.  Once they vaccinate everyone in their areas of control , then they will be in a better position to start wars
in the world with russia and china likely biological wars ,and those who also resist..without fear of population protest for fear of viruses ,that they ill keep permanently unleashed to keep people in their homes. But before they can start ruling like north korea tyranny ,they will need to have
everyone in the west vaccinated first or vast majority of people dependent on their government for
food and for more vaccines to go outside . if you think about it.. they can actually make entire population dependents on vaccines to live year by year and if not vaccinated you die ,because they also can unleash virus too . so this forced vaccinations of entire population have endless possibilities
for crime ,for terrorism and for genocide in the population ,it give anglo powers an enormous absolute and complete control over the population to rule like tyrants and get away with it.

So how can western anglo elites reduce the population to half a million ?

Easy , just convince the entire sheep population with help of media and sold out doctors ,to mandatory vaccinates ever year ,by scaring them with engineered pandemics by them like covid19 pandemic. and targeting with military grade virus Russia and china and those others that also oppose the west.. but again every action.. whether is a vaccine attack on americans and europeans , or a virus attack on russia and china ,had to be done at the right time in the right moment ,to not provoke a nuclear response. and if you have very weak leaders ,like Putin is , that turn the other cheek ,when Russia attacked by a virus and don't fight back.. then it is possible ,because they can unleash every year a new virus.. covid19 ,covid20,, and spread it by drones through air ,using air major currents ,that have no borders and circle the entire world, Putin will continue passive doing nothing , and such weak leaders..with poor strategy to fight back enemies and very poor influence with the west, making this slow wars , slow biological wars that can kill millions over long time
possible ,when there is major passiveness and weakness as putin have shown and major short sight vision ,for russia future.

Over population is going to be more of a problem than climate change...

If we r smart, the Earth can sustain 2-3x more people.  

the 28-30km altitudes and lots of white fluffy water vapour clouds from hydrogen being burned with air scooped up in flight will reflect the suns rays and cool the planet...

With global warming, slowing it down by cooling is actually a good thing. In any case, most of them could be flown at lower altitudes.
There will be a lot less travel in post pandemic era for at least a decade as Ms more people will be just trying to survive & put their lives back together again.
Those who don't want to get vaccinated will just buy false certificates to avoid being controlled. There's an antidote to anything.
China, Russia, India, Africa & L. America can't be isolated- they have huge populations of poor people & border on other Eurasian nations & the USA. Some American allies r already buying the Russian vaccine. The conspirators will make more $ not by killing Ms, but by selling better vaccines that will be needed every few years as viruses mutate on their own.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

Over population is going to be more of a problem than climate change...

If we r smart, the Earth can sustain 2-3x more people.  

the 28-30km altitudes and lots of white fluffy water vapour clouds from hydrogen being burned with air scooped up in flight will reflect the suns rays and cool the planet...

With global warming, slowing it down by cooling is actually a good thing. In any case, most of them could be flown at lower altitudes.
There will be a lot less travel in post pandemic era for at least a decade as Ms more people will be just trying to survive & put their lives back together again.
Those who don't want to get vaccinated will just buy false certificates to avoid being controlled. There's an antidote to anything.
China, Russia, India, Africa & L. America can't be isolated- they have huge populations of poor people & border on other Eurasian nations & the USA. Some American allies r already buying the Russian vaccine. The conspirators will make more $ not by killing Ms, but by selling better vaccines that will be needed every few years as viruses mutate on their own.

I don't think the depopulation/one world government project is going to work (long term) , even less with half of the population ,pro trumpers angry for the steal of their election with democrats.  However what worry me is they still can try and the lots of people ,millions ,that their lives will be destroyed forever . the lockdowns alone are doing this.. There is no need for lockdowns.. neither russia or china do them any more ,after the first month or two. but the west keep lockdowns to intentionally send to total poverty the middle class and send to bankruptcy the small independent business. So there will be a hundred of million homeless in US alone , if they allowed to keep the lockdowns for another 6 months to 1 year as bill gate suggested and biden promoting.

and it looks they planning something very very big in the western coast of united states possibly a major false flag operation. They are doing everything possible in the states of california ,oregon and washington dc for population to flee from those states.  legalizing crime ,legalizing the stealing in small business for black life matter gangs.. and raising taxes to heaven and the most brutal lockdowns on small family business ,restaurants and gyms and anything that could help the middle class to mid wealthy to sustain themselves. This lockdowns have nothing to do with protection from covid19 ,but their goal is to destroy people ability to feed themselves without government humanitarian aid.

oregon not even allowed trump to send police to help restore order and stop the destruction of small business . so this have nothing to do with protection from covid19. they do want to bankrupt all small business ,specially in the western coastal cities in US and people to move to another state. some major reason should be for that that is not good at all for the society.

Pl. delete ur double post.
Covid-19 vaccinations began across the US yesterday, the same day the nation hit 300,000 coronavirus deaths. This twin moment of hope and despair exemplifies the public health fight we're facing now. Experts are once again stressing that widespread improvement in the virus situation won’t be seen until well into 2021, and masks will still be necessary for the foreseeable future. There’s also the question of who gets the vaccine after the top-priority group. Should it be farmworkers? Firefighters? Flight attendants? As we make these important decisions, things have gotten so bad in the US that roughly one person dies of Covid-19 every minute. Funeral homes and morgues are now overwhelmed as families grieve and we all brace for a devastating winter.
CNN

Vaccination against coronavirus begins in all of Russia’s regions
Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin said that the vaccination must be voluntary and free of charge:
https://tass.com/society/1235217

If we r smart, the Earth can sustain 2-3x more people.

So what are we going to do in 40 years time when there is 4 times more people?

With global warming, slowing it down by cooling is actually a good thing.

If you look at the temperature charts they use to prove global warming we should actually be in a cold period right now... what if widescale international travel with hydrogen powered aircraft dramatically shifts the temperature too far and we have an ice age... instead of increased sea levels the problem will be lack of fresh water because it will be locked up in the enlarged icecaps. More land will be created as the sea recedes but what happens when we warm up again and the sea returns to its original positions...

There will be a lot less travel in post pandemic era for at least a decade as Ms more people will be just trying to survive & put their lives back together again.

I would think the opposite... I would expect international travel to boom once people are vaccinated they will want to travel... and countries who rely on tourism will be offering all sorts of amazing deals... I would expect any airline that survives the lockdown period will have a lot less competition and a lot of demand... a few companies might struggle to move all the people booking tickets...

Those who don't want to get vaccinated will just buy false certificates to avoid being controlled. There's an antidote to anything.

People selling such certificates will be found and identified and those who bought fake certificates will likely be tracked down and get to spend some quality time.... first in quarantine.... and then in jail... and will it be a western jail or a foreign jail... I guess that will determine how much fun they have when caught.

I don't think the depopulation/one world government project is going to wor

Where did this one world government shit come from?

Not just anti vax but anti UN... not a surprise I guess...

Never force vaccination. If it is so effective then even if half of the population takes it, then it will be a good start.

Exactly... a cynical person might say that this disease is great it gets rid of the old and the weak.... well as an older person myself I would say vaccination does the opposite by protecting the smart and exposing the idiots and conspiracy theorists to death or damage...

Covid-19 vaccinations began across the US yesterday, the same day the nation hit 300,000 coronavirus deaths. This twin moment of hope and despair exemplifies the public health fight we're facing now. Experts are once again stressing that widespread improvement in the virus situation won’t be seen until well into 2021 , and masks will still be necessary for the foreseeable future . There’s also the question of who gets the vaccine after the top-priority group . Should it be farmworkers? Firefighters? Flight attendants? As we make these important decisions, things have gotten so bad in the US that roughly one person dies of Covid-19 every minute . Funeral homes and morgues are now overwhelmed as families grieve and we all brace for a devastating winter.
CNN

But lets not make this all about the US though... I haven't worn a mask in months... and the death toll to Covid is about 25 here.