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    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #3

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    Post  Vann7 Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:07 am

    Even Alex jones , the #1 communist china hater , changing his tune about the pandemic conspirations... Laughing


    He was fully supportive of the trump propaganda , that the virus escaped from wuhan lab.

    but now his own website is allowing other alternative stories , based on new evidence found. Smile


    infowars , now uploaded a report , that shows , how Antonny Faucci , paid many billions dollars
    to the pharma company that produce Moderna , just months before the pandemic began , for no reason ,the company stocks ,raised to heaven without any reason , without any product without
    any pandemic , and that antonny faucci and moderna ,teamed with a wuhan scientist for greater cooperation with money given to them too.

    In other words , now the #1 hater of china is blamed both , US and China for the pandemic ,
    that it was a mutual teamwork agreement , and that the virus or key material to produce it ,came from US.  Smile  


    So if this theory is correct , then US and china both will have to pay reparations damaged to the world.



    Documents reveal the U.S. government and Moderna teamed up to send material transfer agreements to a Wuhan-linked scientist just days before COVID-19 was leaked in Wuhan, China.

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/smoking-gun-proof-that-the-covid-pandemic-is-a-scam-watch/

    see this?
    even infowars is now opening their eyes ,that their gov ,is pretty much deep inside ,this pandemic ,
    as much if not more than china, because the west passed things to wuhan ,they did not have ,and apparently were so important , to research ,that they paid thousands of millions to wuhan.


    but i don't buy that version.. in my opinion , it was all a setup  a false flag that went wrong ,
    it looks ,based of what doctors videos , that i posted earlier , they told ,that anthonny faucci warned in an university conference in 2019 that trump admin was going to face a pandemic and also told ,US federal gov ,was in full cooperation with wuhan lab , and so other nato countries , no undercover operations in wuhan , if all major anglo nato countries were invited their scientist.. for years , to reseach for viruses and how to counter them.

    UK london olympics ,opening ceremonies ,was also full of retarded symbology ,to scare people
    with viruses going wild .

    see? a demon with a syringe in his hands , and the entire ceremony simulating virus attack on
    a place ,the stadium with lights simulating a corona virus from the air , children sick in bed , nurses
    acting like robots . tons of umbrellas ,that by "coincidence" the only other place there are so many in same place was in hong kong protest against china. Wink

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    look.. the entire opening ceremony was a mockery of viruses attacking an entire region ,with
    babies death , and demons with syringes in their hands and nurses acting like robots , following orders.. no matter what , just like what is happening today..

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    This symbology and secret messages and virus scare mongering ,theme in an olympic ceremony don't happen by accident , the anglo powers ,knew what they were doing , it was making fun , mockery of their enemies ,what was going to happen to them


    Those anglo jewish elite , in the west ,that feel all powerful and untouchable ,likes to throw
    hints to their enemies ,in which way they will be hit and attacked next. lets not forget how during
    obama admin , the pentagon top general ,told that many civilian russian planes ,were going to fall in russia, for not listening them in syria , and just 4-5 days later ,a major civilian airliner was shot down by a bomb , deployed by isis in egyptian airport . the plane was full of tourist traveling from egypt to russia.. coincidence?  not... the west told putin exactly who will be their next victims and those were killed by the US military ,and used isis ,as the ones blamed for it ,and putin did nothing.  No


    and even someone that looks like boris johnson was shown in the ceremony sick in a bed..
    when he falsely claimed to have covid19. and the usual illuminaty/freemason symbols  that are traditional of British government activities .

    the lights in the stadium simulated a coronavirus too from drone shots..

    The western elites , likes symbology , they like to send secret messages to their enemies , tips how they will be punished. and this secret messages are passed by hollywood in their movies and even
    the cartoons like simpsons or video games, the no russians mission in call of duty , by "coincidence"
    the airport the " no russians mission" was made , a major terrorist attack happened there .
    the anglo west , likes to scare their adversaries ,and will use their media ,movies of games to achieve that . and in this case, they used the london olympics in 2012 ,to warn china of what was comming
    to hit them..  

    the message they seem were giving ,was that there was going to be a major virus event , with many children sick , that health officials will become like robots and do what they told to do ,and that the epidemy was going to end , then the factions with umbrellas (hong kong protesters) takes control over the place , in other worlds ,that the pandemic today will end ,when china defeated by hongkong over china, at least that's what they though was going to happen , that hong kong protesters were going to sink china during today pandemic event , to overthrow chinese government.

    but the smoking gun , is the fact ,that in january 2020 , right when the pandemic began ,there was already doctors , many saying this was all planned , that US and universities financed wuhan lab under the pretext of mutual cooperation , but that in reality it was to setup/frame china with the virus , to later accuse them of an accident.  The west naturally could not do that ,what they doing today , blaming china for the virus ,with trump in power , because trump will have used the faucci, obama and wuhan link and cooperation to put in jail obama and accuse the democrats of treason.
    So this is likely the reason , why the democrats and all western liberal  mainstream media , including washington post and new york times , facebook and twitter ,ridiculized the idea ,of the wuhan lab accident ,or man made virus theory ,promoted by trump, so that trump can't do an investigation and put the democrats leadership , including obama ,clinton and faucci in jail.  now that biden is in power , western liberal media can now accuse china and get away with any backlash on the democrats for being the ones who came with the idea to finance wuhan lab.

    in reality mode , the democrats ,are not communist , they neither loyal to china , all it looks ,they were doing , is trying to setup china with an accident , that they were going to finance an accident to happen , to later blame china for it ,and demand reparation damages world wide for the pandemic. and forgiveness of US trillions debt..  it looks however they failed to provoke any.. and all they have now is secret informants, anonymous claims.. but they have presented no evidence that any verifiable accident happened at all in wuhan.  this is very different to what happened in maryland , fort detrick surroundings ,over there , an accident was documented briefly by all US media.
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    Post  Kiko Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:32 am

    I'm no anti-vaxxer but there’s obvious corruption in how mRNA vaccine complications are downplayed compared to other jabs. By Bradley Blankenship for RT News. Bradley Blankenship is a Prague-based American journalist, columnist and political commentator. He has a syndicated column at CGTN and is a freelance reporter for international news agencies including Xinhua News Agency.

    Pfizer’s and Moderna’s offerings seem to be getting a much easier ride in the press than other Covid-19 vaccines available. Could this possibly be because they’re the only for-profit jabs on the market?

    A safety group from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently said that there’s a “likely association" between myocarditis, a rare inflammatory condition of the heart, for young adults and adolescents after receiving their second dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna Covid-19 vaccines. The fact that the media is largely brushing this aside and countries aren’t pulling them pending a safety review, like they did with the Johnson & Johnson or AstraZeneca vaccines, shows an innate bias towards for-profit medicine.

    There have been instances like this before with the mRNA vaccines. Whereas blood clotting concerns have been the impetus for some countries to pull the Johnson & Johnson or AstraZeneca vaccines until a safety review could be undertaken, a study by Oxford University published on April 15 suggests that these complications actually have a higher incidence with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

    According to the study, the risk of portal vein thrombosis (a blood clot in the liver) appears to be 30 times higher with the mRNA vaccines made by Moderna and Pfizer than with AstraZeneca’s. As well, the risk of cerebral vein thrombosis (a blood clot in the brain) appears to be quite similar with both AstraZeneca (five in a million) and those mRNA vaccines (four in a million).

    This was pretty much ignored in the media and there’s been no public outrage about this. It begs the question in both of these cases, why? There could be many reasons but I think two reasons immediately come to mind that are obviously interlinked.

    First, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are the only two for-profit vaccines on the market. The already-massive drug company Pfizer raked in $900 million in the first quarter of this year. Big Pharma is a massive lobby in Washington and is also a huge patron of the news media, so it’s no wonder everyone’s hushing up about any potential dangers from these vaccines.

    There’s simply too much at stake for the US and its ultra-wealthy ruling class to make a fuss about these particular vaccines even though they did the same thing with other vaccines that are being sold not-for-profit.

    Second, these vaccines, Pfizer in particular, are the cornerstone of the US-led global vaccination effort that has now pledged 1 billion doses to poor countries. If it were the case that these vaccines were pulled, countries might lose faith in them, pull them and then the US would lose some of the soft power it’s looking for through these donations.

    The US wants to use these vaccines to expand its global influence and prove that “democracy” (neoliberal capitalism) is the best socioeconomic system to spur innovation and provide basic necessities for people, which is clearly doomed to fail since the severity of the Covid-19 pandemic was driven by this system in the first place.

    Put simply, the US wants to pull a “come-from-behind” victory on the pandemic and prove that its brand of for-profit medicine can address a global health emergency even though putting profits ahead of people is exactly why millions of people, including over 600,000 Americans, died from Covid-19. At the same time, Moderna and Pfizer are more than happy to lap up profits paid for mainly by Johnny Taxpayer.

    To be perfectly clear, I am not advocating against taking mRNA vaccines. These vaccines are shown to be highly effective against transmission, hospitalization and death, so of course you should take them. Any potential risks are far outweighed by potential complications from actually catching Covid-19, especially as more virulent variants, like the Delta or Gamma variants, become predominant in many parts of the world.

    This is no doubt a solid reason why public health experts are not in an uproar about potential dangers from the mRNA vaccines, since they’re the most widely available in the United States and many other countries. This is especially true if you live in a country like the US, where now virtually every Covid-19 death is preventable with vaccination. With governments unlikely to reinstate social distancing measures when variant-driven cases swing up, getting inoculated is crucial to protecting your health.

    However, what I’m trying to say here is that when these arguments are only used to defend for-profit companies’ products, and thus help them profit even more, it reeks of corruption. This corruption becomes even more obvious when media outlets glorify Big Pharma, only to rediscover their critical faculties when they write about vaccines developed in countries like China, Russia, Iran or Cuba, as well as not-for-profit Western-developed vaccines like AstraZeneca or Johnson & Johnson.

    The fact is that the best vaccine is the one you have access to, therefore no vaccine should be getting biased coverage or attention from media outlets or government officials.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/527639-mrna-vaccine-corruption-downplayed/

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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:54 am

    This story also fits in the Decline of Western Society thread. Standards in the west are slipping badly. This sort of banana republic
    rot in the MSM and government to suit the agenda of a megacorp is pathetic. The west is sliding into a corporate feudal toilet
    where everything is owned and controlled by some oligarchy. The reality of medieval times becomes clearer when you see modern
    people being shuffled into corporate serfdom. Most people are barely aware of anything. And this is the base of society's problems.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:21 am

    US used to take pride in its standards but it has been sold to big business.

    If you take a look at US products their rules for wording is different from the rest of the world... buy a pack of tictacs and have a look on the label.

    On the front it says sugar free, but on the ingredients list the first three ingredients are sugar... there is sugar and sucrose and glucose, which are the top three ingredients by weight and also three types of sugar.

    In their wisdom the American regulators accepted the arguments of big business that if a product contains less than 1 teaspoon of sugar per serving then it was OK to describe it and sell it as sugar free.

    The recommended serving for tic tacs is one tic tac... you can't fit 1 teaspoon of sugar in a single tictac... it is physically too small... but despite being almost 100% sugar it can be sold legally in the US and elsewhere as sugar free.

    The US government is more interested in profits for companies than the health and well being of their people.

    This is reflected in drugs and in other aspects too... their subs don't sink, but millions die from diabetes or getting shot because they are all chemical time bombs.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:00 am

    GarryB wrote:US used to take pride in its standards but it has been sold to big business.

    If you take a look at US products their rules for wording is different from the rest of the world... buy a pack of tictacs and have a look on the label.

    On the front it says sugar free, but on the ingredients list the first three ingredients are sugar... there is sugar and sucrose and glucose, which are the top three ingredients by weight and also three types of sugar.

    In their wisdom the American regulators accepted the arguments of big business that if a product contains less than 1 teaspoon of sugar per serving then it was OK to describe it and sell it as sugar free.

    The recommended serving for tic tacs is one tic tac... you can't fit 1 teaspoon of sugar in a single tictac... it is physically too small... but despite being almost 100% sugar it can be sold legally in the US and elsewhere as sugar free.

    The US government is more interested in profits for companies than the health and well being of their people.

    This is reflected in drugs and in other aspects too... their subs don't sink, but millions die from diabetes or getting shot because they are all chemical time bombs.


    You definitely take your life in your hands, taking prescribed drugs.

    Working as a nurse, I saw many persons have allergic drug reactions to prescribed drugs, and have had a few myself.

    One of the worst allergic drug reactions I ever had was to generic Fosamax, given to prevent osteoporosis.

    I literally had an anaphylaxis reaction to the drug, so I don't take it or anything like it.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:15 am

    Fosamax is an atrocity. It utterly fails in its supposed task. While the bone density looks good on X-rays, the bone formation is
    messed up and is super brittle. Nobody should be taking this trash. We have the same rotten FDA approval process as with Bayer's
    Baycol. The FDA exists to rubber stamp corporate profit making ventures.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:36 am



    So Moderna is renaming its vaccine to "Spike-vax". This is shortly after information started to get out that Moderna's garbage
    causes serious heart damage in children and young adults. Over 300 cases of myocarditis and pericarditis in the US. This
    number of incidents is not given any context and likely represents a sample instead of every case.

    Pfizer's mRNA trash is producing similar casualties in Japan where it affects even the elderly. The number of claimed cases in
    Japan is 11 with one woman passing away after being vaccinated. Again, it is not clear what the absolute numbers are and
    what scale of hidden heart damage there is. It is very easy to hide vaccine pathology under other categories.

    Recall that AstraZeneca also renamed its vaccine when the whole blood clotting issue started getting attention. But at least
    the AZ vaccine is much safer than the mRNA "takes your chances" rubbish even in terms of clotting risk. Of course, there is
    always some ranking organization that awards Moderna with the "bestest vaccine ever" prize. What a sick joke.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:33 am

    We are never going to know anything for sure because governments lie.

    In Thailand, where my brother lives, if you look at the car accident stats it is horrendous the number of people killed in car accidents every year there, but when you know they don't count car accident deaths that don't occur at the scene of the accident.. maybe a few days later in hospital or whatever, then you realise how much worse it might actually be...

    Road traffic accident deaths in Thailand for 2013 for instance was over 24 thousand people, which is about 36 people per 100K population per year... and as I mentioned they report only people who die at the scene, not on the way to hospital or in hospital.

    But it is the old story... most of the deaths are poor people on motorcycles and nobody in government cares.

    Government testing departments often charge a fee to test new drugs but generally rely on the lab tests and statistics from the company making the drug to determine if it is safe or not... as long as they get their fee...

    They don't care about side effects, or if cheap generic drugs can do the same thing or better to treat the problem, and as I have mentioned they don't want cures... the income stream from cures is self defeating... treatment can keep money rolling in for the lifetime of the patient and if the condition is contagious then potential future customers too.

    Drug development should be government controlled and focus on useful effective cures in the long term with treatments being something they can also make in the short term to reduce suffering.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:55 am

    Australia's Covid success crumbles: Cities in lockdown, borders closed, hardly any vaccinations… and now Indian variant is spreading across the country

    With just 5 per cent of the population fully vaccinated and the more infectious strain on the loose, Australia's vaunted 'zero Covid' strategy - which allowed economy to get back up and running - is on precarious ground

    Around 18 million Australians, 70 per cent of the population, are now under some form of lockdown after cases of the Indian variant exploded out of quarantine hotels in Brisbane, Darwin, Perth and Sydney

    Largest outbreak in Sydney, where 130 people have tested positive for Covid-19 since a driver for an international flight crew was diagnosed with Indian variant on June 16. Two-week lockdown imposed

    Business owners, who basked in the early success of the government's response to the virus, are now concerned about how much longer the constant 'circuit breakers' will continue to plague their livelihoods

    Scott Morrison chaired a national security committee on Monday before announcing that all care home workers must have a vaccine, as well as anyone working, either directly or indirectly, in quarantine hotels

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9732481/Australias-Covid-success-crumbles-Cities-lockdown-borders-closed-hardly-vaccinations.html
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:51 am

    Singapore doctors call to HALT Covid vaccination of teens as unexplained death of 13yo boy probed in US

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    Not so safe those mRNA vaccines ,when you have a very modern and developed country ,like
    singapore , used by many nations in the west as a role model to follow , even more than America , for how to do it right , a nation development , choose to stop vaccinations and demands
    US to do an intensive research of the cause of the death of 1 children in their county , just days
    after the mRNA vaccination shot.

    https://www.rt.com/news/527740-singapore-vaccine-pause-cdc/

    The most sick part is when local media hides reports like this and recruit doctors on tv to tell everyone  that they have nothing to fear , that vaccines are "very safe". All doctors , that worked as propaganda machines of this killer shots , needs to be accused of crimes against humanity ,for falsely advertising vaccines as "totally safe" , that there is "nothing to worry" and any media that did not warned a single time of any risk ,pay monumental fines , billions dollars in fines for not once warning of risk of taking any jab. No


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    Post  kvs Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:58 am

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:Australia's Covid success crumbles: Cities in lockdown, borders closed, hardly any vaccinations… and now Indian variant is spreading across the country

    With just 5 per cent of the population fully vaccinated and the more infectious strain on the loose, Australia's vaunted 'zero Covid' strategy - which allowed economy to get back up and running - is on precarious ground

    Around 18 million Australians, 70 per cent of the population, are now under some form of lockdown after cases of the Indian variant exploded out of quarantine hotels in Brisbane, Darwin, Perth and Sydney

    Largest outbreak in Sydney, where 130 people have tested positive for Covid-19 since a driver for an international flight crew was diagnosed with Indian variant on June 16. Two-week lockdown imposed

    Business owners, who basked in the early success of the government's response to the virus, are now concerned about how much longer the constant 'circuit breakers' will continue to plague their livelihoods

    Scott Morrison chaired a national security committee on Monday before announcing that all care home workers must have a vaccine, as well as anyone working, either directly or indirectly, in quarantine hotels

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9732481/Australias-Covid-success-crumbles-Cities-lockdown-borders-closed-hardly-vaccinations.html

    It is winter in the southern hemisphere. There will be similar spikes of Covid this coming winter in the northern hemisphere. Covid is a mutable virus like
    the flu and spreads like the flu via breathing. Thus there will be a covid season, just like there was/is a flu season.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:59 pm


    Parts in red font are my personal input

    ‘I don’t have a choice’: Russians scramble to get Covid vaccine amid new restrictions

    With infections at highest since January, country is introducing curbs for non-vaccinated


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/26/i-dont-have-a-choice-russians-scramble-to-get-covid-vaccine-amid-new-restrictions

    Russia has finally admitted it has a vaccination problem – but with an “explosion” of new cases driving the country’s daily toll to its highest since January, the question is whether that public realisation has come too late.

    Just 11% of Russia’s 146 million population is fully vaccinated – whether due to vaccine skepticism, doubts about Sputnik or other Russian-made vaccines, or “nihilism”, as a Kremlin spokesperson has suggested.

    But with more than 20,000 new cases reported across Russia in the last two days, as well as tough new restrictions on those who have not received their jabs, lines at public vaccination centres are now stretching out the door. (No need to hurry, make those dumb cunts wait, they demonstrated that they love to wait)  

    At an emergency vaccination site in Moscow’s Metropolis mall, dozens of Russians were lined up on a recent morning for a shot of Sputnik.

    “It’s three hours now, soon it will be four,” an attendant said as he ran among a mostly young crowd filling out forms with their medical data. I asked if it was always like this. “It’s just this week – just since Monday,” he replied.

    What has changed are a series of strict new measures by Moscow and other cities that will target those who refuse to vaccinate. From Monday, Moscow cafes and restaurants will require vaccine QR codes for patrons to be seated. Hospitals will turn away patients seeking non-emergency surgeries. (Fucking finally) Public spaces, including outdoor playgrounds, have been closed. Government and service industries have been set a goal of vaccinating 60% of their employees.

    “No, I don’t completely trust [the vaccine], but at this point I don’t believe that I have a choice,” said Anastasia Lavrentyeva, (Why was she even given a choice in the first place?) who works in human resources and also has a freelance event and training business for corporate clients. “It’s the vaccine or soon I won’t be able to work at all.” (Why are you even allowed to work? Imbeciles like you should have been sterilized and sent to dig the ditches) She hopes the harsh restrictions will be temporary, and that outdoor events will be allowed by the end of summer.

    The Kremlin has denied that Russians are being forced to get their jabs. The new restrictions in Moscow were announced as Putin flew to meet the US president, Joe Biden, last week; and the Russian president has said that getting the vaccine remains a personal choice. Putin, who is regularly filmed shirtless, refused to release photographs of him being vaccinated, despite the likelihood it would have boosted trust in the jabs.(These morons aren't even apes, they are fucking termites. Someone else getting the vaccine will not protect you, you disgusting retards)

    But facing an onslaught of new cases driven by the highly contagious Delta variant, even the Kremlin has had to change its tone to provide back up for the regional leaders required to carry out the unpopular measures. Leaked videos of local hospitals overrun with coronavirus patients, or long ambulance queues, have returned after a months-long lull in which Russia claimed to have beaten back the disease.

    “Overall, vaccination is indeed still voluntary,” said Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesperson. But he added: “If a Muscovite works in the service industry, they should get the vaccine. If they have decided not to get the vaccine, they should simply stop working in the service industry.”

    The new requirements have reportedly boosted prices on Russia’s hidden market for vaccine certificates, where dealers on messaging apps claim they can provide not only doctored reports but can insert names directly into government registers of vaccinated patients.(Those who sell this should be arrested for bioterrorism, those who buy it should be arrested for assault with deadly weapon) Similar services existed in the past to provide fake university diplomas. The practice has now been adapted to the age of the pandemic.

    Doctors see the coming weeks as critical in showing Russians that the vaccine drive is not being bungled and is being delivered efficiently and professionally.

    “This is a big chance,” said a doctor at Moscow’s 62nd hospital, which has seen a boost in Russians seeking vaccinations this week. “We know it’s either [patients coming to] us or people finding a way around the restrictions, so our priority is to vaccinate as many people as are willing.”

    Asked why Russians had resisted getting Sputnik or the other Russian vaccines, CoviVac or EpiVacCorona, he smiled: “Sometimes we need a bit of a push.” (They need to swallow their own teeth, it works better than a push) Most of those surveyed by the Guardian at vaccination sites said they had been putting off getting vaccinated because they believed the threat from the disease in Moscow had receded.

    A May survey by the independent Levada Centre reported that 62% of Russians said they were not ready to be vaccinated with Sputnik V, which was rolled out in December of last year and billed as “the first registered vaccine against Covid-19”. (And now we have the number: 62% should be sterilized and whatever offspring they shat out so far should be put under strict supervision in order to makes sure they will not spread their filth further)

    Attention has been drawn to Russian anti-vax groups that have openly opposed all jabs, suggesting that the coronavirus epidemic is invented or spreading conspiracy theories that the vaccination drive is a cover for a more nefarious operation.

    But more Russians appear to believe the vaccines have been rushed to market, or that the coronavirus epidemic is overblown. In the same Levada Centre survey, 55% of Russians said they were not particularly afraid of falling ill with the coronavirus. (That's 52% that should not be allowed to waste ventilators or hospital beds for any reason)

    Others have put off vaccinating, saying they are waiting to see what the long-term health side-effects were. A common refrain has been to “wait for the Chumakov vaccine”, which has received a PR-boost in part because it was produced in the laboratory named for a Soviet doctor who helped develop the oral polio vaccine in the 1950s. (Forever Homo Soveticus, lemmings on genetic level)

    “We should underline that there’s very little superstitious fear about the vaccine,” a researcher for Levada Centre told Sever Real, part of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. “It’s not the most important [factor] and the answer ‘I don’t trust any vaccines’ is that of a minority.”

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    Post  Vann7 Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:27 pm



    Trump wuhan's lab accident story facing more problems. Smile


    i told it before , about one year already repeating this , that american ,british ,austrialians ,
    canadians ,french , norway scientist and others worked at wuhan lab. Including universities
    in US cooperating for years with wuhan lab . And from all the many dozens if not hundreds of foreign scientist who worked at wuhan lab , most foreigners scientist from NATO ,not a single one of them. have spoken any negative thing about wuhan lab , confirming US and UK accusations , but the other way , there was one american scientist who worked at wuhan , and her experiences working
    at wuhan lab was posted by RT report , nothing but compliments of the professionalism of china with their top of the line lab.

    Now , another scientist speak , this time is an australian one... and she also contradict
    Trump conspiracies , that any accident happened , she told , that the probabilities of such scenario
    was not completely impossible , for a virus to escape a lab , but the accusations that wuhan had an accident was highly unlikely ,because she worked there , even when the pandemic started ,and she never noticed anything wrong or any team worker sick as trump claimed. in short she noticed no accident at wuhan lab , and could still work normally ,even a week after the pandemic started and hundreds of civilians were infested in china with some deaths.

    Foreign Scientist Employed at Wuhan Lab on Eve of Pandemic Denies Media Reports''

    https://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/img/107921/68/1079216876_0:271:3049:1919_1000x0_80_0_1_5a8e3bf346cc3fdb05b781b661dec6e4.jpg.webp



    In her interview with Bloomberg, Anderson explained how she was pleasantly struck by the lab's bespoke method at disinfections and overall focus on containing the dangerous pathogens studied at the facility. She stressed that all employees with access to the lab had to undergo "very, very extensive" 45-hour-long training on handing pathogens, working in air-pressure suits and undergoing disinfection. In all other respects, the Wuhan lab was no different from any other facilities at which the 42-year-old expert in bat-borne viruses had worked.


    The media never published the names of the three supposed employees, who allegedly could have brought COVID-19 with them from the lab. However, Danielle Anderson claims that she never heard about any of her colleagues becoming ill at any time up until her departure from the lab in November 2019, just a month ahead of the presumed start of the coronavirus outbreak. Furthermore, she met many of them in Singapore later the same year and heard no gossip about people falling ill at the institute.

    "There was no chatter. Scientists are gossipy and excited. There was nothing strange from my point of view going on at that point that would make you think something is going on here," she said.


    So there you have it . the last anglo scientist who worked at wuhan , clearly told , she have no knowledge of any accident or anyone ill before or after the pandemic began , neither any emergency
    operation at wuhan. Smile

    China needs to demand the so called "names of the scientist" that US and UK claimed they received information they got sick from covid ,and if they release no such information is because they have nothing , is just propaganda.

    https://sputniknews.com/asia/202106281083259626-foreign-scientist-employed-at-wuhan-lab-on-eve-of-pandemic-denies-media-reports/
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    Post  lancelot Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:09 pm

    To be honest I would also rather have the Chumakov vaccine. It is basically an inactivated virus vaccine.
    Much more well established and reliable technology than either the mRNA nonsense or even an adenovirus like Sputnik-V.
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    Post  franco Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:19 pm

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    franco wrote:Russia should have wider vaccination against COVID-19 - Putin

    MOSCOW, June 12. /TASS/. The number of people vaccinated against coronavirus in Russia has reached 18 mln people, while no cases of serious complications have been recorded. This suggests that vaccination in the country should be wider, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Saturday.

    11 days later and up to 20.35 million, so 200,000 per day in that time. Progress but still a long road ahead.

    Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko said that the number of citizens vaccinated against coronavirus increased to 23 million. Writes about this TASS .

    “Today it is already 23 million. In recent days, the speed has increased greatly,” he said.

    Murashko clarified that the authorities have already spent more than a trillion rubles on the fight against coronavirus.

    Earlier, the first deputy chief of staff of the mayor and the government of Moscow, Alexei Nemeryuk, said that the authorities had received more than six thousand applications for the work of restaurants in a "kineless" regime. Nemeryuk said that on average, about 300 applications are received per hour.

    Since June 28, only those citizens who have been vaccinated against COVID-19, have had coronavirus in the past six months, or have PCR tests valid for three days can visit catering establishments in the capital.

    Note: 2.65 ml in 5 days so if that can be maintained... russia

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:11 am

    Hospitals will turn away patients seeking non-emergency surgeries. (Fucking finally)

    Not a good thing at all, it means people needing surgery will have to wait, and in many cases they shouldn't be made to wait... ie cancer patients etc.

    “No, I don’t completely trust [the vaccine], but at this point I don’t believe that I have a choice,” said Anastasia Lavrentyeva, (Why was she even given a choice in the first place?) who works in human resources and also has a freelance event and training business for corporate clients. “It’s the vaccine or soon I won’t be able to work at all.” (Why are you even allowed to work? Imbeciles like you should have been sterilized and sent to dig the ditches) She hopes the harsh restrictions will be temporary, and that outdoor events will be allowed by the end of summer.

    Everybody gets a choice... in this case you can choose to get vaccinated or you can choose not to... but every choice comes with consequences and your employer has decided that because you work with the public the risk of you not being vaccinated creates a risk you can spread this virus to many people because of your work so if you choose not to get vaccinated then they choose not to continue employing you.

    What would this woman say if she found out all the teachers at the school her children attend had AIDS, or Hepatitis C... I rather suspect she would demand they got fired because of the risk to her children and the other children.

    You have rights but you also have responsibilities and if you don't want to get vaccinated then you need to isolate yourself from other people as much as you can till this is sorted... which might be never... the normal flu is still a problem... why would this go away?

    Leaked videos of local hospitals overrun with coronavirus patients, or long ambulance queues, have returned after a months-long lull in which Russia claimed to have beaten back the disease.

    Well to be fair if there was a lull in cases then they had beaten back the disease.

    The new requirements have reportedly boosted prices on Russia’s hidden market for vaccine certificates, where dealers on messaging apps claim they can provide not only doctored reports but can insert names directly into government registers of vaccinated patients.(Those who sell this should be arrested for bioterrorism, those who buy it should be arrested for assault with deadly weapon) Similar services existed in the past to provide fake university diplomas. The practice has now been adapted to the age of the pandemic.

    They talked about this on RT and the reporter tried to buy some fake certificates... there were two options... the cheap one which is just a certificate, which is useless because you are not on the government database of people who have had the jab so that certificate is useless. The expensive one is a certificate and they promise to put your name on database... for a lot more money.

    The reporter ordered the cheap certificate but no one met him at the agreed meeting place so he was essentially scammed out of his money.

    Of course if the FSB have any brains... and they do... they will have operatives ordering and buying these things and then arresting the people that turn up to deliver the illegal items. Put them in holding cells with people infected with the virus for a week and see how anti vax they really are.

    Others have put off vaccinating, saying they are waiting to see what the long-term health side-effects were. A common refrain has been to “wait for the Chumakov vaccine”, which has received a PR-boost in part because it was produced in the laboratory named for a Soviet doctor who helped develop the oral polio vaccine in the 1950s.

    The funny thing is that so many are worried about side effects of the Russian vaccines based on the normal standard technology and procedures used to make vaccines since the 1950s with a clear history of success, but don't appear worried about the affects of the Virus... sure it seems to kill people with respiratory problems and the old and invalid, but what other damage is it doing... there are cases of people feeling the after effects of the virus for months and being very very serious...

    But as long as they continue to get expert advice from stalwarts of truth like the Guardian Newspaper in the UK then they should be fine right?

    To be honest I would also rather have the Chumakov vaccine. It is basically an inactivated virus vaccine.
    Much more well established and reliable technology than either the mRNA nonsense or even an adenovirus like Sputnik-V.

    If there were any issues at all with Sputnik V I am sure the Guardian and many other western media sources would make us all aware of it.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:22 pm

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    ‘I don’t have a choice’: Russians scramble to get Covid vaccine amid new restrictions

    With infections at highest since January, country is introducing curbs for non-vaccinated


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/26/i-dont-have-a-choice-russians-scramble-to-get-covid-vaccine-amid-new-restrictions

    Russia has finally admitted it has a vaccination problem – but with an “explosion” of new cases driving the country’s daily toll to its highest since January, the question is whether that public realisation has come too late.

    Just 11% of Russia’s 146 million population is fully vaccinated – whether due to vaccine skepticism, doubts about Sputnik or other Russian-made vaccines, or “nihilism”, as a Kremlin spokesperson has suggested.

    But with more than 20,000 new cases reported across Russia in the last two days, as well as tough new restrictions on those who have not received their jabs, lines at public vaccination centres are now stretching out the door. (No need to hurry, make those dumb cunts wait, they demonstrated that they love to wait)  

    At an emergency vaccination site in Moscow’s Metropolis mall, dozens of Russians were lined up on a recent morning for a shot of Sputnik.

    “It’s three hours now, soon it will be four,” an attendant said as he ran among a mostly young crowd filling out forms with their medical data. I asked if it was always like this. “It’s just this week – just since Monday,” he replied.

    What has changed are a series of strict new measures by Moscow and other cities that will target those who refuse to vaccinate. From Monday, Moscow cafes and restaurants will require vaccine QR codes for patrons to be seated. Hospitals will turn away patients seeking non-emergency surgeries. (Fucking finally) Public spaces, including outdoor playgrounds, have been closed. Government and service industries have been set a goal of vaccinating 60% of their employees.

    “No, I don’t completely trust [the vaccine], but at this point I don’t believe that I have a choice,” said Anastasia Lavrentyeva, (Why was she even given a choice in the first place?) who works in human resources and also has a freelance event and training business for corporate clients. “It’s the vaccine or soon I won’t be able to work at all.” (Why are you even allowed to work? Imbeciles like you should have been sterilized and sent to dig the ditches) She hopes the harsh restrictions will be temporary, and that outdoor events will be allowed by the end of summer.

    The Kremlin has denied that Russians are being forced to get their jabs. The new restrictions in Moscow were announced as Putin flew to meet the US president, Joe Biden, last week; and the Russian president has said that getting the vaccine remains a personal choice. Putin, who is regularly filmed shirtless, refused to release photographs of him being vaccinated, despite the likelihood it would have boosted trust in the jabs.(These morons aren't even apes, they are fucking termites. Someone else getting the vaccine will not protect you, you disgusting retards)

    But facing an onslaught of new cases driven by the highly contagious Delta variant, even the Kremlin has had to change its tone to provide back up for the regional leaders required to carry out the unpopular measures. Leaked videos of local hospitals overrun with coronavirus patients, or long ambulance queues, have returned after a months-long lull in which Russia claimed to have beaten back the disease.

    “Overall, vaccination is indeed still voluntary,” said Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesperson. But he added: “If a Muscovite works in the service industry, they should get the vaccine. If they have decided not to get the vaccine, they should simply stop working in the service industry.”

    The new requirements have reportedly boosted prices on Russia’s hidden market for vaccine certificates, where dealers on messaging apps claim they can provide not only doctored reports but can insert names directly into government registers of vaccinated patients.(Those who sell this should be arrested for bioterrorism, those who buy it should be arrested for assault with deadly weapon) Similar services existed in the past to provide fake university diplomas. The practice has now been adapted to the age of the pandemic.

    Doctors see the coming weeks as critical in showing Russians that the vaccine drive is not being bungled and is being delivered efficiently and professionally.

    “This is a big chance,” said a doctor at Moscow’s 62nd hospital, which has seen a boost in Russians seeking vaccinations this week. “We know it’s either [patients coming to] us or people finding a way around the restrictions, so our priority is to vaccinate as many people as are willing.”

    Asked why Russians had resisted getting Sputnik or the other Russian vaccines, CoviVac or EpiVacCorona, he smiled: “Sometimes we need a bit of a push.” (They need to swallow their own teeth, it works better than a push) Most of those surveyed by the Guardian at vaccination sites said they had been putting off getting vaccinated because they believed the threat from the disease in Moscow had receded.

    A May survey by the independent Levada Centre reported that 62% of Russians said they were not ready to be vaccinated with Sputnik V, which was rolled out in December of last year and billed as “the first registered vaccine against Covid-19”. (And now we have the number: 62% should be sterilized and whatever offspring they shat out so far should be put under strict supervision in order to makes sure they will not spread their filth further)

    Attention has been drawn to Russian anti-vax groups that have openly opposed all jabs, suggesting that the coronavirus epidemic is invented or spreading conspiracy theories that the vaccination drive is a cover for a more nefarious operation.

    But more Russians appear to believe the vaccines have been rushed to market, or that the coronavirus epidemic is overblown. In the same Levada Centre survey, 55% of Russians said they were not particularly afraid of falling ill with the coronavirus. (That's 52% that should not be allowed to waste ventilators or hospital beds for any reason)

    Others have put off vaccinating, saying they are waiting to see what the long-term health side-effects were. A common refrain has been to “wait for the Chumakov vaccine”, which has received a PR-boost in part because it was produced in the laboratory named for a Soviet doctor who helped develop the oral polio vaccine in the 1950s. (Forever Homo Soveticus, lemmings on genetic level)

    “We should underline that there’s very little superstitious fear about the vaccine,” a researcher for Levada Centre told Sever Real, part of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. “It’s not the most important [factor] and the answer ‘I don’t trust any vaccines’ is that of a minority.”

    One thing I appreciate is a person who stands up for his or her convictions, if those convictions aren't too left field, like when their convictions harms others. So I appreciate you standing up for your convictions.

    Two persons in my small community are in hospital with covid. I think they are going to be okay. i have no idea if they had the vaccine or not. One has underlying health issues, and the other is elderly. & no idea where contracted it. Church maybe, or at a store.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:29 pm

    The Guardian is a literal cesspool of SJW diarrhea and this cited article is mostly fiction. Westerners love to question non-western sources,
    anyone can play that game and the Gruniad has no credibility as a news source. It is foaming at the mouth tinfoil hat anti-Russian drivel.

    If things in Russia were so bad, so as to make PapaDragon wank himself silly, then where is actual evidence of overflowing Russian
    hospitals. No film, no story. Some claim about some event written in an anti-Russian rag is not evidence.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:54 pm

    That's the thing. They say there is an upsurge in dead due to Covid but what is the proof? I agree with KVS, there would be videos of overflowing hospitals.

    Surveys are shit, especially Levadas center. You can skew anything. But one thing is for certain, Russians are indeed.playing with their lives in refusing vaccine for no reason.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:59 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:That's the thing. They say there is an upsurge in dead due to Covid but what is the proof?  I agree with KVS, there would be videos of overflowing hospitals.

    Surveys are shit, especially Levadas center.  You can skew anything. But one thing is for certain, Russians are indeed.playing with their lives in refusing vaccine for no reason.

    It is the western sponsored 5th column that is agitating Russians not to take Russian vaccines. These 5th column maggots are spreading all the obsolete
    talking points about Russian vaccines being dangerous and unproven. Yeah, it's idiots who listen to these scumbags that are responsible for their actions,
    but citing western anti-Russian propaganda rags to bash Russia on account of NATzO funded anti-vaxxer activity in Russia is thick and rich BS.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:17 pm

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:That's the thing. They say there is an upsurge in dead due to Covid but what is the proof?  I agree with KVS, there would be videos of overflowing hospitals.

    Surveys are shit, especially Levadas center.  You can skew anything. But one thing is for certain, Russians are indeed.playing with their lives in refusing vaccine for no reason.

    It is the western sponsored 5th column that is agitating Russians not to take Russian vaccines.   These 5th column maggots are spreading all the obsolete
    talking points about Russian vaccines being dangerous and unproven.   Yeah, it's idiots who listen to these scumbags that are responsible for their actions,
    but citing western anti-Russian propaganda rags to bash Russia on account of NATzO funded anti-vaxxer activity in Russia is thick and rich BS.


    If that was the case, then that means 78% of the Russian population believe 5th columnists lies and so thus Putin is actually hated?

    No, I don't believe that. If the population believed the 5th columnists, Putin would have been overthrown.

    It's something else tbh.
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    Post  lancelot Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:35 pm

    https://tass.com/society/1308225

    Coronavirus pandemic 29 Jun, 10:13

    Russia documents 20,616 COVID-19 cases in 24 hours

    The number of coronavirus-related fatalities in Russia went up by 652 in the past 24 hours that is the highest number of fatalities recorded in a single day since the pandemic began
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    Post  Arrow Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:49 pm

    Quite a bad situation in Russia in terms of a pandemic. The country has developed three vaccines and is dealing with Covid worse than the West.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:16 pm

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    Hospitals will turn away patients seeking non-emergency surgeries. (Fucking finally)

    Not a good thing at all, it means people needing surgery will have to wait, and in many cases they shouldn't be made to wait... ie cancer patients etc....

    Those who can't receive vaccine are exempt, those who don't want vaccine are told to get fucked

    If someone who claims he needs surgery isn't vaccinated by now then he doesn't really need surgery, does he?

    What does society gain from that type of individual anyway?

    You can't burn down entire healthcare system just to pander to some suicidal entitled morons, doctors and nurses have the same number of hours in a day and stamina as the rest of us and money, hospital facilities and medical supplies aren't infinite and money doesn't grow on trees




    lancelot wrote:https://tass.com/society/1308225
    Coronavirus pandemic 29 Jun, 10:13

    Russia documents 20,616 COVID-19 cases in 24 hours

    The number of coronavirus-related fatalities in Russia went up by 652 in the past 24 hours that is the highest number of fatalities recorded in a single day since the pandemic began

    Good

    Vermin needs to be culled so that worthy may prosper  thumbsup

    This pandemic exposed Russia for what it is: a nation of lower primates dragged forward by a handful of competent individuals

    Age of those why die from the virus keeps going down and soon it start removing morons who still haven't reproduced which will have immense benefits for future generation

    They shouldn’t overdo with vaccines now, intelligent ones are protected already and now they need to let the virus rip through the mass of vermin and cut down their numbers




    This is CNN video on this nation of antivaxxers, you can tell that both journalists are genuinely bewildered at the fact that Russian retards refuse to take the vaccine and actually believe in conspiracy crap they read online

    They are completely flabbergasted at this demonstration of voluntary natural selection   Cool



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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:05 pm

    Can you be less of a retard papa? Quoting CNN makes you more of a retard than the anti vax morons.

    Death rates aren't even that excessive considering the situation, especially since it isn't much out of the norm of the yearly rates in Russia.

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