The Situation in the Ukraine. #30

miketheterrible wrote:If it was that easy, they would have done it already. As Medvedev said, Russia has all the time in the world to deal with this issue. As time is on their side.

kvs wrote:I can see the Ukrs loading a ship with explosives and sending it towards the Kerch strait bridge.   This is the sort of terror act
that would prompt Russia to get involved.   But it still would not require any invasion.   Russia would just bomb/missile key targets
in Ukria.   But the clowns in Kiev may think that even such in and out punitive action will galvanize the Ukrs and keep it in power
for a few more years.   This is their go-to trick over the last seven years.  

Even a remote Russian response would send NATzO into a frenzy and it would be treated like an invasion.   "How dare they".

miketheterrible wrote:
You talk as if Russia cares what nato thinks, or for that matter, what Ukraine thinks.

It's rather obvious Russia doesn't care and will do what it must to protect itself and their borders.  This is just another failed to be endeavor.  No mater what Russia will do, NATO will cry and bark about how evil they are. The best they can do to confront Russia is in Hollywood with their James Bond movies.  Reality, Russia would just strike back whoever would be stupid to attack them directly on their soil.

flamming_python wrote:But they're not

And the nuclear arsenal they gave up because both the US and Russia told them to do so, and they didn't desire to keep it anyway as it costs too much. The strategic aviation they could not possibly maintain either, nor the million-man army....

higurashihougi wrote:Seems like nuclear threats is the trend of Ukrainian and Western politicians these days.

Do they want to be nuked that much ?

https://www.rt.com/russia/542792-kiev-needs-nuclear-arsenal/

Ukraine needs nuclear arsenal to defeat Russia – former security service chief....

Baerbock, a Green politician who assumed her role in the Foreign Ministry this week, discussed the fate of the multinational project in an interview with the broadcaster ZDF on Sunday. She insisted it still hadn’t met all that was required for it to be certified.

“As things stand at the moment, this pipeline cannot be approved because it does not meet the requirements of European energy law, and the safety issues are still on the table,” she said.
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Poland to ask Germany’s new leader for help in stopping Nord Stream 2 Poland to ask Germany’s new leader for help in stopping Nord Stream 2

The Greens have openly opposed the pipeline and, during the recent election campaign, called for a halt to its construction. Their coalition partners from the social-democratic SPD have been more reserved in expressing their opinion of the project.

Apart from the certification hurdles, the fate of the pipeline is directly linked to politics, Germany’s new SPD Chancellor Olaf Scholz has signaled, reiterating Berlin’s commitment to preserving the current transit of gas through Ukraine, for which Ukraine is remunerated by Russia.

“We continue to feel responsible for ensuring that Ukraine’s gas transit business remains successful. The same goes for future opportunities,” Scholz said during a joint press conference with Polish PM Mateusz Morawiecki earlier in the day.

ATLASCUB wrote:Nord Stream 2 cannot be certified – Berlin

Looking forward to that fast tracking of negotiations between Gazprom and the Ukies on a transit deal extension.. soon. Unless, of course, Putin grows hair again on his balding balls. We shall see.

Berlin tying this to a Ukraine transit extension as a conditional deal with the U.S for NS2 "approval" is going to either end up badly, or with the intended effect: a Russian bend over. Putin decides, again.

ATLASCUB wrote:Nord Stream 2 cannot be certified – Berlin

https://www.rt.com/russia/542998-nord-stream-germany-certification/

Baerbock, a Green politician who assumed her role in the Foreign Ministry this week, discussed the fate of the multinational project in an interview with the broadcaster ZDF on Sunday. She insisted it still hadn’t met all that was required for it to be certified.

“As things stand at the moment, this pipeline cannot be approved because it does not meet the requirements of European energy law, and the safety issues are still on the table,” she said.
Read more
Poland to ask Germany’s new leader for help in stopping Nord Stream 2 Poland to ask Germany’s new leader for help in stopping Nord Stream 2

The Greens have openly opposed the pipeline and, during the recent election campaign, called for a halt to its construction. Their coalition partners from the social-democratic SPD have been more reserved in expressing their opinion of the project.

Apart from the certification hurdles, the fate of the pipeline is directly linked to politics, Germany’s new SPD Chancellor Olaf Scholz has signaled, reiterating Berlin’s commitment to preserving the current transit of gas through Ukraine, for which Ukraine is remunerated by Russia.

“We continue to feel responsible for ensuring that Ukraine’s gas transit business remains successful. The same goes for future opportunities,” Scholz said during a joint press conference with Polish PM Mateusz Morawiecki earlier in the day.

Looking forward to that fast tracking of negotiations between Gazprom and the Ukies on a transit deal extension.. soon. Unless, of course, Putin grows hair again on his balding balls. We shall see.

Berlin tying this to a Ukraine transit extension as a conditional deal with the U.S for NS2 "approval" is going to either end up badly, or with the intended effect: a Russian bend over. Putin decides, again.