Talking bollocks thread #4

Podlodka77 wrote:ISOS, I ask you again what is the RCS of Rafale aircraft with missiles and bombs suspended. Those French fairy tales about 0.5 to 1m2 are valid for an unarmed aircraft, which has not been proven. According to your "logic", the Rafale with suspended missiles has RCS like the F-35. Who are you selling this nonsense to?

That whole claim about 0.5 is not valid with or without weapons.

I am not sure what this whole stupid debate Isos has with theoretical vs real life events in use of aircraft.  In training, always these jets look amazing.  When the shit hits the fan, Rafale's will be dropping out of the sky.  Su-34's lost was roughly 6 or 8.  Wow.

With that said, his comment on Iskander is silly.  Iskander is very accurate to the point of pinpoint accuracy due to its inertial and opto-electronic homing head.

Comparing it to a drone which flies and hits a target when observed from the observation station vs a missile that is smart on its own to the destination is a completely stupid and ridiculous argument. 1 is continuously monitored while the other is supposed to hit its objective on its own. I mean, we can go an talk about cruise missiles that have same issue or the fact that drones have failed continuously but he cherry picks things for his arguments sake.

Anyway, Isos is just being silly.  Maybe he also acknowledges it but who knows.  He will get over it.

Su-30SM is a solid beast. The Su-34 radar isn't that of a Mig-29. Actually, far more powerful and Medo also provided data regarding it, with actual proof and what not.

Comparing Rafale to a Su-35 is even more funny when the Su-35 was never sent to Egypt so it was never actually tested and thus anything said was just yellow journalism.

Now that is resolved, lets move onto things that actually happening and whats going on.

Isos wrote:

How old is the Slovak S300? When is the last time they upgraded it? before they joined NATO? lol

Newer than ukrainian systems that keep destroying su-34. System that were designed by russians 50-60 years ago against which 2012 russian EW  can't jamm properly.

Ukraine was a bit part of the Soviet MIC. So they have deep familiarity and capability with these older systems, including the ability to upgrade them significantly. Ukraine is quiet capable but never had the funding to do as well as they did within the USSR.

Isos spent pages on the Su-34 and proved nothing. His writing that the RCS of an aircraft with underwing armament is "the same" as without it makes absolutely no sense. Then why would they design and build airplanes that carry a deadly arsenal inside the fuselage ?
That the French military industry is rubbish, it is not, but any comparison with Russia does not make sense. From the number of produced fighters, fighter-bombers, strategic bombers, titanium nuclear submarines, helicopters, transport aircraft, tanks, IFVs, APCs, SAM systems.

In Europe, Germany is the absolute number one. If we take the "bragging" of the NATO pact about combat platforms, the Germans are always mentioned in the first place; tank Leopard-2 (performed very badly in his first and only baptism of fire with goat-fuckers), IFV "Puma", APC "Boxer", howitzer PZH 2000. And again, the Russian T-90M can certainly compete with the latest modifications of the Leopard 2, the BMP-3 can penetrate the armor of the "Puma", while the 2S35 "Koalitsiya" the best. The Boxer is quite a bit better than the BTR-82, but not the "Boomerang".


The best from Germany and the best from France.






And one more thing, I feel sorry for the Italians. I still remember my Alfa Romeo 75 1.8 I.E. Turbo. Unfortunately, I did not have that model with the BUSSO V6 engine. It was one of the last true rear-wheel drive Alfa Romeos until the Giulia appeared a few years ago. Not counting the 4C and 8C Competizione models. Italian cars had a "soul", but they made big big mistakes, as is the case with the Lancia Delta, that is, with the second generation. From the best possible platform Lancia Delta HF Integrale that was the first generation of Lancia Delta and the winner of countless rallies, Lancia made a disastrous mistake with the second generation. I have never owned cars with front-wheel drive (boring), diesel engines and especially - automatic transmission, because that's for people who don't like to drive. As long as there are cars with three pedals, I will drive cars. I won't even hear about electric vehicles - let the new generations drive those mobile refrigerators.
I'm sorry that Lancia survives today with only one model sold exclusively in Italy, while Alfa is barely alive.

ALAMO wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:
And one more thing, I feel sorry for the Italians. I still remember my Alfa Romeo 75 1.8 I.E. Turbo. Unfortunately, I did not have that model with the BUSSO V6 engine. It was one of the last true rear-wheel drive Alfa Romeos until the Giulia appeared a few years ago. Not counting the 4C and 8C Competizione models. Italian cars had a "soul", but they made big big mistakes, as is the case with the Lancia Delta HF Integrale, that is, with the second generation. From the best possible platform that was the first generation Lancia Delta and the winner of countless rallies, Lancia made a disastrous mistake with the second generation. I have never owned cars with front-wheel drive (boring), diesel engines and especially - automatic transmission, because that's for people who don't like to drive. As long as there are cars with three pedals, I will drive cars. I won't even hear about electric vehicles - let the new generations drive those mobile refrigerators.
I'm sorry that Lancia survives today with only one model sold exclusively in Italy, while Alfa is barely alive.

Do you know why Alfa Romeo owners don't cheer each other on the road?
Because they already did, meeting at a service station in the morning.

I know it's true, but...
Alfa Romeo is hard to explain to someone who hasn't owned one. She is like a child, she often gets "sick", so you cuddle her and take her to the "doctor" non-stop. But when everything works as it should, it is irreplaceable.
Italians have a sense of drama, I appreciate that…

^ i was just watching a video about the Busso V6. Busso himself died only days after the very last Busso left the assembly line in 2005/6

Backman wrote:^ i was just watching a video about the Busso V6. Busso himself died only days after the very last Busso left the assembly line in 2005/6

Respect, Backman, then you know what I'm talking about. Only once I had the opportunity to drive an Alfa Romeo 75 with a BUSSO engine. Guys, it's pure pornography...
The Alfa Romeo GTV with that engine is far better remembered in car history.

ALAMO wrote:

thegopnik wrote:: — 3 Members of United States House of Representatives for the Democratic Party introduced a bill to pull out all United States Missile defense systems and US Army troops from the Kingdoms of Saudi Arabia & UAE after the Arab Gulf countries backed OPEC+ oil cuts, which the American Government understand would favor Russia economically.

This is kind of senseless activity, as the US withdraw THAAD and Patriots a while ago, facing humiliating defeat by the Iranian drones that paraded in front of them and just hit the Saudi infrastructure.
No idea if anything was left, but the bulk is not there for years.
But who would expect a Congress members to know those things, they must be only alive to be elected. And that does not apply to all of them either!

Podlodka77 wrote:
I know it's true, but...
Alfa Romeo is hard to explain to someone who hasn't owned one. She is like a child, she often gets "sick", so you cuddle her and take her to the "doctor" non-stop. But when everything works as it should, it is irreplaceable.
Italians have a sense of drama, I appreciate that…

But I did!
My wife had 146 once, and I was busy repairing it and mine 159

So you are another Alfisti in your soul...
This is for the two of us then... Models up to 2018 did have a manual transmission.
I'm done with the cars, Garry is going to set us on fire..
Giulia Quadrifoglio (4-leaf clover)

ALAMO wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:
So you are another Alfisti in your soul...  

Not at all bro
I drove so many cars, of so different brands, that can hardly remember all of them

On the topic of cars, I have now decided BMW are shit.
However, I will probably be buying another BMW because the competition are even shitter.

Beamer = shit reliability. Only classed as "premium" because of history and because some of the cars are expensive. But in quality, "exclusiveness" ie quantity on the road and reliability they are now v much midmarket IMO.

Other cars in Beamer class = mindnumbingly boring ie trainspotterish and gay.
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Back on topic... I wonder when we will see new recruits actually striking Banderascum
Will the wait for ground to freeze? Or before then?

Firebird wrote:

ALAMO wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:
So you are another Alfisti in your soul...  

Not at all bro
I drove so many cars, of so different brands, that can hardly remember all of them

On the topic of cars, I have now decided BMW are shit.
However, I will probably be buying another BMW because the competition are even shitter.

Beamer = shit reliability. Only classed as "premium" because of history and because some of the cars are expensive. But in quality, "exclusiveness" ie quantity on the road and reliability they are now v much midmarket IMO.

Other cars in Beamer class = mindnumbingly boring ie trainspotterish and gay.
___________

Back on topic... I wonder when we will see new recruits actually striking Banderascum
Will the wait for ground to freeze? Or before then?

It is interesting that the idiotic ORYX lists over 400 "captured" Russian tanks, so they also attach pictures. I think that those pictures are cannibalized and that often the same tank is photographed several times. How is it possible that we almost never see those tanks in action ? And according to their list, it turns out that the Russians lost 5 times as many tanks.
Heavy notorious lie..  


In the BMW world, enthusiasts say that BMW reached its peak with the E46 (3 series), E39 (5) and E38 (7).
Although I like the E30 (3), E34 (5) and E32 (7) better. But maybe E24 (6 Series) and E28 (5) were the best.
I drive a 3 Series F30 (320i with B48B20 engine) and I have never been satisfied with the design of the car. It's bullshit, crap and disaster. But I still have rear wheel drive, the manual transmission and the classic handbrake.
I didn't have any major mechanical problems but I much preferred the E46 3 Series (325i with M54 engine) I had before that. The car was also lighter, therefore more manageable, and I had an inline six-cylinder. There is no replacement for displacement. In the F30 3 Series you only get the inline 6 engine with 335i (2979 cm3 and N55 engine), although only the 340i with the B58 is a full hit - Both are too expensive ! So you have engines up to 2000 cc and up to 3000 cc and there is nothing in between. The first are with 4 cylinders, while these with up to 3000 cubic meters are with inline 6 engines. They also have models in F30 316 and 318 with less than 1600 cm3, but I don't want to write about that garbage.
The latest 3 Series (G20) no longer has a manual transmission (except the M3), so I'm not interested in that car.
Therefore, the market is spoiled by smaller engines with a lot of unnecessary equipment and some kind of M (S or AMG) packages, while what is worth the most (engine) is now too expensive and beyond the reach of most.
Anyway, I always liked the M5 (E28) the best.



However, the Honda NSX is something I dreamed about and will remain just a dream. You probably know who is in the picture in front of the car, right ?

Can we have a cleanup of this thread and remove the non-ukraine conflict related stuff?

ALAMO wrote:WOW! how bizarre!  

Patriot intercepted Scuds during GW 1, yet the "intercepted" scuds were able to hit the target.

ALAMO wrote:At least in India I guess        

That Indian fellow might be able to explain, assuming he had some third world education or whatever.

ALAMO wrote:

Tolstoy wrote:

ALAMO wrote:WOW! how bizarre!  

Patriot intercepted Scuds during GW 1, yet the "intercepted" scuds were able to hit the target.

ALAMO wrote:At least in India I guess        

That Indian fellow might be able to explain, assuming he had some third world education or whatever.

I close my case
I still don't get why you need multiple accounts.
Scratching your balls? It is still masturbation, you know?

My friend, you won with a clean knockout..

ALAMO wrote:I still don't get why you need multiple accounts.

You should know. You have created more multiple accounts than anyone else on this forum barring maybe that/those Indians.

Podlodka what happened? Serbs were winning

And they let xhaka and Shaqiri embarass Serbs again

I wanted Serbs to win

Kosovo je srbjia

Mother f#@k albania

We lost, our defense is bad and that's about it.

These are provocative, really hoped Serbia would go through with that much talent Mitrovic,

As you said, defense was lacking