The Situation in the Ukraine. #32

Russia just needs to stop bsing and around and put some novator/extended iskander missiles with nukes in Venezuela. Shouldn’t be too hard to smuggle about 20 or so with tactical nukes undetected. Than use that to negotiate over Ukraine and get some concessions. Should have the range to hit Florida or Texas.

bitcointrader70 wrote:Russia just needs to stop bsing and around and put some novator/extended iskander missiles with nukes in Venezuela. Shouldn’t be too hard to smuggle about 20 or so with tactical nukes undetected. Than use that to negotiate over Ukraine and get some concessions. Should have the range to hit Florida or Texas.

Russia already has range to hit Florida, Texas and rest of North America

Installing anything in Venezuela gives USA exactly what they want

And why would they have to smuggle anything? They ain't Iran, they could just fly them over there if they wanted to

Diplomacy isn't working. To keep nato far away they need Ukraine as a buffer zone where they will put early warning radars. The military solution is the only left.

Diplomacy not working, the military solution is not a solution, the only remaining solution is to cut all ties and relations with the west and develop ties with the rest of the world.

Russian State Duma recognize independent states of DNR and LNR and sent document to be signed by president Putin, who have time for 30 day to sign it.

Russia has no say who joins HATO, the US/UK/west has no say to independent states joining all sorts of organisations... the rail line/silk route from China to the EU could stop at the Donbass/Lugansk so they can send their coal to China, while any EU traffic can go through Belarus...

Lol your full of shit, We will not sign an INF treaty unless China also signs on. You are taking the remarks out of context. This alone shows how delusional you are thinking.

The first one was signed to get rid of the SS-20 which was very widely deployed and in service... this time around I suspect it is a land based Zircon they are afraid of... they could fit them in large numbers in trains and have them rolling around the place all the time with conventional warheads ready to go... or nuke warheads with a bit of a fiddle when needed.

In return Russia will I'm sure be happy to sign that treaty on hypersonic cruise missile development that Washington wants, at least for what concerns submarines and vessels. Then it will cancel its Zirkon program and destroy its stocks

They have a range of new hypersonic missiles on the way... once opened you cannot close Pandoras box... and there is no way the US will ban itself from developing similar weapon technology even if it takes them an extra decade or so.

It is not in Russia's strategic interests to recognise them yet as, if the Minsk deal is implemented, Russia needs them to be in Ukraine as a political balancing force to help stop any NATO application. If Minsk goes down the tubes then maybe then, we will see.

7 years and two elections in Kiev and zero progress on even having a single chat with these two groups, let alone any progress.

The threat to recognise them might be the only way to start the talks they already promised to have... and if they don't well they weren't going to implement Minsk so at least with recognition Russia can treat those regions as the non hostile neighbours they are.

As part of the Ukraine they would have little influence on the rest of the collective and might be dragged into war with Russia anyway.

Recognising them as independent does not violate the Minsk agreements, because Russia is not obliged to do anything within the Minsk agreements... Kiev was and it has so far refused, so if these regions can't talk with Kiev and continue to be shelled and harrassed by Kiev, the very least Russia could do is recognise them and start trading which would include delivering military support the way the west has supported Kiev... but also restore broken economic trade with Russia that was significant and was critical to the growth and development of all of the Ukraine... these regions will get that back, but the rest of the Ukraine will not by their own choice.

These regions can still play at being the Ukraine.

Looking at how many countries the west has broken up I am surprised they object so much to this happening to the Ukraine.

Shouldn’t be too hard to smuggle about 20 or so with tactical nukes undetected. Than use that to negotiate over Ukraine and get some concessions. Should have the range to hit Florida or Texas.

No need to smuggle anything.

A couple of TOPOL trucks would be fine... and send the message...

PapaDragon wrote:Installing anything in Venezuela gives USA exactly what they want

U.S ensured the Soviet Union collapses without firing a single shot. USSR will likely still be alive if oil wasn't @ $10.

Oil @ $100 is the greatest buffer to Russian aggression. For the U.S the answer lies elsewhere - deals with Iran and Venezuela which could significantly up-end oil prices.

not good news:

seems there is an ongoing engagement:


Uploader says in the comments he does not know who shot first.

Russia embassy burning documents?.


i cant find anything suggesting direct contact, only artillery fire so far.

Per chance sanctions lifted on Iran , and sanctions imposed on Russia , then Iran exports to Europe instead / as well as China ; and Russia exports to China instead / as well as Europe . The important factor is to allow each a fair share of the market , and by allowing a return by exporters to their traditional markets . If Russia for example was not able to export via NS2 to Germany , and by exporting to China , still had excess capacity , then it could export to Iran for transit to Germany . Source difficult to determine . But if not possible , then Iran could export to Germany , until political problems solved and NS2 back online . Iran's traditional export market in Europe were Italy and Greece , with very small share for UK . I think there is enough demand worldwide , to keep everybody busy . If Iran carries " Iranian " gas for Germany , then Russia carries " Russian " oil  for Syria !

The "Day of National Unity" parades were amusing.
The 70k capacity Kiev stadium had ZERO spectators and about 50 fuckwits around the running track with blue and yellow banners.
That managed to make the British BBC news.
Along with 8 firemen dimwits hoisting a flag for the camera for 2 minutes.

RTN wrote:U.S ensured the Soviet Union collapses without firing a single shot. USSR will likely still be alive if oil wasn't @ $10.

Oil @ $100 is the greatest buffer to Russian aggression. For the U.S the answer lies elsewhere - deals with Iran and Venezuela which could significantly up-end oil prices.

When the USSR existed, the U.S was not a major exporter of oil and gas. Today it is, especially due to Hydraulic fracturing or fracking.

Therefore, if the price of gas nosedives, it will take the U.S economy with it.

flamming_python wrote:If I had to guess, I'd say that Iran's 'warming' with the West is being done in full co-ordination with Russia and China, who are mindful of Iran's interests and its desire for economic relief.

Interesting! Given the fact that the U.S is trying to ensure that the price of oil falls, drastically. And this effort of the U.S if successful will hurt Russia economically.

Will not hurt them much. We already witnessed that. The dove in value didn't affect Russia.

We are in contact with friends of ours up north. We have fewer now, a few years back our closest friends were killed when an orc Grad missile went right in their kitchen window, killing the mother and father, grandmother and grandfather, four neighbors and four show quality kolies. We had known them for years, they were 'dog people' like us. The nearest NAF forces were five kilometers away, ergo the packet of Grad missiles fired in to their cluster of 7 story flats buildings was purely and simply a terror attack.

Those we still have reported, as stated earlier, that they have been evacuated to more safe areas whether they wanted to or not. They also reported that the fighting is intensifying, at times heavy artillery fire is heard along with small arms fire therefore the fighting is at times up close and personal. While the fighting along the lines of contact in Novorossiya is intensifying there will be no sudden influx of Russian troops (there never was), the South Wind is already beginning to blow and I have no doubts that the North Wind will also blow.

Unlike last time, this time VCO has categorically forbidden to me to go north again. Dammit. What, she thinks I'll live forever? She knows how many years I have left as do I.

Let the youngster's deal with it... enjoy your time left!

Igor Strelkov on today's escalation

Summary of the LDPR (supplemented, the top messages - as they become available).

Documents are being burned at the Russian embassy in Kiev. This already looks like a start.

From the LPR, they report massive (far from zeroing in) artillery strikes by Ukrainians on corps positions near Bakhmutka. And not only there. Already existing losses and destruction of positions are reported. This area is one of the most likely objects of attack during the offensive of the Ukrainians.

152-mm howitzers joined the shelling of the positions of the corps on the western outskirts of Donetsk. Zolotoe is also under heavy shelling.

Shelling is recorded almost along the entire front line. Not to say that it was very intense, but in comparison with the multi-day almost complete lull of the past decade, there is a sharp change in the situation. Possibly a shootout.
It is also very characteristic that the hysteria of the Kiev authorities about the "imminent attack of the Russian Federation" has not gone away. On the contrary, it continues to gain momentum. »

Scott Ritter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1494336577828364301

USA, UK and Roman histories, among others, have shown that if you rape, steal and pillage nations, they love, support and remain loyal to you in return (look for example how Serbia/Montenegro love to be a USA lapdog after being bombed). The midget propably hasn't learn this history lesson and respect those Ukrainian low lifes too much. Small time hustlers like them, only respect power.

Hannibal Barca wrote:USA, UK and Roman histories, among others, have shown that if you rape, steal and pillage nations, they love, support and remain loyal to you in return (look for example how Serbia/Montenegro love to be a USA lapdog after being bombed). The midget propably hasn't learn this history lesson and respect those Ukrainian low lifes too much. Small time hustlers like them, only respect power.

If you insist on being dumb little ¢unt by all means do but at least don't add insult to injury by stuffing Serbia in the same bracket as Montenegro

I am pretty thick skinned but even I have limits and this went way beyond one of them

UK, France, Poland circa 1938

sundoesntrise wrote:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealScottRitter/status/1494336577828364301

Westerners are fully brainwashed. It does not even enter their brains that Russia could launch an R2P mission to defend the Donbass
from Kiev's ethnic cleansing campaign. All they can think of is "Russian invasion" like Pavlov's dogs drooling in a conditioned reflex.

Hannibal Barca wrote:USA, UK and Roman histories, among others, have shown that if you rape, steal and pillage nations, they love, support and remain loyal to you in return

UK does not have any culture. It remains an uncivilized state.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1494231590951702528

That's so fake. No sign of explosion at all. They can do better...

Isos wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1494231590951702528

That's so fake. No sign of explosion at all. They can do better...

White helmet tactic. Use a hammer, claim it was a bomb.