Russian special military operation in Ukraine

Finty wrote:https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1496725796534341634

! Ukraine's central military command reports Russia bombed several airports, including Kyiv Boryspil, Nikolaev, Kramatorsk, Kherson. Kharkiv military airport is burning.

Also

Ukraine reports taking down 5 Russian military airplanes and 11 helicopters over Ukrainian territory in the Luhansk

Not a single proof of Ukrainians shooting down anything, we will wait and see if their claims have any truth to them

Finty wrote:

Cheetah wrote:

Finty wrote:What was acceptable years ago isn’t acceptable now. This is just pure and simple aggression based on nationalism/ nostalgia, both of which are cancerous. Just trying to appeal to braindead peasants.

I find it hard to believe that man that brought Russia to where it is, from the miserable state it was in in the 90s, also has a crippling desire to see the world burn. Both Georgia and Ukraine have been regional conflicts that were directly and strategically relevant for Russia. The same cannot be said for various conflicts carried out by western coalitions since that very same time.

Not that relevant, suppose that Ukraine had joined NATO then it wouldn't be much of a big deal, all things considered.

The West's wars were mostly flawed attempts at delivering peace/democracy whilst creating work for arms manufacturers.

Try justifying this all you want, it can't be without admitting it comes down to wanting the USSR back.

The ignorance is strong with this one.
Ukraine joining NATO is just the top of the iceberg.
Try MI6 funding of chechen militants in Russia, the economic shock therapy enforced on Russia by the west, bombing of Serbia, stealing Kosovo, the Libya debacle, Syria. The listy goes on and on, and will keep on going if no one put their foot down. The west have had their fun with Russia sitting on the sidelines. Try coping.

Oh yeah, and please send some camera's to Taiwan. Might get some fireworks there, if Russia gets out of swift then USA has to run out of semiconductors.

Regular wrote:

Rasisuki Nebia wrote:I guess it's 100% confirmed, Kharkiv is under Russian control, Ukrainian soldiers are fleeing Odessa en mass  

Picture from Nov 10, 2014.

I even remember this, but you can google the source.

Not sure what to believe regards your further claims if you can't get this right

I see, overwhelming info and conflicting reports on everything, the City is closed and fighting is ongoing, i guess we'll wait for things to clear out.

Finty wrote:https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1496725796534341634

! Ukraine's central military command reports Russia bombed several airports, including Kyiv Boryspil, Nikolaev, Kramatorsk, Kherson. Kharkiv military airport is burning.

Also

Ukraine reports taking down 5 Russian military airplanes and 11 helicopters over Ukrainian territory in the Luhansk

It is 1 heli and 5 planes. He corrected himself. What is your point Finty?

caveat emptor wrote:

Finty wrote:https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1496725796534341634

! Ukraine's central military command reports Russia bombed several airports, including Kyiv Boryspil, Nikolaev, Kramatorsk, Kherson. Kharkiv military airport is burning.

Also

Ukraine reports taking down 5 Russian military airplanes and 11 helicopters over Ukrainian territory in the Luhansk

It is 1 heli and 5 planes. He corrected himself. What is your point Finty?

Yes, and not a single shred of evidence and Russia denied. Remember, this is coming from the people who said they would win a conflict with Russia and now it's coming out that they are losing faster than Georgia did. So who would you believe?

EkErilaz wrote:

Finty wrote:

Cheetah wrote:

Finty wrote:What was acceptable years ago isn’t acceptable now. This is just pure and simple aggression based on nationalism/ nostalgia, both of which are cancerous. Just trying to appeal to braindead peasants.

I find it hard to believe that man that brought Russia to where it is, from the miserable state it was in in the 90s, also has a crippling desire to see the world burn. Both Georgia and Ukraine have been regional conflicts that were directly and strategically relevant for Russia. The same cannot be said for various conflicts carried out by western coalitions since that very same time.

Not that relevant, suppose that Ukraine had joined NATO then it wouldn't be much of a big deal, all things considered.

The West's wars were mostly flawed attempts at delivering peace/democracy whilst creating work for arms manufacturers.

Try justifying this all you want, it can't be without admitting it comes down to wanting the USSR back.

The ignorance is strong with this one.
Ukraine joining NATO is just the top of the iceberg.
Try MI6 funding of chechen militants in Russia, the economic shock therapy enforced on Russia by the west, bombing of Serbia, stealing Kosovo, the Libya debacle, Syria. The listy goes on and on, and will keep on going if no one put their foot down. The west have had their fun with Russia sitting on the sidelines. Try coping.

I won't be doing much coping. The ones who will have to cope will be the grieving friends and family of the Russian and Ukrainian dead. If the politicians were the ones who had do do the fighting, there wouldn't be any.

Rasisuki Nebia wrote:
I see, overwhelming info and conflicting reports on everything, the City is closed and fighting is ongoing, i guess we'll wait for things to clear out.

Same here, same sources contradict themselves 10 times, no one knows what is going. There is only a video of Ukrainian civilians filming a road blockade under fire and that's it. Give it few hours and it will be clear.

Gotta say I was surprised this morning.
I genuinely expected a limited operation. At most some strikes outside of eastern Ukraine. But here it is, an end to the entire Ukrainian military from east to west.
Goddamn, we live in crazy times. I just hope as few people as possible are killed.

Finty wrote:

EkErilaz wrote:

Finty wrote:

Cheetah wrote:

Finty wrote:What was acceptable years ago isn’t acceptable now. This is just pure and simple aggression based on nationalism/ nostalgia, both of which are cancerous. Just trying to appeal to braindead peasants.

I find it hard to believe that man that brought Russia to where it is, from the miserable state it was in in the 90s, also has a crippling desire to see the world burn. Both Georgia and Ukraine have been regional conflicts that were directly and strategically relevant for Russia. The same cannot be said for various conflicts carried out by western coalitions since that very same time.

Not that relevant, suppose that Ukraine had joined NATO then it wouldn't be much of a big deal, all things considered.

The West's wars were mostly flawed attempts at delivering peace/democracy whilst creating work for arms manufacturers.

Try justifying this all you want, it can't be without admitting it comes down to wanting the USSR back.

The ignorance is strong with this one.
Ukraine joining NATO is just the top of the iceberg.
Try MI6 funding of chechen militants in Russia, the economic shock therapy enforced on Russia by the west, bombing of Serbia, stealing Kosovo, the Libya debacle, Syria. The listy goes on and on, and will keep on going if no one put their foot down. The west have had their fun with Russia sitting on the sidelines. Try coping.

I won't be doing much coping. The ones who will have to cope will be the grieving friends and family of the Russian and Ukrainian dead. If the politicians were the ones who had do do the fighting, there wouldn't be any.

Judging by how hard you were lying about democracy spreading and how some believed it, and the events going on, I say you are the one trying to Cope hard.  I mean, you don't need to be here if you feel this is all russias fault and that your shit country didn't instigate this.  You can always leave and take your piss poor takes with you. I ain't coping. I know for a fact Canada is also heavily responsible for this and I feel we should be held accountable now as well.

People will die in this conflict. Russias so far response has been military sites. We shall see where it goes from here.

Maximmmm wrote:Gotta say I was surprised this morning.
I genuinely expected a limited operation. At most some strikes outside of eastern Ukraine. But here it is, an end to the entire Ukrainian military from east to west.
Goddamn, we live in crazy times. I just hope as few people as possible are killed.

Same here and agreed, my heart sank when I saw the map of cities that had been shelled.

miketheterrible wrote:
Judging by how hard you were lying about democracy spreading and how some believed it, and the events going on, I say you are the one trying to Cope hard.  I mean, you don't need to be here if you feel this is all russias fault and that your shit country didn't instigate this.  You can always leave and take your piss poor takes with you.

Just admit you don't have the nuance to understand sarcasm. Possible sign of autism?

plenty of videos on twitter and telegram channels of kalibr hitting military installations.

Finty wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:
Judging by how hard you were lying about democracy spreading and how some believed it, and the events going on, I say you are the one trying to Cope hard.  I mean, you don't need to be here if you feel this is all russias fault and that your shit country didn't instigate this.  You can always leave and take your piss poor takes with you.

Just admit you don't have the nuance to understand sarcasm. Possible sign of autism?

It wasn't sarcasm and you know it. You are switching gears when not just I but others called you out on it. You can admit you either lied or were misinformed and no one would care to hold it over your head. But if you are now going to say that I and others who called you out, are autistic, then there is more wrong with you than us.

Remember, it isn't just I who called you out. So please, don't try to change what you were saying.

Big_Gazza wrote:

Finty wrote:The West's wars were mostly flawed attempts at delivering peace/democracy...

If you actually believe that you're a rucking fetard.  Seriously.

I'm an ex-Brit.  I used to be uber-patriotic when I was young (cried when the HMS sheffield was sunk...) but I wisened up and learnt what was really happening around this small planet of ours.  Now I hate and despise the British ruling class as much as the degenerate Murkan Imperium.  Maybe if you live long enough you too will eventually get a clue...

He is going to call you autistic now cause he was "joking" after I and a few others called him out.

Just because I explained what the west was doing doesn’t mean I was defending their military interventions. In the same way I’m not defending this current invasion. I thought that was clear but obviously not.

Finty wrote:
I won't be doing much coping. The ones who will have to cope will be the grieving friends and family of the Russian and Ukrainian dead. If the politicians were the ones who had do do the fighting, there wouldn't be any.

It's still early times but I would dare to say that this is not going to be the blood bath the West was hoping for. It is now a god time for the free thinking people in Ukraine to revolt and take their country back from Western installed fascists.

Lots of stupid bitching here.

How's the invasion going?

Enjoy your sanctions I guess. Will be interesting to see just how stubborn ukr resistance was once all the fighting is done because if it’s not then that will suggest the whole thing is in fact a civil war and one the west shouldn’t actually give a shit about.

Zelensky still giving addresses. Not that anyone currently in Ukraine gives a shit but as this drags, a clamp on those addresses and on the propaganda flow must be placed.

The man is staying in Kiev and not running for a reason. They believe Russia won't force them out or they wish to force Russia to force him out. Just like the Kiev regime didn't bite the casus belli when the Donbas got recognized. They're playing the innocent lamb card really well in their own little theater, to amplify the "evil" Russia image and stoke righteous sentimentality and resistance.

Their calculation is also assuming that even in the event Russia forces him out, Russia will not take a shot at his life and negotiate a release. Otherwise they would've have ran long ago.

That calculation must be completely erased, and soon. Like real soon.

Why not move capital city of Ukraine further East ? Into Russian dominated area of country ? Are they not the majority anyway ? Rename it after ........Putin ? ........Let me see now , my Russian is non-existent , how about :  Putinsburgh , Putingrad ? Closer distance to Russia border also means better communication ? In case internet was hacked by NATO  ? Seriously , Kiev remaining financial hub or tourist attraction ?