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    Post  Firebird Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:35 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Ukraine civilian in kiev , giving her views.. on the conflict..  a video of kiev what civilians doing , interesting report..  




    That Reznikova woman is an arsehole. She's full of hohol Nationalist anti Russian shit. Defending Sakhashvili when he refused to find the Odessa massacre instigators and much other garbage.
    Now she pretends Russians are some "mongolid race" completely detached from "Ukrainians" (her words).

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:36 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Some one needs to fix that last message theres multiple posts on one long thread

    That is you buddy. Just edit your post up there and remove everything.

    It's to do with the embedding Twitter feature. I had same issue earlier.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:37 pm

    Aristide wrote:Difference is, we will destroy anything Russia trades with. Pipelines can also be blown up inside Russia. Its a big country.

    And with evrything confiscated within EU that belonged to Russia we can finance Ukraine war for freedom

    It rather amusing reading this cheese-eating surrender-money trying to talk big. What a rucking fetard. Still angry about WW2 by the sounds of his butt-hurtiness Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Hole Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:37 pm

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:38 pm

    Firebird wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:Ukraine civilian in kiev , giving her views.. on the conflict..  a video of kiev what civilians doing , interesting report..  




    That Reznikova woman is an arsehole.  She's full of hohol Nationalist anti Russian shit. Defending Sakhashvili when he refused to find the Odessa massacre instigators and much other garbage.
    Now she pretends Russians are some "mongolid race" completely detached from "Ukrainians" (her words).


    You mean poroshenko?

    Anyway, she is gonna flee and not protect her glorious Ukraine.

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    Post  George1 Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:40 pm

    @Hole why your links arent embed correctly? i am tired to edit them
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:43 pm

    George1 is that me ? I try to delete my post, but i have no delete option

    I replied to hole post of burning radar mast, and asked about SEAD mission

    But cant delete
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    Post  George1 Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:46 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:George1 is that me ? I try to delete my post, but i have no delete option

    I replied to hole post of burning radar mast, and asked about SEAD mission

    But cant delete

    not you, 75-80% of Hole's twitter links arent embed correctly (at least from my view). Your post-reply i saw it, its ok, i deleted it Smile

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    Post  Vann7 Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:46 pm

    Regular wrote:https://twitter.com/i/status/1496849053824471041

    Ukrainians will be throwing everything at them. Literally, everything.

    Any prognosis?

    A good tactic , that i will do , if was general , is to find a good airport in a strategic place ,that can be defended very well by russian army.. and in case of problems have the rear flank covered for quick retreat  . So capturing kiev , even if symbolical in military terms , can be very useful ,as physological victory.. it can encourage ukrainians army to surrender if their capital captured.

    This also will have a real impact in the morale of ukie army.. fighting elsewhere , if for example they understand russia captured kiev.. then this could trigger mass defections in ukraine army and change of loyalty , and a new temporary government .

    So now that i see this.. looks worth of trying capturing of kiev.. albeit the military need to stay away of the tall residential buildings , they are dangerous ,can be snipers paradise . Russia will also need to block , the road from any weapons shipments that leads to poland.. so no weapons smuggled from there into ukraine.

    mass surrenders could start ,once ukie army feel hungry and don't have have food .
    also the surrender of the capital ,could encourage many regions to split from zelensky government.
    nato mercenaries in the other hand might not surrender that easy .. there are reports of kosovo terrorist in ukraine , trainned by nato ,fighting in the side of kiev.

    what will be a mistake is to stop the war too zoon.. or stay there for months . some major objectives are need , to make it impossible for nato , to send any weapons there or any government to operate
    if they dont control the airports. or the naval ports.. Im sure the russian military command had to be planning this war,trainning for it, for many years , in case they forced to invade.. and nato too. but the advantage will be for the one that capture cities. all the cities close to the borders of ukraine should be the easier for the russian army to enter and retreat.. have belarus or russian territory in their rear. So this is why kiev should be taken.. is not far from belarus border.. also all naval ports in odessa too , so nato can park their warships there and re-arm ukraine. Airport where major cargo planes land taken too ,for same reasons.




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    Post  George1 Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:46 pm

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:46 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:George1 is that me ? I try to delete my post, but i have no delete option

    I replied to hole post of burning radar mast, and asked about SEAD mission

    But cant delete

    Just edit the post brother. All will work then.

    Edit: nvm, George got it.

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:49 pm

    Finty wrote:
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    Finty wrote:One way to lose a few braincells is to read the tweets in response to that video of the two Ukrainian MiG-29s. Ill informed crap, I.e people thinking they are su-35s and saying there’s 100 US F35s in Europe.

    Plenty of crap on twitter.

    Because Twitter isn't a real source. Some interesting videos and pics, but besides that....

    Indeed, best just to view the vids and ignore the comments although even some of the vids and pics cannot be verified. As always, take with a big pinch of salt.

    As for Russian MiG29s, they’ve got some at Lipetsk and older ones at Erebuni but otherwise the western and Southern MD IAPs mostly have Su-35s and 30SMs. Both types currently deployed in Belarus with the 35s being from the Eastern MD. obviously I don’t know what units the Russians are actually using right now.

    Honestly, never had the better honor than getting banned off of Twitter.

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    Post  Vann7 Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:53 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Firebird wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:Ukraine civilian in kiev , giving her views.. on the conflict..  a video of kiev what civilians doing , interesting report..  




    That Reznikova woman is an arsehole.  She's full of hohol Nationalist anti Russian shit. Defending Sakhashvili when he refused to find the Odessa massacre instigators and much other garbage.
    Now she pretends Russians are some "mongolid race" completely detached from "Ukrainians" (her words).


    You mean poroshenko?

    Anyway, she is gonna flee and not protect her glorious Ukraine.


    i consider her tone and calm very interesting.. is important the things she did not said ,but could have said , but didn't . The fact that she is calm ,when russia start a semi full scale invasion , makes me thinks ,that she actually welcomes it.. but naturally she can't say that in camera , that is ok with russian invasion , because reject their government or the nazi police could arrest her. either way , people are taking calm the russian invasion and they even ignored most times by civilians.
    zelensky popularity is so low ,and ukraine economy so bad , that many will prefer any invading army ,that kiev regime.


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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:55 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Firebird wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:Ukraine civilian in kiev , giving her views.. on the conflict..  a video of kiev what civilians doing , interesting report..  




    That Reznikova woman is an arsehole.  She's full of hohol Nationalist anti Russian shit. Defending Sakhashvili when he refused to find the Odessa massacre instigators and much other garbage.
    Now she pretends Russians are some "mongolid race" completely detached from "Ukrainians" (her words).


    You mean poroshenko?

    Anyway, she is gonna flee and not protect her glorious Ukraine.


    i consider her tone and calm very interesting..  is important the things she did not said ,but could have said , but didn't . The fact that she is calm ,when russia start a semi full scale invasion , makes me thinks ,that she actually welcomes it.. but naturally she can't say that in camera , that is ok with russian invasion , because reject their government or the nazi police could arrest her.  either way , people are taking calm the russian invasion and they even ignored most times by civilians.
    zelensky popularity is so low ,and ukraine economy so bad , that many will prefer any invading army ,that kiev regime.



    It's possible. Secretly, huge portion of Ukraine is sympathetic to Russia and East Ukraine, just afraid to say it.

    But who knows.
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    Post  Hole Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:56 pm


    Sorry if posted before.

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    Post  bitcointrader70 Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:57 pm

    Most people in Ukraine are so poor and apathetic they don’t care who rules them. Russia or a Russian puppet or an American puppet. Or Micky mouse. When a country is that broke and corrupt basic life necessities take precedence over everything else. Russia was like this too in the 90s and early 2000s. I can see the apathy in that woman.

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    Post  Mir Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:58 pm

    Hole wrote:

    I think they need a bigger fire! Laughing

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    Post  Regular Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:58 pm

    So Ukrainians are reporting they retook the airport.

    Can't find anyone confirming or denying this.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:58 pm

    In this scenario, Su35 air superiority type, but Mig35 would have been good for these operations, the range is enough

    And with ECCM and ECM equipment , MIG35 is more versatile for suppression of enemy air defense

    I am still dying to know what is working on UKR s300

    Su24? Su30? Su34? Su35? Su25 doing CAS but what in Gods name is dropping on those radars
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    Post  George1 Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:02 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:In this scenario, Su35 air superiority type, but Mig35 would have been good for these operations, the range is enough

    And with ECCM and ECM equipment , MIG35 is more versatile for suppression of enemy air defense

    I am still dying to know what is working on UKR s300

    Su24? Su30? Su34? Su35? Su25 doing CAS but what in Gods name is dropping on those radars

    kh-32 anti-radar version
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    Post  lyle6 Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:02 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    It's possible. Secretly, huge portion of Ukraine is sympathetic to Russia and East Ukraine, just afraid to say it.

    But who knows.
    In their heart of hearts, they are probably praying like so:
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    Post  EkErilaz Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:03 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:In this scenario, Su35 air superiority type, but Mig35 would have been good for these operations, the range is enough

    And with ECCM and ECM equipment , MIG35 is more versatile for suppression of enemy air defense

    I am still dying to know what is working on UKR s300

    Su24? Su30? Su34? Su35? Su25 doing CAS but what in Gods name is dropping on those radars

    Anything that can carry KH-31P most likely, 24s, 34s, 30s? impossible to say. If official specs are true it is a very capable missile.
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    Post  Hole Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:04 pm

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    Post  George1 Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:06 pm

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    Post  Rasisuki Nebia Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:07 pm

    Something ominous is happening, Probably a mistake but can't exclude the Nazi's in their Ranks

    https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1496861905478111238


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