How about stopping the invasion and going back to Russia?
Accept defeat and leave.
Better do it now than after three or ten years with thousands of more dead Russians.
It was a terrible idea to invade in the first place.
Would not achieve the objectives... perhaps withdraw and take friendly civilians with them and then glass the place....
One big looser of all of this is europe. Once Russia sanction them they will be in deepshit. And they did all of this for US and UK which left them. Now they are taking orders from them.
When Russia shifts its cheap gas supply from Europe to Asia and so all the Middle East and US companies making big money supplying the expensive Asian market will have to shift to the European market I am sure Europe will understand the advantage they had with cheap energy because the price of Asian goods will drop... but how will they pay for it?
There's no way Russia will loose this. It's just a question of why the deciding characters do not increase the airstrikes, missile strikes, artillery bombardment and so on. Are they really trusting in negotiations or just some strategy we do not understand yet. No one of us knows.
Perhaps they might have better information about what is actually happening and are not being swayed by the BS on Twitter?
It could even lead to disarmament of Russia. Strip it off from nuclear weapons, that is. Of course "voluntarily", the western-installed guy (whoever that would be) in Kremlin would sign it in order to guarantee "the world community" Russia will never ever again threaten the world peace.
Come on... even after three days this has not caused anything like the damage or death or misery than any day the west has had in Syria or Libya or Iraq or Afghanistan or Yemen or any of the other countries they have invaded and are killing people with drone strikes.
If any country or group of countries that needed to be disarmed it wouldn't be Russia, and if they could have they already would have.
Russia has a weak hand in Ukraine. The country was lost decades ago and it is too late to try to take it back. It can be taken back only by force, and the maintenance costs will be too high for Russia.
Your problem is that you don't listen to what Putin says and you just take what the western media says as fact....
Putin didn't say he was going to absorb these two new republics into the Russian federation in fact he clearly said he recognised their independence from Kiev... not their new leadership in Moscow. Why would he want to occupy and absorb the rest of the Ukraine if he didn't want these two republics as part of the Russian federation?
There will be no maintenance costs for Russia... Russia is not keeping most of the Ukraine, though it might keep the Black Sea bits... they will likely play that by ear.
But Putin does need to leave after this. And stand trial eventually. Because all this shit is a massive crime, that is going to lead to misery for millions of people.
What Crime... those millions of Orcs that are suffering were already suffering... and some nazis have been sent to hell.
if it's Russian actions that destabilized the Ukraine to this wild extent.
Western actions are what broke the Ukraine... repeatedly over three decades...
I'm not saying to start bombarding cities outright. But more serious and heavy handed approach toward Ukr army should be a must. Otherwise you are just protracting it. At the end of the day, more Ru soldiers killed is much worse for majority of Ru population than more Ukrainian soldiers
The obvious problem is that most of the Orc army is situated on the line with the Lugansk and Donbass regions, so most of the rest of the country probably has nutters who are zealots thinking they are stopping a Russian invasion... hey... even paranoid idiots can be right some times.
The difference is that this is an attack to eliminate a threat... they are not staying unless it turns into a guerilla war and then they probably will stay.
Careful what you wish for.
Putin should be held accountable, and by whoever comes after him
You mean medals and lots of statues?
Stalin was held accountable by Khrushchev after the former died, and it had nothing to do with the West.
Stalin did about as much bad as he did good and was guilty of quite a few crimes.
People still perceive Russia as a brutal big bear as before.
That is the weird thing... the west has always thought of Russia as a big brutal bear... now they complain that it is attacking a neighbouring country that has been attacking it verbally and economically for the best part of a decade now...
And many people do understand why they decided to take on Ukraine. Some even say Ukraine is asking for it.
The whole west was asking for it but only Ukraine will suffer for the moment.
So it's true that one of the marvels of Soviet engineering, the An-225, was destroyed at Gostomel airport?
TASS is reporting this referring to Ukroboronprom.
Who cares... it was a point of pride to the nazis in charge of the Ukraine but they played no part in creating it really... it was a soviet plane.
As for its future it didn't have one. Its purpose was outsized loads for a space industry that Ukraine doesn't have.
Western media is claiming that the special operation has been halted by Ukraine and that this war would last long.
First four words in that statement is all you need for that answer...
EU will eat shit. Once the propaganda about Russia war doesn't interest people anymore they will start insulting the ukrainian refugees. Same hype was made during the first week of russian intervention in Syria and Crimea. After one week people get bored because what thry want in the west is sensationalist news.
Also they recognise the continued reporting as a distraction from their own real problems and realise they are being had.
Look you can push your BS all you want, but the reality is Russia is going to pay HARD economical for this.
It was a price they were always going to have to pay to remain independent.
You are honestly no better than the Ukrainian fanboys when it comes to damage control.
Not at all... those ORCs are suffering terribly and I don't mean because of the current Russian intervention, their companies are in tatters.... they can't make anything any more, their navy and air force is a joke and their army thinks shelling civilians makes it tough and strong.
What they got from their super wealthy western allies? Food? Money?... nope... weapons and loans... weapons they will get killed using and loans they have to pay back with interest...
Russia has no future with the west so being cut from the western dominated international system of things is going to happen eventually... they will just build alternatives and carry on.
The last 20 years they have rebuilt their country and returned to the forefront of technology in many areas, despite the west containing and constricting their growth and development and crushing countries trying to trade with them...
What a powerful full partner they could have been...
Europe is funny. So Russia will have no issue still flying to Asia and Africa but Europe is gonna have trouble flying to Asia.
And Russian sanctions might be 12 months for German planes....
Reviewed every year based on what sanctions the west renews...
Calm down. You're so angry all the time, I get the impression that you're just a frustrated, autistic little virgin.
Whataboutery will get you nowhere.
He made a good point... rather more blood on western hands than Russian...
But you are a Brit... proud inventor of the concentration camp and reprogramming subjects...
Everyone should be held accountable to what they did. It is will be a process of improving the country and making elites aware that not everything is allowed. For that matter, both Gorbachov and that drunk idiot Yeltsin should have been, as well.
If Putin is way wiser than i think, than kudos to him. Just my 2 cents.
And spare me your diatribes.
So start with western leaders first then perhaps and then you can have the morals to suggest the same for Russia...
Expect nothing more than whataboutery from these brainlet f*ggots. It's all they know.
We are beyond expecting real morals and real ethics from the west.. but you think it unreasonable to expect consistency?
No wonder the west is fucked with morons like you people thinking your opinion even matters... how often do western leaders set aside time to talk openly and frankly to their people?
What a bastard he must be... well he isn't your problem now... pretty clear Russia wants a separation from the west and all the sanctions they are talking about wont be enough.
I am Serbian, you mother fucker and was in Kosovo. So shut the **** up.
So Putin is a criminal... pretty clear who should be shutting up.
Then prove they are false, otherwise you are just making up excuses and denying reality.
If they are on facebook and they have not been deleted then they are orc propaganda.
This is Vlads Forum and those disrespecting that former VDV soldier with Orc propaganda are about to be banned and posts deleted.