Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7

Boshoed wrote:So, remember the SU-34 that Ukraine claimed to have shot down?
Turns out it may have been an L-39..
https://twitter.com/GuyPlopsky/status/1506967451023851525

The video looks like a staged scene. Given the record of Kiev pumping out inane propaganda, the credibility level is very low.

Interesting! Despite an economy that is one-fifth the size of China, and will therefore suffer from Western sanctions, India seems to be punching way above its weight. Today, Indian government cleared a approved a proposal from Moscow that will allow Russia to invest in debt securities of Indian companies.

As an aside, India-Russia balance of trade is completely in Russia's favour already. I'm not sure what Russia will do with billions of Indian rupees.

https://theprint.in/economy/war-no-bar-india-clears-global-pariah-russias-move-to-invest-in-indian-corporate-debt/884072/

This war is a big eye-opener for sure, it reveals all the things that need to be procured and organized

- Night-vision googles for VDV and recon platoons of all types, as the typical vanguard units
- Ka-52 launched UAVs to guide long-range ATGMs
- Tactical reconnaisance UAVs for motor-rifles and armour-tank forces
- Specialist units for storming cities armed and trained accordingly
- Specialized small-sized UCAVs armed with small arms to assist urban fighting
- TORs or 57mm-AA vehicles accompanying Buks on the march, and other types of vehicles
- Heavier UCAVs than what we currently have
- More spacing in vehicle columns to lessen the effects of artillery ambushes
- Counter-battery radars equipped on some vehicles in the column that will be able to rapidly relay back information on the location of ambushing artillery
- BREM vehicles accompanying tank columns or following closer behind so that broken down vehicles can be retrieved rapidly rather than simply being abandoned
- High-altitude stealth UCAVs with anti-radar missiles to counter Buk/Strela-10 ambushes in the brief window they switch their radars on
- Gliding bombs as an alternative to more expensive missiles
- APS on tanks, even if a primitive, cheaper system such as Drozd. But one variant or another should be on all tanks unless they're just used for fire-support further back from the line.
- Some sort of beam-riding RPG-type system with good optics and a thermobaric warhead, for urban fighting
- Escorts together with supply convoys, either land or helicopter-based
- Better armored Mi-17s to deal with HMG fire
- Anti-drone jamming or interception systems against cheap small recon drones
- A refinement of the BMPT concept for urban fighting, should have APS as well
- Cage armour on APCs and IFVs, probably not a big problem but it can't hurt
- That remote weapon-station ATGM is a good idea too, not sure if the Kornet offers that in its portable version
- Can't do much about the tin-can VDV vehicles and it looks like some at least were ambushed by artillery, but nevertheless they should have thermal optics and a UAV at least
- Equipping the Vitebsk system on Mi-24s and Mi-17s as well
- Less grouping up of infantry during urban combat, leaves them open to artillery fire from UAV spotting
- Battle management systems equipped on T-72 and T-80 variants

Sujoy wrote:Interesting! Despite an economy that is one-fifth the size of China, and will therefore suffer from Western sanctions, India seems to be punching way above its weight. Today, Indian government cleared a approved a proposal from Moscow that will allow Russia to invest in debt securities of Indian companies.

As an aside, India-Russia balance of trade is completely in Russia's favour already. I'm not sure what Russia will do with billions of Indian rupees.

https://theprint.in/economy/war-no-bar-india-clears-global-pariah-russias-move-to-invest-in-indian-corporate-debt/884072/

Totally the wrong place for this post.

However you have answered your own question. What Russia is planning to do with billions of rupees is in your first para " Indian government cleared a approved a proposal from Moscow that will allow Russia to invest in debt securities of Indian companies."

The battle of Mariupol is basically over, just a few blocks remaining. Civilians who managed to escape today are in awful condition, and tell of horrific things done to them.

Izyum has been taken by RU, cutting off the main highway between Kharkov and Slavyansk/Kramatorsk. UA Donbass forces have basically no option but to dash for Pavlograd now.

Ukrainians are shelling in the direction of Russian forces north of Kiev, but they are outranged it seems like (RU artillery can hit them from further back without risk). Some suggest they will attempt an actual counter-attack across Irpin, but who knows.

There is a Russian push to finally encircle Chernigov, a city they basically just casually bypassed when the operation began.

The Berdyansk strike/sabotage/whatever has been discussed at length here I see, so nothing further to add there.

PS That is definitely a Su-34, but the L-39 canopy suggests (as people mentioned in the Twitter thread already) a suicidal ramming attack by an unarmed jet trainer. If that turns out to be true, the level of fanaticism is remarkable.

NATO will not deploy troops in Ukraine to avoid war with Russia - Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg, responding to Poland's proposal to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.

NATO shit it's panties big surprise, no asswhooping for now

JohninMK wrote:

Sujoy wrote:Interesting! Despite an economy that is one-fifth the size of China, and will therefore suffer from Western sanctions, India seems to be punching way above its weight. Today, Indian government cleared a approved a proposal from Moscow that will allow Russia to invest in debt securities of Indian companies.

As an aside, India-Russia balance of trade is completely in Russia's favour already. I'm not sure what Russia will do with billions of Indian rupees.

https://theprint.in/economy/war-no-bar-india-clears-global-pariah-russias-move-to-invest-in-indian-corporate-debt/884072/

Totally the wrong place for this post.

However you have answered your own question. What Russia is planning to do with billions of rupees is in your first para " Indian government cleared a approved a proposal from Moscow that will allow Russia to invest in debt securities of Indian companies."

It is not the wrong place, this is part of the economic war.

Boom!

So the su34 was not shot down? Hmm guess that makes sense

walle83 wrote:

Boom!

Coming for Gotland soon

Airbornewolf wrote:Additional footage of russian marines in combat in mariupol.
@4:05, Citizen telling the Russian soldier where the Nazi's are held up in.

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/Russian-marines-during-the-battles-of-Mariupol:6

The Ukrainians of azov hunted like rats... house by house

Arkanghelsk wrote:NATO will not deploy troops in Ukraine to avoid war with Russia - Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg, responding to Poland's proposal to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.

NATO shit it's panties big surprise,  no asswhooping for now

Probably the opposite. The war has shown that Russian convential forces are not that good, and probably would get thier ass kicked in a confrontation with Nato forces.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:NATO will not deploy troops in Ukraine to avoid war with Russia - Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg, responding to Poland's proposal to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.

NATO shit it's panties big surprise,  no asswhooping for now

No, we aren't shitting our pants Russia would lose in a conventional war and would need to resort to nukes, Russia does not hva the manpower nor production ability to wage such a war. It's utterly delusional to think they would win, Putin has also said this himself "War with NATO is suicide"

That is why he went into Ukraine BEFORE it joined NATO. NATO will not protect UKRAINE has it is a NONE NATO STATE.

NATO is running out of munitions

Ukraine is the strongest NATO state , second to Turkey

And yes your commander shit himself on the world stage twice already

NATO has no industrial capacity, and is averse to manpower losses

Which is why few cruise missiles , scared them from intervention

Russia can beat NATO easy

walle83 wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:NATO will not deploy troops in Ukraine to avoid war with Russia - Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg, responding to Poland's proposal to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.

NATO shit it's panties big surprise,  no asswhooping for now

Probably the opposite. The war has shown that Russian convential forces are not that good, and probably would get thier ass kicked in a confrontation with Nato forces.

NATO lost to Afghanistan and Iraq

NATO stays out of Ukraine due to fear of Russia

Russia is the #1 military power in the world

NATO stays on reddit

Sujoy wrote:Interesting! Despite an economy that is one-fifth the size of China, and will therefore suffer from Western sanctions, India seems to be punching way above its weight. Today, Indian government cleared a approved a proposal from Moscow that will allow Russia to invest in debt securities of Indian companies.

As an aside, India-Russia balance of trade is completely in Russia's favour already. I'm not sure what Russia will do with billiuyons of Indian rupees.

https://theprint.in/economy/war-no-bar-india-clears-global-pariah-russias-move-to-invest-in-indian-corporate-debt/884072/

The Federation Russian can to buy gold with them or to buy shares de indian companies

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:NATO will not deploy troops in Ukraine to avoid war with Russia - Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg, responding to Poland's proposal to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.

NATO shit it's panties big surprise,  no asswhooping for now

No, we aren't shitting our pants Russia would lose in a conventional war and would need to resort to nukes, Russia does not hva the manpower nor production ability to wage such a war. It's utterly delusional to think they would win, Putin has also said this himself "War with NATO is suicide"

That is why he went into Ukraine BEFORE it joined NATO. NATO will not protect UKRAINE has it is a NONE NATO STATE.

NATO is running out of munitions

Ukraine is the strongest NATO state  , second to Turkey

And yes your commander shit himself on the world stage twice already

NATO has no industrial capacity, and is averse to manpower losses

Which is why few cruise missiles , scared them from intervention

Russia can beat NATO easy

Ukraine is not A NATO state

we aren't running out of ammo

NATO has no industrial capacity....? okay okay after that line, I cannot take your remarks seriously anymore.

We are done here, go smoke your drugs.

Ukraine is De Facto a NATO state with E3 support, munitions support, and manpower and personnel support

The french and the Canadians are already out of ammo

Yes you have 0 industrial capacity, you depend on an enemy state for sensitive equipment, China

NATO would not last 1 month in high intensity conflict it shows in Ukraine

Airbornewolf wrote:Additional footage of russian marines in combat in mariupol.
@4:05, Citizen telling the Russian soldier where the Nazi's are held up in.

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/Russian-marines-during-the-battles-of-Mariupol:6

Thanks for sharing, tho only few shots of actual marines and mostly DNR guys. But it seems locals had enough of it and giving our positions. There is almost nowhere to hide now.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:NATO will not deploy troops in Ukraine to avoid war with Russia - Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg, responding to Poland's proposal to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.

NATO shit it's panties big surprise,  no asswhooping for now

No, we aren't shitting our pants Russia would lose in a conventional war and would need to resort to nukes, Russia does not hva the manpower nor production ability to wage such a war. It's utterly delusional to think they would win, Putin has also said this himself "War with NATO is suicide"

That is why he went into Ukraine BEFORE it joined NATO. NATO will not protect UKRAINE has it is a NONE NATO STATE.

NATO is running out of munitions

Ukraine is the strongest NATO state  , second to Turkey

And yes your commander shit himself on the world stage twice already

NATO has no industrial capacity, and is averse to manpower losses

Which is why few cruise missiles , scared them from intervention

Russia can beat NATO easy

Ukraine is not A NATO state

we aren't running out of ammo

NATO has no industrial capacity....? okay okay after that line, I cannot take your remarks seriously anymore.

We are done here, go smoke your drugs.

Ukraine is De Facto a NATO state with E3 support, munitions support,  and manpower and personnel support

The french and the Canadians are already out of ammo

Yes you have 0 industrial capacity, you depend on an enemy state for sensitive equipment, China

NATO would not last 1 month in high intensity conflict it shows in Ukraine

Sorry buddy but your 100 percent wrong on everything you said but I am not going to waste time debating with someone who is at your level of delusional its just not worth it

Still waiting for those Russians to appear in places you stated they are btw....

In Krivoy Rog? Yeah they're there, and they're less than 10km from Lvov on the Belarusian border

What's funny is how mad NATO fan boys get when we repeat what they say of Russia

Running out of munitions , and 20,000 KIA in Iraq and Afghanistan, counting contractor deaths not reported, and confirmations by France and Canada of low munitions

If you don't want to be trigger, stay on Twitter or reddit for updoots

walle83 wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:NATO will not deploy troops in Ukraine to avoid war with Russia - Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg, responding to Poland's proposal to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.

NATO shit it's panties big surprise,  no asswhooping for now

Probably the opposite. The war has shown that Russian convential forces are not that good, and probably would get thier ass kicked in a confrontation with Nato forces.

What makes you think NATO conventional forces are any good?

When was the last time Sweden fought anyone, or any of these NATO states fought anyone that's not a 3rd world Muslim country with equipment from the 60s?

In Yugoslavia the NATO bombing campaign barely took out anything of the Yugoslav army. NATO aircraft were flying too high to target the army. And they never went in with ground forces. Yugoslavia simply gave up as there was nothing they could do other than being pummeled for two months and getting its infrastructure taken out.

The US led coalition had its success against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, which was under sanctions, split along sectarian lines internally, and largely obsolescent

The Ukraine is linked up to all NATO command, training, EW, satellites, intel, has NATO officers co-coordinating its strategy, its air-defense units get data from NATO radars, etc...
It has fairly modern equipment, and a large army of some 250,000-300,000 + 100,000 more or so as auxiliaries and called up reservists.
It's basically as much a NATO army as Finland's is.

Yet when you take away the info-war stuff, you end up with a Russian force that came in with a naive strategy, took heavy losses in the first 3 days, but very rapidly adapted, and now is grinding down and destroying the Ukrainian military on its terms.

We're talking about a 1:6 casualty ratio in Russia's favor, all the while with its group being smaller than the Ukraine's military.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Nope other places.

Triggered? naw I just know better not to waste time with people who have their heads so far up their ass they can see their own insides.


Not running out of ammo, and not 20k.

I am no NATO fanboy I just know facts and the facts are clear as day in a war vs NATO without Nukes, Russia would lose PERIOD.

Says who? CNN ?

Come across the border and let's find out

But you stay right?

Pussies hahahaa