Russian special military operation in Ukraine #10

Another false flag operation, this time Krematorsk.
Ukros shoot a Tochka-U at the railway station, claiming it to be Iskander.
30+ killed civilians.

andalusia wrote:I haven't read all of the previous comments in this thread but what is it with German intelligence intercepting radio transmissions about Russian soldiers talking about killing Ukrainian civilians in the town of Bucha? This is being used as evidence of war crimes.  Don't get angry with me please because I want to hear from another source not in the West.



https://news.yahoo.com/germany-intercepted-conversations-russian-soldiers-100550605.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall






It has been debated on here but a Kremlin spokesman admits significant losses of troops however 1,351 deaths doesn't sound like what the West was saying like 10,000 to 15,000 deaths that was being reported a few weeks ago.  



https://news.yahoo.com/kremlin-says-russia-suffered-significant-174924233.html

They can make whatever radio transmissions they want. You think they can't find people who speak Russian and can read a script?

It's all just to try and make the story more believable

How?
It is still occupied territory.

ALAMO wrote:Another false flag operation, this time Krematorsk.
Ukros shoot a Tochka-U at the railway station, claiming it to be Iskander.
30+ killed civilians.

Yeah, and with a cluster munition too. Not really a weapon you'll use against an infrastructural object

Like the ones they've been firing against Donetsk since the start of the conflict

Arestovich claimed it to be an Iskander
https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/52889

But then some local uploaded an image of the rocket booster. Turned out to be a Tochka-U
https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/52885

So now Zelensky is claiming that Russia fired a Tochka-U
https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/52894

Apart from everything else, Russia doesn't typically fire against any targets in cities during the day. It also doesn't have Tochka-Us in service since 10 years ago but that goes without saying. It has them in storage and could in theory recommission them, but we haven't seen Russia use them in this conflict at all. It sticks to more modern and precise weapons.

It was the Ukraine which organized this evacuation mission from Kramatorsk yesterday. I thought it was a bit strange, especially as the mayor of Kharkov was saying the opposite to his citizens - stay put (be used as human shields).
But I was prepared to give them props at least for Kramatorsk - at least they're finally now taking responsibility for civilians.
Nope, turned out to just be a set-up for an ugly provocation.
And now we'll see the usual - calls for an immediate ceasefire in the Donbass (to give time for the Ukrainian military to evacuate from there or flood more troops in or whatever), journos being invited in, mass-media propaganda, etc..
And doubling down on the propaganda - some faked satellite photos of Russian Tochka-Us, more intercepted radio transmissions, whatever.

ALAMO wrote:Another false flag operation, this time Krematorsk.
Ukros shoot a Tochka-U at the railway station, claiming it to be Iskander.
30+ killed civilians.

Both Bucha & Kramatorsk are neat false flag ops played along Syria's White Helmets MI6 founder playbook James le Mesurier.

Sujoy wrote:Imagine, 25k MANPADs to a multi-national rag-tag army.

I'll tell you what will happen. Only a matter of time before Ukrainians start selling these weapons in the black market and in all probability some Nazi or Jihadi group will get hold of it.

They will them use these weapons to shoot down a passenger jet liner either during take off or landing and subsequently the U.S and U.K will accuse Russia for being involved in the attack/s.

https://twitter.com/vtchakarova/status/1512158001708347400?s=20&t=C41JeAKYNkPJ9ILaTcRH6Q

Once again, if flying with helicopters above Kiev in broad daylight is not air superiority, what is?

And there was and is no devastating bombardement.

This is from 2017!

flamming_python wrote:
Apart from everything else, Russia doesn't typically fire against any targets in cities during the day. It also doesn't have Tochka-Us in service since 10 years ago but that goes without saying. It has them in storage and could in theory recommission them, but we haven't seen Russia use them in this conflict at all. It sticks to more modern and precise weapons.

That my friend is close to the conspiracy theory.
If a weapon system is taken out of service for a decade (I was not sure that it was that long time ago indeed), it means that there is hardly anyone trained to use them in the regular army. That would require a whole operation. And why Russkies would do that if it is crystal clear how it will be presented in shitstream anyway?
Fundamental lack of logic.

What is even more "interesting", is the time coincidence.

The missile hit a perfectly same time when the EU delegation arrived Kiev.

And we could already follow more conspiracy material, that is "a dashcam evidence" showing echelon with Tochkas traveling .. somewhere.
All with "V" symbol.
Everyone will notice V.
Hardly anyone will notice, that two out of four on the movie are in Ukrainian camo.

One of Elenski´s buddies first claimed it was a Iskander, then the clown himself said it was a Totchka.

Serberus wrote:
BTW Are you reincarnation of Papa?

Na he can't be

No-one was as scathing of Russia and predicting doom for it as PD was

But the ol' Syrian script didn't stop the SAA from liberating its territory. It won't stop Russia from flushing out this monsterous regime from Kiev either

Already in Nikolayev there was 'Z' and 'V' graffiti noticed yesterday. People are waking up. First the Bucha hoax. Now this Kramatorsk hit. What mindless Western media and Zelensky media consumers think doesn't matter. It's the people in the Ukraine that matter. They know what weapons are used by Russia and which ones are used by the Ukraine. The Tochka-U is used only by the Ukraine.

Does it say "Za Detei"? (Revenge) for the children? Wouldn't be that written by Ukrainian and not Russian military?

Regular wrote:Does it say "Za Detei"? (Revenge) for the children? Wouldn't be that written by Ukrainian and not Russian military?

It would be, and was - written by whoever fired the rocket.

Which would be a Ukrainian missile brigade

Anyway, the point of all this is just to disrupt the Donbass liberation operation.

Let the Western media say whatever it wants and EU, US politicians say whatever they want.

They not only sanction, but have the kindness of revealing and publishing the daughters' names which were kept secret.

UK imposes sanctions against Putin and Lavrov's daughters

LONDON (Sputnik) - The United Kingdom is introducing new individual sanctions against Russia as part of restrictive measures against that country for its special military operation in Ukraine, the Foreign Ministry said.

"Katerina Tikhonova and Maria Vorontsova, daughters of President [Russian President Vladimir] Putin, and Ekaterina Vinokurova, daughter of Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, will be subject to travel bans and asset freezes," the statement said.
It is specified that the new sanctions are aimed at "the luxurious lifestyle of the Kremlin's inner circle."

Yandex Translate from Spanish

https://mundo.sputniknews.com/20220408/el-reino-unido-impone-sanciones-contra-las-hijas-de-putin-y-lavrov-1124171344.html

sepheronx wrote:

What do you think?

Only DNR/LNR guys would write this, but they do not have such weaponry so it leaves Ukraine. To be honest, it doesn't matter who wrote what, was this geolocated?

Regular wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

What do you think?

Only DNR/LNR guys would write this, but they do not have such weaponry so it leaves Ukraine. To be honest, it doesn't matter who wrote what, was this geolocated?

There was a geo-location done, but I can't vouch for it

https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/52888

If it's accurate, the rocket came from the south-west. Which would put it's launch site from within the Donbass pocket. The Tochka doesn't have the range for Russia to hit Kramatorsk with it from anywhere it controls in the Zaporozhie region

This is just another direct proof of what kind of monster was breed&rised in Europe, and that makes me speechless.

Slovakia apparently transferring their only S-300 battery. From their prime minister's tweet.

One other thing is that apparently they also offer service to repair captured Russian vehicles for the Ukraine.

Stealthflanker wrote:Slovakia apparently transferring their only S-300 battery.  From their prime minister's tweet.

One other thing is that apparently they also offer service to repair captured Russian vehicles for the Ukraine.

What for ? Haven't they seen how easily they destroy them ?

US is destroying the western european militaries. They will then sell them US stuff for billions like the 250 abrams for 5 billion which translate to 20 million $ piece.

Podolyaka's channels have all been banned on YouTube and for good it seems. Just in time for the Kramatorsk false-flag

So his Telegram is the most reliable platform now

He has released a short video on Kramatorsk (Russian only)
https://t.me/yurasumy/2992