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    Post  Hinex1988 Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:47 pm

    🇬🇧🇺🇦 Briefing of the Russian Ministry of Defense (16.04.2022)

    ◽ The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue a special military operation in Ukraine.

    💥 During the day, 15 enemy targets were hit by high-precision air-launched missiles. Among them:

    ▫ in the areas of the settlements of Barvenkovo, Rubizhne, Popasnaya, Novozvanovka, Krasnoarmeysk, Selidovo, Novobakhmutovka, six places of concentration of Ukrainian military equipment and seven strongholds of Ukrainian troops were destroyed.

    💥 As a result of the strikes, more than 320 Ukrainian servicemen were killed and wounded, 23 armored vehicles and seven vehicles for various purposes were destroyed.

    💥 Operational-tactical aviation destroyed 67 areas of concentration of personnel and Ukrainian military equipment during the day.

    💥 Missile troops hit 317 military facilities, including: 274 enemy strongholds and areas of concentration of manpower, 24 command posts and two field fuel storage facilities of Ukrainian troops.

    💥 Russian air defense systems in the Odessa region shot down a Ukrainian military transport aircraft in the air, delivering a large batch of weapons supplied to Ukraine by Western countries. Two Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down over the settlements of Lozovaya and Veselaya.

    📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 134 aircraft, 460 unmanned aerial vehicles, 246 anti-aircraft missile systems, 2269 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 252 multiple rocket launchers, 987 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 2158 units of special military vehicles.

    ◽ The entire urban area of ​​Mariupol has been completely cleared of the militants of the Nazi formation "Azov", foreign mercenaries and Ukrainian troops. The remnants of the Ukrainian group are currently completely blocked on the territory of the Azovstal metallurgical plant. Their only chance to save their lives is to voluntarily lay down their arms and surrender.

    ◽ Let me remind you that at the time of its encirclement on March 11, there were in Mariupol: the 36th separate brigade of the marines, the 109th brigade of territorial defense, the 503rd separate battalion of the marines, a company of the 53rd separate mechanized brigade, units of the 17th anti-tank brigades, Nazi formations "Azov", "Aidar", "Right Sector", units of the police and state border services, as well as foreign mercenaries.

    ◽ The total number of this group was about 8100 people.

    ◽ During the liberation of Mariupol, 1,464 Ukrainian servicemen have already surrendered. The number of surrenderers is increasing daily. Including those who escaped from the territory of Azovstal.

    ◽ According to their testimonies, the total number of Ukrainian servicemen, Nazis and foreign mercenaries who took refuge at Azovstal does not exceed 2.5 thousand people.

    ◽ Thus, on April 16, only in Mariupol, the losses of the Ukrainian group amounted to more than 4,000 people.

    ◽ Therefore, Zelensky’s recent statements to the Western media that the irretrievable losses of the Ukrainian military during the operation allegedly amount to 2.5-3 thousand are a common lie for him.

    ◽ The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has reliable data on the true losses of the Ukrainian army, the National Guard and arrived foreign mercenaries, which Zelensky is afraid to tell the people of Ukraine. Today, irretrievable losses amount to 23,367 people.

    ◽ Some data from Ukrainian documents about our losses, revealing the place of death and the place of burial of the dead, we will soon publish.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:57 pm

    Hinex1988 wrote:

    ◽ According to their testimonies, the total number of Ukrainian servicemen, Nazis and foreign mercenaries who took refuge at Azovstal does not exceed 2.5 thousand people.

    ◽ Thus, on April 16, only in Mariupol, the losses of the Ukrainian group amounted to more than 4,000 people.

    So, 4000 already dead and the best part of 2500 now on the block in the Azov plant.

    On a previous report it was said by some surrenderers that their top leaders had escaped by helicopter. The probably had no idea they didn't get far before being shot down, I suspect that the DNR interrogator then smiled when he updated them:)

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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:38 pm



    The Moskva is being used as a political talking point by Russia's enemies inside and outside. Inside they are the
    emo commie traitors that were getting in bed with Nahalny. These sick f*cks and their parrots on this forum
    are latching on to any straw to push their agenda. Even if the Ukr regime had actually sunk the ship with deliberate
    action, then that is called war. Only f*cktards would pretend that zero losses are the minimum standard.

    And no, you sacks of shit, this is not me "coping". Critics need to have substance. Bitching over the Moskva
    demonstrates the total absence of substance.

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    Post  par far Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:41 pm

    "Special Forces of the RF Armed Forces destroyed the stronghold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the forest south of Izyum.


    https://t.me/intelslava2/24?single

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    Post  limb Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:42 pm

    kvs wrote:

    The Moskva is being used as a political talking point by Russia's enemies inside and outside.   Inside they are the
    emo commie traitors that were getting in bed with Nahalny.   These sick f*cks and their parrots on this forum
    are latching on to any straw to push their agenda.   Even if the Ukr regime had actually sunk the ship with deliberate
    action, then that is called war.   Only f*cktards would pretend that zero losses are the minimum standard.  

    And no, you sacks of shit, this is not me "coping".   Critics need to have substance.   Bitching over the Moskva
    demonstrates the total absence of substance.


    0 naval losses is actually the minimum standard against a 3rd world country without a navy like Ukraine. Cope.
    How about the monkeys in the Russian navy fix their systemic issues of negligence?

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    Post  par far Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:44 pm

    "Our fighters in the Gorlovka direction are giving the last chance to Ukrainian fighters from the 25th airmobile brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to lay down their arms."


    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/42826?single

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    Post  Sujoy Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:44 pm

    flamming_python wrote:The crew of the Moskva assembled

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/42827

    Looks like about 150-200 people. Let's be optimistic and say 50 or so are injured

    The full crew complement is about 480 or so

    So at most half look to have survived. A heavy blow. But they will be avenged

    This crew doesn't look too solemn though. Maybe not all of them are assembled.
    Neptune has active radar homing guidance in it's terminal phase, uses an active RF-seeker. Let us assume this seeker is turned on at 20km away from the Moskva, the ESM of Moskva would've most certainly picked this up.

    So even if for whatever reason Moskva's radars failed at detecting the sea-skimming Neptune, the missile's own active RF-seeker would've been picked up by the ship's ESM suite.

    One would assume it's ECM and other soft-kill assets would immediately try to counter.

    How could so many things go wrong simultaneously? There is more to it than what meets the eye.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:52 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:Does a Tu-160 have to fly near the boarders? I thought the white swan had ordinance that could be fired well out of range of opposing air defenses....

    They can hit anything in Ukraine without even going near the border, what I'm saying is that it would be extremely distasteful to hold a fancy parade while this mess is still on



    par far wrote:The parade is to remember the millions of Soviet people that died in the war against the fascists, it should be held to remember them....

    If they torch that cauldron before May 9th then they could have a parade but if current situation doesn't change it would be epic display of bad taste


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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:52 pm

    RTN wrote:
    Hole wrote:S-300F has only one radar (above the hangar, which can be turned and has a coverage of around 270°)), it follows the targets (up to 6 or 12) and sends info to the missiles. The search part is done by the two specialized radars on top of the masts (360° coverage).
    To understand that blind spot on Moskva, compare to Aegis cruisers.....they have their phased array radar plate in four directions, covering 360 degrees. Moskva had only one phased array radar, on a pivoting base, covering only one sector, leaving a blind spot. Fiberglass radome at stern of Moskva is for the phased array radar. Phased array radars are incredibly expensive but the computers needed to run them are GARGANTUALLY expensive. Russia did the cheap solution, a phased array radar that points into direction of threat.

    Good evening, AMERICUNT! First of all, the cruisers of Project 1164 are from another era. The story with the cruisers of project 1144 is completely different , as well with the new frigates of project 22350 and the new corvettes of project 20380 and 20385.

    22350 frigates..

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    Post  par far Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:53 pm

    limb wrote:
    kvs wrote:

    The Moskva is being used as a political talking point by Russia's enemies inside and outside.   Inside they are the
    emo commie traitors that were getting in bed with Nahalny.   These sick f*cks and their parrots on this forum
    are latching on to any straw to push their agenda.   Even if the Ukr regime had actually sunk the ship with deliberate
    action, then that is called war.   Only f*cktards would pretend that zero losses are the minimum standard.  

    And no, you sacks of shit, this is not me "coping".   Critics need to have substance.   Bitching over the Moskva
    demonstrates the total absence of substance.


    0 naval losses is actually the minimum standard against a 3rd world country without a navy like Ukraine. Cope.
    How about the monkeys in the Russian navy fix their systemic issues of negligence?


    You need some coping, if you think Ukraine is a 3rd world army.

    People like you don't understand that is not Russia vs Ukraine, this is Russia vs NATO.

    NATO had 8 years to train and equip the Ukrainian army, NATO is sending equipment to Ukraine,  MATO is providing Ukraine with satellite photos and other stuff like that.

    You don't even know what exactly happened on the ship.

    And you are calling the Russian monkeys? **** you.

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    Post  Sujoy Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:59 pm

    par far wrote:People like you don't understand that is not Russia vs Ukraine, this is Russia vs NATO.
    That's correct. NATO lacks the courage to confront Russia directly, but this doesn't mean they won't adopt sneaky methods to hurt Russia.

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    Post  limb Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:01 pm

    par far wrote:
    limb wrote:
    kvs wrote:

    The Moskva is being used as a political talking point by Russia's enemies inside and outside.   Inside they are the
    emo commie traitors that were getting in bed with Nahalny.   These sick f*cks and their parrots on this forum
    are latching on to any straw to push their agenda.   Even if the Ukr regime had actually sunk the ship with deliberate
    action, then that is called war.   Only f*cktards would pretend that zero losses are the minimum standard.  

    And no, you sacks of shit, this is not me "coping".   Critics need to have substance.   Bitching over the Moskva
    demonstrates the total absence of substance.


    0 naval losses is actually the minimum standard against a 3rd world country without a navy like Ukraine. Cope.
    How about the monkeys in the Russian navy fix their systemic issues of negligence?


    You need some coping, if you think Ukraine is a 3rd world army.

    People like you don't understand that is not Russia vs Ukraine, this is Russia vs NATO.

    NATO had 8 years to train and equip the Ukrainian army, NATO is sending equipment to Ukraine,  MATO is providing Ukraine with satellite photos and other stuff like that.

    You don't even know what exactly happened on the ship.

    And you are calling the Russian monkeys? **** you.
    That's like saying NATO fighting Iraq was like it fighting the USSR because the USSR supplied it with weapons.
    Yes, I'm calling the commanding officers of the Russian navy incompetent monkeys. Only a monkey can a lose the flagship of the black sea fleet by deploying it in a risky area and not being able to shoot down a couple of missiles. Also the damage control seemed to be worthless. If the ship sank because of negligence bloke some monkeys smoking cigarettes on board or lack of electric maintenance, the black sea fleet officials also deserve to be called monkeys.

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    Post  limb Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:02 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    RTN wrote:
    Hole wrote:S-300F has only one radar (above the hangar, which can be turned and has a coverage of around 270°)), it follows the targets (up to 6 or 12) and sends info to the missiles. The search part is done by the two specialized radars on top of the masts (360° coverage).
    To understand that blind spot on Moskva, compare to Aegis cruisers.....they have their phased array radar plate in four directions, covering 360 degrees. Moskva had only one phased array radar, on a pivoting base, covering only one sector, leaving a blind spot. Fiberglass radome at stern of Moskva is for the phased array radar. Phased array radars are incredibly expensive but the computers needed to run them are GARGANTUALLY expensive. Russia did the cheap solution, a phased array radar that points into direction of threat.

    Good evening, AMERICUNT! First of all, the cruisers of Project 1164 are from another era. The story with the cruisers of project 1144 is completely different , as well with the new frigates of project 22350 and the new corvettes of project 20380 and 20385.

    22350 frigates..

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    only 2 gorshkovs are in service. Let that sink in.

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    Post  par far Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:03 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote:Does a Tu-160 have to fly near the boarders?  I thought the white swan had ordinance that could be fired well out of range of opposing air defenses....

    They can hit anything in Ukraine without even going near the border, what I'm saying is that it would be extremely distasteful to hold a fancy parade while this mess is still on



    par far wrote:The parade is to remember the millions of Soviet people that died in the war against the fascists, it should be held to remember them....

    If they torch that cauldron before May 9th then they could have a parade but if current situation doesn't change it would be epic display of bad taste





    This is not your call of duty game, this is real war. There political implications, there are military implications and there are other situations, the military takes into consideration. The Russian military is picking up the pace and more airstrikes.


    Ukraine is maybe divided into 2 or 3 separate Republics, you have the Donetsk People's Republic, the Luhansk People's Republic and if the referendum in the Kherson Region is true, than the Kherson People's Republic.

    Russia is slowly dividing Ukraine into pieces and the internet idiot generals think Russia is losing.


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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:14 pm

    limb wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:
    RTN wrote:
    Hole wrote:S-300F has only one radar (above the hangar, which can be turned and has a coverage of around 270°)), it follows the targets (up to 6 or 12) and sends info to the missiles. The search part is done by the two specialized radars on top of the masts (360° coverage).
    To understand that blind spot on Moskva, compare to Aegis cruisers.....they have their phased array radar plate in four directions, covering 360 degrees. Moskva had only one phased array radar, on a pivoting base, covering only one sector, leaving a blind spot. Fiberglass radome at stern of Moskva is for the phased array radar. Phased array radars are incredibly expensive but the computers needed to run them are GARGANTUALLY expensive. Russia did the cheap solution, a phased array radar that points into direction of threat.

    Good evening, AMERICUNT! First of all, the cruisers of Project 1164 are from another era. The story with the cruisers of project 1144 is completely different , as well with the new frigates of project 22350 and the new corvettes of project 20380 and 20385.

    22350 frigates..

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    only 2 gorshkovs are in service. Let that sink in.

    Dude, I would "sink" all your teeth !!!
    Look at this, you stinker, I've been following you and that stink RTN for days, I'd break you both! You would sink like Bismarck if I were in front of you.
    There is nothing for a coward like you two and those whiners FP and Arkahangelsk to write! Fool, Russia has entered a war that the United States did not enter since the Vietnam War era. Come on, let them bring their aircraft carriers in front of the Russian borders, so let's see. The same goes for Arleigh Burke destroyers.

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    Post  mnztr Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:16 pm

    Z is saying if the Mariupol pocket is liquidated, then talks are off. So there is clearly someone valuable there. Russians should give them 24 hours before using thermobarics on the complex.

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    Post  par far Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:17 pm

    limb wrote:
    par far wrote:
    limb wrote:
    kvs wrote:

    The Moskva is being used as a political talking point by Russia's enemies inside and outside.   Inside they are the
    emo commie traitors that were getting in bed with Nahalny.   These sick f*cks and their parrots on this forum
    are latching on to any straw to push their agenda.   Even if the Ukr regime had actually sunk the ship with deliberate
    action, then that is called war.   Only f*cktards would pretend that zero losses are the minimum standard.  

    And no, you sacks of shit, this is not me "coping".   Critics need to have substance.   Bitching over the Moskva
    demonstrates the total absence of substance.


    0 naval losses is actually the minimum standard against a 3rd world country without a navy like Ukraine. Cope.
    How about the monkeys in the Russian navy fix their systemic issues of negligence?


    You need some coping, if you think Ukraine is a 3rd world army.

    People like you don't understand that is not Russia vs Ukraine, this is Russia vs NATO.

    NATO had 8 years to train and equip the Ukrainian army, NATO is sending equipment to Ukraine,  MATO is providing Ukraine with satellite photos and other stuff like that.

    You don't even know what exactly happened on the ship.

    And you are calling the Russian monkeys? **** you.
    That's like saying NATO fighting Iraq was like it fighting the USSR because the USSR supplied it with weapons.
    Yes, I'm calling the commanding officers of the Russian navy incompetent monkeys. Only a monkey can a lose the flagship of the black sea fleet by deploying it in a risky area  and not being able to shoot down a couple of missiles. Also the damage control seemed to be worthless. If the ship sank because of negligence bloke some monkeys smoking cigarettes on board or lack of electric maintenance, the black sea fleet officials also deserve to be called monkeys.



    This is not Iraq, Vietnam or any other situation, this is a direct confrontation between NATO/Collective West and Russia(there is also going to be a direct confrontation between China and NATO/Collective West but that is a whole other topic).

    This conflict includes a lot of moving parts, the US dollar reserve, the world economic trade and control of resources, are all behind this conflict.

    As for the ship, you are just spewing nonsense, you have no confirmation, no real details about what happened on the ship and you cocksucker have the audacity to call the Russians monkeys? **** You.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:20 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote:Does a Tu-160 have to fly near the boarders?  I thought the white swan had ordinance that could be fired well out of range of opposing air defenses....

    They can hit anything in Ukraine without even going near the border, what I'm saying is that it would be extremely distasteful to hold a fancy parade while this mess is still on



    par far wrote:The parade is to remember the millions of Soviet people that died in the war against the fascists, it should be held to remember them....

    If they torch that cauldron before May 9th then they could have a parade but if current situation doesn't change it would be epic display of bad taste



    IF there is no parade, the western press will play it as a major fascist victory. Having a parade on May 9 is IMVHO almost as vital as was having the Revolution Day Parade on November 7, 1941. Fine, don't show the newest stuff, but the cadets and the t-34s, and tanks and equipment do need to be seen. The west has to know that its actions in Ukraine are not changing things for the average Russian.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:23 pm

    How come you two, FP and Arkhangelsk, are not ashamed to be humiliated here? Unbelievers and cowards have no place in military forums. These worms like RTN and LIMB delight with your comments. They and people like them want to see some Russians whining. Do you have any pride, you piece of shit? You believe in Western propaganda, and you urinate on Russia and Putin yourself.

    Why, because of a 40-year-old ship and several planes? Idiots, in our country, GYPSIES jumped and made fun on the destroyed F-117 ! YES, THAT MIRACLE OF AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY, which was withdrawn from use only 7 years after the Aggression on the FRY. That's why they pull the F-22, because it's a bucket that's only good for movies.

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    Post  par far Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:28 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote:Does a Tu-160 have to fly near the boarders?  I thought the white swan had ordinance that could be fired well out of range of opposing air defenses....

    They can hit anything in Ukraine without even going near the border, what I'm saying is that it would be extremely distasteful to hold a fancy parade while this mess is still on



    par far wrote:The parade is to remember the millions of Soviet people that died in the war against the fascists, it should be held to remember them....

    If they torch that cauldron before May 9th then they could have a parade but if current situation doesn't change it would be epic display of bad taste



    IF there is no parade, the western press will play it as a major fascist victory.  Having a parade on May 9 is IMVHO almost as vital as was having the Revolution Day Parade on November 7, 1941.  Fine, don't show the newest stuff, but the cadets and the t-34s, and tanks and equipment do need to be seen.  The west has to know that its actions in Ukraine are not changing things for the average Russian.


    There will be a parade on May 9th, you just have idiots here that are not in Russia or Ukraine(the closet they have gotten to war is playing call of duty on their playstation) and have no idea what is happening on the ground and have no idea what the Nazi fascists did to the Soviet people.

    If the Kherson Region referendum is true, that is huge news and it will be done in early May, before May 9th(according to reports, we don't yet know if this is true.)

    The parade happens on May 9th and if the Kherson referendum happens before that and if it passes, the butthurt in the collective west will bigger than an anal.


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    T-72B3M was hit by 3 AT munitions (all in the back = ambush), made it back to base, no one hurt.

    But, but, hits to the rear are supposed to knock out the engine and fuel tank. How could this possibly happen? Laughing

    Combination of ERA and propably western made garbage... I mean weapons.

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    Post  limb Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:37 pm

    Hole wrote:
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    T-72B3M was hit by 3 AT munitions (all in the back = ambush), made it back to base, no one hurt.

    But, but, hits to the rear are supposed to knock out the engine and fuel tank. How could this possibly happen? Laughing



    Combination of ERA and propably western made garbage... I mean weapons.

    Are you saying the little ERA plates on the roof of the T-72 can protect against EFPs and tandem warheads?

    I guess it was luck too. If the javelin hit the crew hatch on the turret. It would've penetrated because there's no era there.

    Also it's high time tanks get MAWS that detect F&F ATGMs.
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    Post  par far Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:40 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:How come you two, FP and Arkhangelsk, are not ashamed to be humiliated here? Unbelievers and cowards have no place in military forums. These worms like RTN and LIMB delight with your comments. They and people like them want to see some Russians whining. Do you have any pride, you piece of shit? You believe in Western propaganda, and you urinate on Russia and Putin yourself.

    Why, because of a 40-year-old ship and several planes? Idiots, in our country, GYPSIES jumped and made fun on the destroyed F-117 ! YES, THAT MIRACLE OF AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY, which was withdrawn from use only 7 years after the Aggression on the FRY. That's why they pull the F-22, because it's a bucket that's only good for movies.



    These are trolls and arm chair generals.

    The closest they have gotten to war is playing call of duty on their playstation, while asking mommy to get a glass of orange juice.

    You just ignore these people, I know it can be hard when they call Russians monkeys or call for no parade because these idiots have no idea about the atrocities committed by the Nazi fascists on the Soviet/Russian people.

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