Their "trump card" eh? Now Russia can't continue blowing everything up, but has to commit SOF.
Wonder why they revealed these hostages only now.
To prevent thermobaric cleansing...
Agreed. Seal off the surface and let them starve.
Or divert a river or stream...
The civilians will die if they are left there
It's tricky situation ,
SOBR should be used with NVG and small drones to map put the fortress and plan a storm
Even with special forces they will probably die anyway... these nazis will physically use these people as meatshields standing behind them to fire and kill Russian soldiers... the chances of those civilians surviving is extremely low and they will likely blow the hole place up themselves once they think there are enough Russians inside...
Thermobaric... it will be quick and thorough.
I saw a video of a train of 30-40 Grad launchers headed west. WTF is 18 howitzers gonna do?
What is it going to do?
Hopefully get shot down on its way in or hit in storage.
Just the first batch
They always do that. Send a little, see how Russia reacts, then send more
So blow it up.
Why can they not use teargas?
When you design a bunker complex the control of airflow is critical so it probably would not work well.
I'm kinda curious on Russian AEW deployment, why does Russia not seem to deploy A-50 in Crimea to monitor Black sea ?
Would be an easy shot for an S-300 system... the radar emissions would make it easy to spot passively without giving away your launch location till the missile is launched... making destroying the battery not so easy and the chance of losing an aircraft too high.
Defeating Russia is more important than its own energy security, which could collapse their economies and lead the world into an unprecedented economic and food crisis. fools.
What they say now and what happens later are different things... right now they think they are making a difference... when they realise they are hurting their own economies more than they are hurting Russia the tune will change...
Johnson is the puppet of the zionists ruling the City.
Kermit or Miss Piggy would do a much better job than blojo.
That's the sign of utter desperation. Looks like wests situation is pretty dire atm
Putin is calling their bluff... HATO is a joke it seems, yet the queue to join remains...
Unfortunately if there are civilians there then starving them out is not an option. They'll starve the civilians before they starve themselves
They will fire at Russian soldiers standing behind groups of civies too...
The problem with the Kh-25 is that it's a solid-fueled rocket. Many of them won't be reliable by now, the lifetime of solid-fueled rockets is roughly 30 years and these rockets went out of production in the mid-80s. Their average age by now would be around 40 years, assuming earlier stocks got used in Chechnya and Syria.
Properly stored they should be fine, it would be batteries that would be an issue.... worst case scenario you could wire them for free fall and for the rocket fuel to explode with the warhead and drop them like bombs... but they should be fine as rockets too.
SA-1 SAMs were still being used in the 1990s as training targets... they made about 100K of them and had fired about 13K during tests and exercises and also as targets.
What about something like the gas used at the Moscow theater. Have medical staff on standby to save the lives of the civilians and send the nazis to their fuehrer.
Any anestesiologist will tell you how complex it is to make someone go to sleep like that... concentrations are critical... too much and they die anyway... not enough and they work out what is happening and start shooting everyone and everything...
And bringing them around quickly afterwards is critical too, which was the problem for that siege even though enormous numbers were saved a large number were lost too.
Even CO is a chemical weapon, if it's used in a war!
Those civilians are dead anyway.
Ventilation systems probably have scrubbers too so chemicals might not be effective either.
Just let them starve in the tunnels. Maybe they have enough water and food, then they may not come out for 5 or 20 years. That's no problem...upstairs life goes on and downstairs they should live in eternal total war....haha X-D
Flooding would be quicker.
That was 20 years ago and involved a super strong aerosolized opiate-derived sedative agent, like a mist of fentanyl or so. Lots of people accidentally "OD'd" on it, it was kind of crude
Would have been 100% fatal in the US then as most are already on opiods...
How many can an Su-24 carry? 4? Might as well use them up in this conflict, but what do I know. May not even be worth the cost in fuel.
Any model Su-25 can carry 8 at a time and the includes the anti radar models (Kh-25MP anti radar model), and the Kh-25ML laser homing missile are the two most common and mass produced models of the Kh-25.
Current versions of the MP model have broad band seekers able to engage a range of ground based radar emitting targets. The ML model is just the AS-10 Laser homing version.
Is there a video of this thing ? I wonder if it is useful to bomb it since they are in big bunker. Very unlikely bombs can do anything to them.
Thermobaric bombs consume the oxygen around the point of detonation.... any airducts and the explosive mixture can flow into the structure as it explodes.
Shame, could have been handed over to the DNR
Russia makes lots of useful little patrol boats they could provide and support with spare parts.
Because the Russians are lazy as f***. They will only start thinking about A-50 and Tu-214 deployment once they get a NATO JASSM fired from Romanian air space stuck up their ass.
Being lazy doens't come in to it... operating an AWACS aircraft in airspace where an S-300 might be located is about the dumbest thing you can do... AWACS aircraft emit radar waves and can be detected at distances of roughly three times their own radar range which makes them easy to detect even with very basic equipment all S-300 batteries carry... they could launch a missile without search or tracking radar being needed and being quite a fast missile there would not be a lot of time to respond to such an attack. The S-300 TEL could then move easily enough.
S-400s would be even more dangerous but only because of their extra range.
A few days ago I had said that Moskva could have been hit by a NATO torpedo. Some forum members said that maybe the Moskva ran into a mine that Ukraine had laid in the past.
Yeah, lots of bullshit theories have been spouted as possible... a wormhole might have opened up and sucked part of the ship to another universe but it is not likely.
There are dozens of different mine times from floating to sea bed mines... the Ukraine has no navy and no commercial shipping in operation so they don't care if the whole Black Sea is full of mines.
The thing is Moskva must have carried out a surveillance of that area to find out if there were any such mines.
Finding mines on the sea floor is not as easy as you make it sound. They don't glow or have their own ping that immediately identifies them as being a mine.
Plus, Moskva was ringed by modern FFG escorts, incl the latest Admiral Grigorivich class.
Which puts the story about drones and anti ship missiles into perspective... no chance.
So it's quite possible that a U.S bomber B-2/B-52/any other launched a few Quickstrike-Extended Range standoff air-delivered mines at the Moskva, consequently, the Moskva got very little time to react.
The US wont send troops to the Ukraine but you think they will launch attacks?
Are you drunk?
Such a mine would be detected and the launch platform destroyed.
#US believes #Russia will target routes used for western weapons shipments to #Ukraine. Even if the they were successful in striking those routes, they would be unable to stop the shipments in their entirety. There are simply too many shipments going in - defense official, CNN
The destruction of road and rail hubs will create problems transporting in goods like food and medicine and people trying to leave, so there is that too.
Coastal missile system "Bal" delivered a high-precision strike on the objects of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
The official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said earlier that rocket troops and artillery had attacked 1,053 Ukrainian military infrastructure facilities.
They will have enormous quantities of old anti ship missiles that have not been used... conversion to dual use land attack capability likely enabled a vast storage of anti ship weapons to be used against land based targets with a good level of precision... that might otherwise not be much use.
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