Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13
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Sujoy wrote:H I Sutton states in his blog that there is "strong circumstantial evidence" that russian submarines are launching cruise missiles at Ukraine
http://www.hisutton.com/Russian-Submarines-Launching-Missiles-Ukraine.html
But Klub missiles launched from Russian subs especially in the Black Sea will probably have to fly over NATO airspace.
Unless Turkey decided to play dumb
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Russian forces destroyed all food warehouses in #Sievierodonetsk - #Luhansk Governor
#LPR troops reached the border of the #Kharkiv region and cleared the road to Kharkiv - @ntvru
Russian forces are now advancing from staging areas in the Donbas towards #Kramatorsk, which continues to suffer from persistent rocket attacks - @DefenceHQ
"Kadyrovites [Chechens] appeared in the #Kherson region. They set up their headquarters in the village of Novopetrivka"
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Fifty seventh day of combats began with announcement of #Russian M.O.D about important surrender of #Ukrainian troops inside the area of Azovstal. It's expected the remaining troops will continue surrender in the next days as pressure of #RussianArmy & #DPR will increase
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NLAW is incredibly overdesigned. Too heavy and bulky to carry in the assault, too short-ranged to use from proper standoff, basically unguided, massive overkill for most targets but super marginal when fired against tanks frontally like it was designed to be.
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#FLASH
1—#Russia refuses even to discuss a “humanitarian corridor” for #Azov to evacuate: “Azov can surrender if it wants.”
2—No one in #RF talking about #Medvedchuk.
3—No “holiday-related” ceasefires are planned now or in the future.
I am getting calmer by the hour.
Good night.
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1/2 Are the Nazis preparing to surrender Odessa?
Evacuation trains are sent from Odessa to Uzhgorod and Chernivtsi. And it’s not Odessa residents who are being evacuated, because the train includes not only passenger cars, but also cars with military equipment and army property and there are many military people among the passengers.
Is Kyiv surrendering Odessa or preparing for a conflict with Hungary and Romania? https://t.me/vicktop55/3327 #vicktop55
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#UKRAINE/#RUSSIA—Losses of the #Ukrainian forces in #RF-led campaign, as of April 21, 2022, according to #Rybar, with access to internal #UA military reports:
Tanks—503
IFVs—1,598
Personnel: 24,511 KIA, 15,823 WIA
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JohninMK wrote:Probably decided that the risk of Russia attacking is low so are moving them to somewhere where they would be of use.
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1/2 Are the Nazis preparing to surrender Odessa?
Evacuation trains are sent from Odessa to Uzhgorod and Chernivtsi. And it’s not Odessa residents who are being evacuated, because the train includes not only passenger cars, but also cars with military equipment and army property and there are many military people among the passengers.
Is Kyiv surrendering Odessa or preparing for a conflict with Hungary and Romania? https://t.me/vicktop55/3327 #vicktop55
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#UKRAINE/#RUSSIA—Losses of the #Ukrainian forces in #RF-led campaign, as of April 21, 2022, according to #Rybar, with access to internal #UA military reports:
Tanks—503
IFVs—1,598
Personnel: 24,511 KIA, 15,823 WIA
If indeed this is a military only evacuation from Odessa it makes a nice target for Russian air force. Russia most likely knew a withdrawal would happen once the Donbass battle reached a certain stage maybe it's why little attacks were seen in Odessa just enough to keep a little pressure.
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1) Spain has shipped 200 tonnes of military material, including heavy transport vehicles, to Ukraine: Spanish PM
2) Russian FSB report several Ukrainian citizens detained in Melitopol, and arsenal seized, including MANPADS, anti-tank mines and other ammunition
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RTN wrote:Low IQ Shoigu back from the dead and giving his half baked advice. This fellow was never in the military. Just an ordinary Putin henchman.
Strong statements from a contry where every
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Any special news you wanted to say mate? Cheers
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PapaDragon wrote:sepheronx wrote:...I decided against it. But I will make sure to keep an eye on it. I dont want to get my child or myself into trouble.
Just explain things to her yourself and tell her that she can ignore that nonsense at school
If anyone tries to give her a test or a grade connected to that make sure she knows that she is free to ignore it or flunk it
Only thing that matters is that she knows that she has your personal blessing to get an F in that case
Yes, I will make sure to sit her down and talk to her.
I know my wifes friend was making talking points about the war and my wife had to tell her that she isn't getting the story at all because she has now a deep hatred for Ukrainians when they were using Indians as hostages/shields and openly threatened India.
d_taddei2 wrote:Updates
1) Spain has shipped 200 tonnes of military material, including heavy transport vehicles, to Ukraine: Spanish PM
2) Russian FSB report several Ukrainian citizens detained in Melitopol, and arsenal seized, including MANPADS, anti-tank mines and other ammunition
It seems NATO has no trouble equipping LDNR forces.
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JohninMK wrote:What is this?
You are addressing this Mickey Mouse?
Opened hatches that make a back cover for rotating machine gun stations on the roof.
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Sujoy wrote:
Hungary as well:
https://hungarytoday.hu/fm-szijjarto-eu-epf-supplying-weapons-ukraine-war/
Since the beginning of the Russian invasion, the Orbán government has maintained the position that Hungary is not involved in any form of direct arms transfers to Ukraine.
Meanwhile, according to a relevant government decree, only non-lethal equipment, such as protective and medical equipment, and fuel are allowed to pass directly through Hungary’s borders to Ukraine, but others such as weapons are not.
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RTN wrote:Low IQ Shoigu back from the dead and giving his half baked advice. This fellow was never in the military. Just an ordinary Putin henchman.
He's a real warrior
You guys haven't fought a war in 20 years, and I doubt you will for another 20 years
Not much confidence in your military
So you lurk in russian forum, well I would too if I didn't have anything to write home about
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Arkanghelsk wrote:RTN wrote:Low IQ Shoigu back from the dead and giving his half baked advice. This fellow was never in the military. Just an ordinary Putin henchman.
He's a real warrior
You guys haven't fought a war in 20 years, and I doubt you will for another 20 years
Not much confidence in your military
So you lurk in russian forum, well I would too if I didn't have anything to write home about
Oh, sure they did.
And lost any single one.
If you are taking this clown out of my trashcan, let it be productive at least
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JohninMK wrote:What is this?
No idea, i have never seen this vehicle. I even doubt it is Russian made, but should be Riot control vehicle without dozer blade or front mounted screen.
Would be nice to know what it is. Styling reminds me of the Karatel by ZIL but i can not make out the logo on the front (if that even is a logo).
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JohninMK wrote:Probably decided that the risk of Russia attacking is low so are moving them to somewhere where they would be of use.
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1/2 Are the Nazis preparing to surrender Odessa?
Evacuation trains are sent from Odessa to Uzhgorod and Chernivtsi. And it’s not Odessa residents who are being evacuated, because the train includes not only passenger cars, but also cars with military equipment and army property and there are many military people among the passengers.
Is Kyiv surrendering Odessa or preparing for a conflict with Hungary and Romania? https://t.me/vicktop55/3327 #vicktop55
Don't keep her waiting.
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0nillie0 wrote:JohninMK wrote:What is this?
No idea, i have never seen this vehicle. I even doubt it is Russian made, but should be Riot control vehicle without dozer blade or front mounted screen.
Would be nice to know what it is. Styling reminds me of the Karatel by ZIL but i can not make out the logo on the front (if that even is a logo).
Doesn't look "Russian" so could be capture riot control vehicle or some type of command vehicle?
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flamming_python wrote:Point is plan B is going well
Everyone knows that plan A failed
No one has any idea what plan A was. Certainly it was not to try an take Kiev with 40,000 troops.
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The Kilo can stay submerged for 45 days and carries 4 Kalibr. Turkey closed the Bosporous on 28th Feb. Did they enter before that? How will they return to base now?Stealthflanker wrote:No, how it needs to cross NATO airspace ? There is already like 2 Kalibr capable Kilo boats in black sea.
Russia has plenty of land and air based cruise and ballistic missiles. Why are they using ships, submarines to launch missiles? I think there is no need to.
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d_taddei2 wrote:
U think neo Nazi's don't kill civilians? U think neo Nazis don't kill foreign citizens? When I was in Kiev in 2014 neo Nazi's chucked two Indian students in front of the metro train. I wasn't witness to it but I was walking down the steps to the metro when police told us the station was closed, the news reported the incident. Now if they can do this in normal day to day life then during war they can do far worse. And do u think USA cares one bit about this pro Russian journalist?
Gonzalo wasn't pro-Russian. Also, nazis not only kill but racketeers, kidnap and threaten people as well. But there is a high possibility he was arrested by SBU. Then his situation is bit different. They have hundreds of reasons to keep him alive and exploit him. Be it false charges, kangaroo courts and etc. Let's hope for the best.
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Sujoy wrote:
The Kilo can stay submerged for 45 days and carries 4 Kalibr. Turkey closed the Bosporous on 28th Feb. Did they enter before that? How will they return to base now?
Russia has plenty of land and air based cruise and ballistic missiles. Why are they using ships, submarines to launch missiles? I think there is no need to.
Sevastopol naval base is IN black Sea right in the Crimean peninsula. Where do you think Moskva was based ? and Black Sea Fleet already have like 4 Kilos already assigned to her. there is 5th which is Alrosa but she's never in good shape.
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mnztr wrote:flamming_python wrote:Point is plan B is going well
Everyone knows that plan A failed
No one has any idea what plan A was. Certainly it was not to try an take Kiev with 40,000 troops.
What if Kiev was both a feint and a recon in force to sound out Ukrainian defensive strong points for later attack and to tie down massive amounts of Ukrainian troops for first class tickets on the train to Hitler and Bandera? Now that they have located, blasted some of those positions and tested resolve they lurk in Belarus to hit them again and the mere threat of reincursion ties them down. My guess is Kiev, if the plan has ever been to take it, is only a goal after the Donbass and Odessa are liberated and secured.
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mnztr wrote:flamming_python wrote:Point is plan B is going well
Everyone knows that plan A failed
No one has any idea what plan A was. Certainly it was not to try an take Kiev with 40,000 troops.
I think Plan A was for the Russian speaking side of Ukraine to revolt against the Nazis once the Russian military moved in, but it did not work exactly as planned. I believe some of the mayors did make some promises to the Russians but then made a U-turn. I don't think there was any plan to take the capital city by force but Mariupol and other cities in the east and south was always on the cards. Once the Donbass falls (looks like it will be soon) I don't expect much resistance from the Ukrs.
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