Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13

"Bozhenka nas berezhe" (God is protecting us.)

I think it is clear that they are on their own.

Draft agreement without facts on the ground.... ohh boy.

ATLASCUB wrote:Draft agreement without facts on the ground.... ohh boy.

What agreement would that be?

https://www.rt.com/russia/554223-russia-sends-proposal-ukraine-talks/

Russia sends proposal to Ukraine

Commenting on the stalled negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, President Putin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, has told journalists that Russia forwarded to Ukraine a “draft document” with concrete wording.

“The ball is in their court, we are awaiting their response,” Peskov said on Wednesday. When asked if there was a deadline for Ukraine to respond, the Russian official indicated that it was up to Kiev. He noted, however, that the “Ukrainians are not showing much inclination toward intensifying the negotiating process.”

What's that smell.... starts with a letter s...

If any of the dimwits here think that proposal includes the desolution of Ukraine as a state, the creation of Novorossia, Malorussia, along the Dnieper, regime change in Kiev through fresh elections, a proper un-cheatable, verifiable denazification and demilitarization mechanism, signing on to Union State membership, justice for criminals etc.... I feel sorry for you.

Here's what you gonna get, Crimea recognition, Donbass autonomy, and a no NATO pledge and neutral pledge ala non-neutral Swiss, Finns and Swedes....  In other words, the bare face-saving minimum aka capitulation.

Usually it's the losing side that continuously and desperately always bids for peace.... conclusions for the wise.

However, always remember..... when stressed with uncomfortable noise, think of great Putin, vanquisher of the West, the wisest, and greatest statesman of our time....    

ATLASCUB wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/554223-russia-sends-proposal-ukraine-talks/

Russia sends proposal to Ukraine

Commenting on the stalled negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, President Putin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, has told journalists that Russia forwarded to Ukraine a “draft document” with concrete wording.

“The ball is in their court, we are awaiting their response,” Peskov said on Wednesday. When asked if there was a deadline for Ukraine to respond, the Russian official indicated that it was up to Kiev. He noted, however, that the “Ukrainians are not showing much inclination toward intensifying the negotiating process.”

What's that smell.... starts with a letter s...

If any of the dimwits here think that proposal includes the desolution of Ukraine as a state, the creation of Novorossia, Malorussia, along the Dnieper, regime change in Kiev through fresh elections, a proper un-cheatable, verifiable denazification and demilitarization mechanism, signing on to Union State membership, justice for criminals etc.... I feel sorry for you.

Here's what you gonna get, Crimea recognition, Donbass autonomy, and a no NATO pledge and neutral pledge ala non-neutral Swiss, Finns and Swedes....  In other words, the bare face-saving minimum aka capitulation.

Usually it's the losing side that continuously and desperately always bids for peace.... conclusions for the wise.

However, always remember..... when stressed with uncomfortable noise, think of great Putin, vanquisher of the West, the wisest, and greatest statement of our time....    

And how did you conclude in the text that there will be no creation of Novorussiya, etc ? Are you so maliciously stupid or what is it about ?

Podlodka77 wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/554223-russia-sends-proposal-ukraine-talks/

Russia sends proposal to Ukraine

Commenting on the stalled negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, President Putin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, has told journalists that Russia forwarded to Ukraine a “draft document” with concrete wording.

“The ball is in their court, we are awaiting their response,” Peskov said on Wednesday. When asked if there was a deadline for Ukraine to respond, the Russian official indicated that it was up to Kiev. He noted, however, that the “Ukrainians are not showing much inclination toward intensifying the negotiating process.”

What's that smell.... starts with a letter s...

If any of the dimwits here think that proposal includes the desolution of Ukraine as a state, the creation of Novorossia, Malorussia, along the Dnieper, regime change in Kiev through fresh elections, a proper un-cheatable, verifiable denazification and demilitarization mechanism, signing on to Union State membership, justice for criminals etc.... I feel sorry for you.

Here's what you gonna get, Crimea recognition, Donbass autonomy, and a no NATO pledge and neutral pledge ala non-neutral Swiss, Finns and Swedes....  In other words, the bare face-saving minimum aka capitulation.

Usually it's the losing side that continuously and desperately always bids for peace.... conclusions for the wise.

However, always remember..... when stressed with uncomfortable noise, think of great Putin, vanquisher of the West, the wisest, and greatest statement of our time....    

And how did you conclude in the text that there will be no creation of New Russia, etc ? Are you so maliciously stupid or what is it about ?

I already figured you to be one of the proud dimwits here but considering other dimwits will probably ask the same cause their chip lacks the processing power to understand how this works I'll lay it out....it's simple. Facts on the ground and Russian territorial control of Ukraine do not support a proposal so "ambitious". Ambitious for the Kremlin gnomes of course, it should be the bare minimum that should be demanded relative to incurred costs.

It's ok though, something tells me the Kiev regime will simply sit on it until the Donbass is done in a 1-2 month period least.  You don't concede even a face-saving crumb until it's earned by your enemy - in this case Russia. Although I could be surprised..... but after the Istanbul fiasco, I think the Kiev regime got a grip on the fundamentals. I had not seen a shake down that big since 1991. Bow, tide and clean demeanor clearly didn't help now did it...

ATLASCUB wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/554223-russia-sends-proposal-ukraine-talks/

Russia sends proposal to Ukraine

Commenting on the stalled negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, President Putin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, has told journalists that Russia forwarded to Ukraine a “draft document” with concrete wording.

“The ball is in their court, we are awaiting their response,” Peskov said on Wednesday. When asked if there was a deadline for Ukraine to respond, the Russian official indicated that it was up to Kiev. He noted, however, that the “Ukrainians are not showing much inclination toward intensifying the negotiating process.”

What's that smell.... starts with a letter s...

If any of the dimwits here think that proposal includes the desolution of Ukraine as a state, the creation of Novorossia, Malorussia, along the Dnieper, regime change in Kiev through fresh elections, a proper un-cheatable, verifiable denazification and demilitarization mechanism, signing on to Union State membership, justice for criminals etc.... I feel sorry for you.

Here's what you gonna get, Crimea recognition, Donbass autonomy, and a no NATO pledge and neutral pledge ala non-neutral Swiss, Finns and Swedes....  In other words, the bare face-saving minimum aka capitulation.

Usually it's the losing side that continuously and desperately always bids for peace.... conclusions for the wise.

However, always remember..... when stressed with uncomfortable noise, think of great Putin, vanquisher of the West, the wisest, and greatest statement of our time....    

And how did you conclude in the text that there will be no creation of New Russia, etc ? Are you so maliciously stupid or what is it about ?

I already figured you to be one of the proud dimwits here but considering other dimwits will probably ask the same as their chip lacks the processing power to understand how this works....it's simple. Facts on the ground and Russian territorial control of Ukraine do not support a proposal so "ambitious". Ambitious for the Kremlin gnomes of course, it should be the bare minimum that should be demanded relative to incurred costs.

It's ok though, something tells me the Kiev regime will simply sit on it until the Donbass is done with in a 1-2 month period.  You don't concede even a face-saving crumb until it's earned. Although I could be surprised but after the Istanbul fiasco, I think the Kiev regime got a grip on the fundamentals.

And you know that Russia wanted to control the whole of Ukraine ?
Whoever lacks a "processor in their head", we'll see in the end ...
And I see that you also know the ambitions of the Kremlin ?
Since you are obviously good with Putin and I see that you know everything, I advise you to go to the Kremlin and kiss his ass ...

I've been good with Putin since he balked in 2014. No coming back from that. Pray tell, here we are.

ATLASCUB wrote:I've been good with Putin since he balked in 2014. No coming back from that. Pray tell, here we are.

I have no respect for the prophets, especially the pro-Western ones.
You see, if all you wrote was a de facto and factual situation, I would write “all the best” and i would give you the like for the comment.”However, you fart into space and destroy your brain cells with gases.
That's not good for you, bro.

I'm not pro-western. I'm just not pro-Putin and cadre either. Nor pro-Russian for that matter. My kin benefits from a "fairer world order".... whomever brings that about, and works towards that has my attention. Don't matter the face, what matters is the deed. There is a difference. Russia could capitulate and go back to being a Western third rate whore like in 1991 and the world will keep on spinning. You better believe that.

Clearly the sloppy attempts by the Russian leadership to get to that state are painful to watch... but it's still the best effort out there, even if horrible at that.

The us vs. them tribal paradigm doesn't work with me, no matter how hard the dimwitts here try when their self-defense mechanism engages in noise combat. There is no safe space for Russians, definitely not on English written forums. Maybe in sme parts of the Runet where Kievan trolls, and NSA troll farms haven't touched yet. In other words, suck it up. Not my job to convince you, or anyone here... only to lay it out there for those willing to consider a different view other than the fairy tale one Russian propaganda is selling. Don't give a shit about NATO/Anglo propaganda either - least of all, known quantity as it's.

And when it comes to posting record and consistency... boy... What's there to say? There should be a Fool awards competition for the most prideful dimwitt of all, safe trip, and travel to the Donbass. God knows they've had fierce competition for the last 8 years when making dumb arguments and predictions about this conflict. To see the backflips, and 180's occur so quick, so shamelessly..... was a thing to marvel at for 99% of this forum.

And yes, when combatting noise there is the ignore button or happy Putin thoughts. Either one works. As we all know, people barely practice it despite encouraging others, swallowing it all with impotency. It's what it's.

U.S government just announced that they are sending 40,000 rounds for 18 (either M198 or M777) howitzers. That’s 2200 rounds per gun. Canada and UK have announced that they are shipping M-777 to Ukraine.

Basically West trying their best to keep the conflict alive as long as possible and in the process kill as many Russians and Ukrainians possible.

Podlodka77 wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/554223-russia-sends-proposal-ukraine-talks/

Russia sends proposal to Ukraine

Commenting on the stalled negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, President Putin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, has told journalists that Russia forwarded to Ukraine a “draft document” with concrete wording.

“The ball is in their court, we are awaiting their response,” Peskov said on Wednesday. When asked if there was a deadline for Ukraine to respond, the Russian official indicated that it was up to Kiev. He noted, however, that the “Ukrainians are not showing much inclination toward intensifying the negotiating process.”

What's that smell.... starts with a letter s...

If any of the dimwits here think that proposal includes the desolution of Ukraine as a state, the creation of Novorossia, Malorussia, along the Dnieper, regime change in Kiev through fresh elections, a proper un-cheatable, verifiable denazification and demilitarization mechanism, signing on to Union State membership, justice for criminals etc.... I feel sorry for you.

Here's what you gonna get, Crimea recognition, Donbass autonomy, and a no NATO pledge and neutral pledge ala non-neutral Swiss, Finns and Swedes....  In other words, the bare face-saving minimum aka capitulation.

Usually it's the losing side that continuously and desperately always bids for peace.... conclusions for the wise.

However, always remember..... when stressed with uncomfortable noise, think of great Putin, vanquisher of the West, the wisest, and greatest statement of our time....    

And how did you conclude in the text that there will be no creation of Novorussiya, etc ? Are you so maliciously stupid or what is it about ?

The neo-cons in the US, the true people that control the cocaine snorting clown puppet, do not want peace, so this war will go on.

And I think this is a good thing.

The reason I say this is because, the longer this goes on, the more territory that Russia takes(if it was end right now, Russia is not giving back the places it has taken, The Donbass, the Kherson and other areas under Russian control is not going back to the Ukraine.) Russia will take the regions that have economic value and leave the rest.

As for all these negations and all the draft agreements talk, this is just to show the world that Russia is talking.

The oil prices maybe hitting $180 per barrel, when moron wins the French elections, the EU is going to put an oil embargo on Russia.

JohninMK wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:Draft agreement without facts on the ground.... ohh boy.

What agreement would that be?

The one Atlascub drafted for Peskov.

Whats the agreement?


Surrender or die.

Surrender - Sign here: _________

Die: - No Signature Necessary

And as usual every evening, cruise missiles incoming.

Hole wrote:
Don´t know if this was posted before, railroads in the East.

Su-24M with KAB-500L. Back-up or are they being used now?

Su-34 with KAB-500S

Absolutely lovely, someone in the MOD read my messages

Su24 is a go!

A test launch of the RS-28 Sarmat ICBM took place at the Plesetsk cosmodrome

https://t.me/intelslava/26104

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:And as usual every evening, cruise missiles incoming.

I want hypersonics!




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Первый пуск межконтинентальной баллистической ракеты "Сармат ".

https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/56917

**** YEAH