Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

High-precision sea- and air-based long-range weapons on the northern outskirts of Kremenchuk destroyed fuel production facilities of an oil refinery, as well as storage facilities for oil products to supply military equipment of Ukrainian troops.

During the night, 6 enemy assets were hit by high-precision air-based missiles. Among them: 3 strong points and areas of concentration of manpower and military equipment, as well as 3 ammunition depots in Barvenkovo and Novaya Dmitrovka in Kharkov Region.

Operational-tactical and army aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit 56 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 2 command posts and 53 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 1 fuel storage facility near Novaya Dmitrovka.

Up to 160 nationalists, as well as more than 23 armoured vehicles, artillery mounts and cars, were destroyed.

Missile troops carried out 19 strikes during the night. Destroyed: 4 command posts of the nationalists, including the 81st Separate Airborne Assault Brigade and the 110th Territorial Defence Brigade, and three ammunition depots. 21 areas of Ukrainian manpower and military equipment concentration were also destroyed.

Up to 240 nationalists, as well as more than 28 armoured vehicles, artillery mounts and cars, were destroyed.

Artillery units carried out 967 fire missions during the day. Destroyed: 33 command posts, 929 strong points, areas of manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 5 missile and artillery weapons and ammunition depots.

Russian air defence means shot down 13 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Mezhurino, Balakleya, Borodoyarkoe, Nevskoe in Kharkov Region and Vysokoe and Chernobaevka in Kherson Region.

In addition, Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile and cannon system shot down 1 Ukrainian Tochka-U missile and 18 rockets of a multiple-launch rocket system over Chernobaeka.

In total, 141 aircraft and 110 helicopters, 566 unmanned aerial vehicles, 265 anti-aircraft missile systems, 2,526 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 283 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,096 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,362 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

Fires in strategic oil depots within Russia.
https://www.rt.com/russia/554454-oil-depot-on-fire/

So how many more months for kramatorsk and slavyansk to be taken?

limb wrote:So how many more months for kramatorsk and slavyansk to be taken?

They're doing a pincer from the Kharkov direction centred on Slavyansk/Kramatorsk it looks like, with the Ukrainian forces north of Slavyansk coming under encirclement

I'd say 2-3 more days until the pincer is completed. How long it would take to clear the towns themselves - dunno.

flamming_python wrote:

limb wrote:So how many more months for kramatorsk and slavyansk to be taken?

They're doing a pincer from the Kharkov direction centred on Slavyansk/Kramatorsk it looks like, with the Ukrainian forces north of Slavyansk coming under encirclement

I'd say 2-3 more days until the pincer is completed. How long it would take to clear the towns themselves - dunno.

As long as the Ukrainians stay in their many fortifications, they can be attacked at a distance until worn out, and that shouldn't take too long.

But if they retreat into the city itself and start hanging out in apartment complexes etc, it'll be a drawn out affair.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

As long as the Ukrainians stay in their many fortifications, they can be attacked at a distance until worn out, and that shouldn't take too long.

But if they retreat into the city itself and start hanging out in apartment complexes etc, it'll be a drawn out affair.

A lot of VSU are already garrisoning the city. The rest may try to withdraw into the towns as Russia completes the pincer - but that would mean they would have to come out of their fortifications and into the line of fire of artillery and air power. Their call.

Can someone with civil engineering experience explain the nature of ukrainian uber fortifications in avdeevka and the gorlovka outskirts? Am I to understand that these fortifications are so strong that not even 1500kg aviation bombs, TOS-1, 2S7s, calibres, iskanders, tyulpans, etc can destroy them and kill their inhabitants? Is the spirit of bandera keeping them intact and creating an energy shield that makes them impenetrable to assault to such an extent that russians and DLNPR troops keep getting repulsed when they attack them?

Updates

1) Russian army deployed big amount of equipment and military at Velyka Novosilka - Novodarivka - Malynivka frontline and attempting to advance towards Zaporizhzhia

2) 9 Russian missiles hit yesterday refinery and power plant in Kremenchuk yesterday

3) Head of Ukrainian railways company says 5 railway station were hit with missiles in central and western Ukraine this morning. Delays up to 90 minutes for some trains in western Ukraine due to destruction of railway infrastructure in missile strikes - Ukrzaliznytsya.
2 missile strikes this morning at railway infrastructure in Rivne region - head of regional administration. And Electrical substation damaged in Krasne town of L'viv region as result of missile strike.

4)Blinken in Poland after visit to Ukraine tells US traveling press they met for 3 hours in Kyiv with President Zelenskyy and his team after traveling by train from SW Ukraine. US diplomats will go back and Kyiv embassy could reopen in weeks

5) US announcing - $713 million in Foreign Military Financing for 16 European countries, including $322 million for Ukraine - Foreign military sale $165 million for non-US/NATO, i.e., Russian ammunition to Ukraine

6) Senior officials announce US diplomats will return to Ukraine "as early as this week," with day trips to Lviv. And Bridget Brink will be nominated as next US Ambassador to Kyiv

7) Ukrainian intelligence reporting offensive build-up of Russian troops in Kherson region on Kryvyi Rih direction - Head of Kryvyi Rih military administration Vilkul

ALAMO wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
This 'agony' I fear may go on even until the last Ukrainian male is unable to fight, and they start fitting suicide belts to women and children. There is nothing to 'win' in this war. Russia hasn't come up with anything clever so far
There is a total turn to the far-right and Banderization in the Ukraine now.
It's inaccurate to say it was like this over the past years; since the end of the 1st war they moved the extremism and many of the extremists to under the surface or at most to the Donbass as it all interfered with society and public image. But all this stuff is rapidly being resurfaced now and given complete reign over the country.

Oh, the wrong pill, again?
You still didn't answer about the alternative.
What alternative had Russia, after 8 years of continuous struggle putting Ukraine into political resolve?
You play with the cards you have, not the ones you would like to get.
404 was turned into Banderastan already, banderization was proceeding rapidly, and each day they would be getting stronger only.
It was not the Russian invasion that turned it on.
They are zombified already, 8 years is a whole elementary school period. There is a generation raised with the daily load of bullshit applied. A few pages back, you have a cartoon presented to the school kids. Take a look at the school books they have there, how are the classes arranged, and what is being presented to the young ones.

There is a funny YT channel with a guy who trolls Ukrs on chat roulette :

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuK31IQrgoL9J-wrzBOkdaw

Pacan is fantastic, but aside from a good dose of humor, listen carefully to his interlocutors. Sure he picked the "best" ones, still, it gives some impression.
We might have loughted hearing that Jesus was a Ukrainian, or that they have invented the wheel, etc.
But in reality, it is not funny.
It is a creation of a nation based on lies. Tons of them are applied daily.
Lies and the worst form of nationalism, instructing them not on how to improve their county, but rather how to destroy the others.
They is no more Ukraine. There is Galichina and occupied territories that must be set free. What will be the fate of the remaining Galichina, is another story.  And frankly speaking, I don't give a fuk.

I tumbled on youtube on random chatroulettes with russian speakers and ukrainians.
It is frightening that they believe everything and everyone who speaks anything besides what they want to hear that they are Kremln bots and are living in the worst conditions. Some even believe Moskovich people have had to sanctions been destroyed to conditions of slums like in the Favela.

They believe it is Russians who bombed Donbass for 8 years and Ukrainian forces. It is ridiculous and the more I watch such videos the more I get the impression that denazification needs to take place among civilians as well. Bandera is their hero. There are no nazis in the Ukraine! Azov are not Nazis! Tornado are no nazis. There were no atrocities committed and even if they have been like killing and mutilating russian POWs this is justice for "GENOCIDE" of ukrainians. They get told the russians came to annihilate them all.

Denazification needs to take place not just among military personal and political figures but also among civilians at least the most active,provocative and militant propagandists.

owais.usmani wrote:

Arrow wrote:

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:There is one CCTV video supposedly showing the moment one of the Bryansk fires started, and the explosion is preceded by a whining noise, like an incoming missile/rocket.

If it is indeed from Bryansk, then it definitely was an "external" attack.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1518466556535136261

This video pretty much confirms that this was a definite missile strike in Bryansk.

There was a time when many of us including me used to think that any attack on Russian mainland by NATO or its accomplices would instantly trigger a nuclear response. I guess its pretty clear now that is not how it is working. So expect many more attacks on Russian soil in the coming days and weeks.

Assuming it's not a video from elsewhere and that it doesn't have a soundtrack added to it. You know the Ukr propaganda machine I presume

No, a missile attack by a country Russia is at war with against the Russian mainland will not trigger a nuclear response. It's just part of the war. Russia attacks their territory, they try to attack Russia's, and occasionally succeed.

If it turns out to be a missile system that NATO supplied - then that's the sort of thing that will be remembered and the next time NATO is at war with somebody, that somebody will be provided the missile systems necessary to hit NATO territory too by a certain somebody else.

limb wrote:So how many more months for kramatorsk and slavyansk to be taken?

As long as it takes I guess but I am pretty confident it will be a fraction of the 20 years it took the US and it's Empire of Lies to loose a war against yet another Third World country. "The Ghost of Vietnam" proved to be a real choker for the US as they are really struggling to win any wars since then.

Well at least they managed to kill millions of innocent civilians in the process. These damn Russians just refuse to kill civilians and now the Nazi Ukrs will just have to kill their own, but hey who cares

limb wrote:Can someone with civil engineering experience explain the nature of ukrainian uber fortifications in avdeevka and the gorlovka outskirts? Am I to understand that these fortifications are so strong that not even 1500kg aviation bombs, TOS-1, 2S7s, calibres, iskanders, tyulpans, etc can destroy them and kill their inhabitants? Is the spirit of bandera keeping them intact and creating an energy shield that makes them impenetrable to assault to such an extent that russians and DLNPR troops keep getting repulsed when they attack them?

When you're starving and running low on ammo, no amount of fortification will save you. If you add about a week of continuous traditional Chinese music, they will probably want to leave anyway.

owais.usmani wrote:

There was a time when many of us including me used to think that any attack on Russian mainland by NATO or its accomplices would instantly trigger a nuclear response. I guess its pretty clear now that is not how it is working. So expect many more attacks on Russian soil in the coming days and weeks.

That's one of the reasons why we have "Proxy Wars" - so that some idiot would not press the "go nuclear" button.

Some observations :

( 1 ) Irrespective of the Ukrainian ideology , Russia had to respond , as anyone else would . Tribal warfare , identity politics , the curse of humanity .

( 2 ) Ukrainian conscripts are legitimate targets ? But their Nazi leadership is not ? " because they will be replaced ? " I always weed my Garden , for new growth !

( 3 ) If video is true , then sounds like air-strike in Bryansk ! If American missiles reaching Russia , then Russian missiles ( by Yemen , Syrian , Belarusian ) can reach ...

( 4 ) Good to see Rail being taken out , together with power generation . Roads can be taken out by cluster " aircraft Runway denial " munitions .

Taking out the rail junctions and stations is smart. They will take time and effort to restore and afterwards they can just be targeted again.

Better than taking out bridges. You can spend years building a new railroad bridge, it's massive overkill to target such infrastructure considering Russia plans to actually take control over this territory.

You can't target the trains themselves; they move with a mix of civilian and cargo wagons on purpose.

You can't do much about road vehicles such as civilian vans or civilian haulers that vehicles may be hidden in. Unless you have precise information from multiple sources. But even then it's a waste. And it's a waste to try and target the roads themselves.
However traveling by road is taxing when all the fuel depots have been taken out. It's a lot less efficient then rail.
You can just hit the place where they're delivering to ultimately.

nomadski wrote:
Some observations :

( 1 )  Irrespective of the Ukrainian ideology , Russia had to respond , as anyone else would . Tribal warfare , identity politics , the curse of humanity .

( 2 )  Ukrainian conscripts are legitimate targets ? But their Nazi leadership is not ? "  because they will be replaced ? " I always weed my Garden , for new growth !

( 3 )  If video is true , then sounds like air-strike in Bryansk !  If American missiles reaching Russia , then Russian missiles  ( by Yemen , Syrian , Belarusian ) can reach ...

( 4 )  Good to see Rail being taken out , together with power generation . Roads can be taken out by cluster " aircraft Runway denial " munitions .

As I've said/asked peeps from the outset:
1. how would US react if Russia/China convinced Canada and/or Mexico to install nuclear missiles and air defence systems...noting Cuban MC. So why should Russia be expected to surrender part of its nuclear deterrent if US is not so willing?
2. how many ethnic Russians have been killed since 2014 by the uki military?

Strategic positions is all. Was there another way? Minsk parts 1&2 perhaps but at the end of the day red lines are red lines and choice was removed by NATO as they fed yet another country to the slaughter for their own ambition.

limb wrote:Can someone with civil engineering experience explain the nature of ukrainian uber fortifications in avdeevka and the gorlovka outskirts? Am I to understand that these fortifications are so strong that not even 1500kg aviation bombs, TOS-1, 2S7s, calibres, iskanders, tyulpans, etc can destroy them and kill their inhabitants? Is the spirit of bandera keeping them intact and creating an energy shield that makes them impenetrable to assault to such an extent that russians and DLNPR troops keep getting repulsed when they attack them?

Judging by the photos and videos yesterday and others previously,  of dead Nazis and the almost complete destruction of their fortified positions , all those weapons you listed seem to be doing a fine job of it. Seems to me its more a case of Russia and DNR attacking sporadically and lauching probing attacks, because anywhere where they have hit them hard so far, the Wehrmacht have folded rather than being able to repulse the attacks. Why are they doing this piecemeal and not going on an all out offensive after two months of preperations? … your guess is as good as mine.

flamming_python wrote:Ukraine will liberate Kherson, Zaporizhzhya regions, Donbass and Crimea from Russian troops.

That list of Oblasts keeps growing. I think eventually these guys will end up like the Polish government in exile. Or at best like Taiwan who still claims Mongolia as part of the ROC.

Serberus wrote:

limb wrote:Can someone with civil engineering experience explain the nature of ukrainian uber fortifications in avdeevka and the gorlovka outskirts? Am I to understand that these fortifications are so strong that not even 1500kg aviation bombs, TOS-1, 2S7s, calibres, iskanders, tyulpans, etc can destroy them and kill their inhabitants? Is the spirit of bandera keeping them intact and creating an energy shield that makes them impenetrable to assault to such an extent that russians and DLNPR troops keep getting repulsed when they attack them?

Judging by the photos and videos yesterday and others previously,  of dead Nazis and the almost complete destruction of their fortified positions , all those weapons you listed seem to be doing a fine job of it. Seems to me its more a case of Russia and DNR attacking sporadically and lauching probing attacks, because anywhere where they have hit them hard so far, the Wehrmacht have folded rather than being able to repulse the attacks. Why are they doing this piecemeal and not going on an all out offensive after two months of preperations? … your guess is as good as mine.

I suspect that the LDNR forces have been asked to maintain pressure on Sarumans Uruk-hai and to pin them in place to take away any option of mobility or remobilisation. Break-throughs or any sort of deep penetration would actually be disadvantageous considering the obvious plan of taking the Orc collective formations from the flanks and enveloping them to develop cauldron(s). Pin the maggot-horde in place so they can't move, then shape the battleground around them to the advantage of Russia/Donbass as you hammer their supply lines and take total control of the air. Roll them back if the circumstances dictate but their is little to be gained by achieving a breakthrough in somewhere like Avdeeyka or Marinka unless the rest of the armies disposition is able to capitalise on such a move, especially if moving to take advantage of the break increases your own losses as your troops fight thru the breech and are beset by counterattacks. Better to protect your forces, play to your strengths and just keep hammering these Nazi cnts into the dirt until it turns into red mud and wait until their flanks collapse from the effects of the cauldron closing and heating up.

Serberus wrote:

limb wrote:Can someone with civil engineering experience explain the nature of ukrainian uber fortifications in avdeevka and the gorlovka outskirts? Am I to understand that these fortifications are so strong that not even 1500kg aviation bombs, TOS-1, 2S7s, calibres, iskanders, tyulpans, etc can destroy them and kill their inhabitants? Is the spirit of bandera keeping them intact and creating an energy shield that makes them impenetrable to assault to such an extent that russians and DLNPR troops keep getting repulsed when they attack them?

Judging by the photos and videos yesterday and others previously,  of dead Nazis and the almost complete destruction of their fortified positions , all those weapons you listed seem to be doing a fine job of it. Seems to me its more a case of Russia and DNR attacking sporadically and lauching probing attacks, because anywhere where they have hit them hard so far, the Wehrmacht have folded rather than being able to repulse the attacks. Why are they doing this piecemeal and not going on an all out offensive after two months of preperations? … your guess is as good as mine.

Keeping Russian equipment and personnel losses down. Remember the Ukrainians and NATO have designed their defense to cause maximum losses for the Russians as to wear them down.

Serberus wrote:
Judging by the photos and videos yesterday and others previously,  of dead Nazis and the almost complete destruction of their fortified positions , all those weapons you listed seem to be doing a fine job of it. Seems to me its more a case of Russia and DNR attacking sporadically and lauching probing attacks, because anywhere where they have hit them hard so far, the Wehrmacht have folded rather than being able to repulse the attacks. Why are they doing this piecemeal and not going on an all out offensive after two months of preperations? … your guess is as good as mine.

As I read, it's more of a case of advance a little, find the enemy, call in airpower, artillery, prepare for any counterattacks, then assault or advance further.

The prioritization is on minimizing one's own losses

Nevertheless the advance from the north is picking up so we should see the Donbass pocket being divided into several smaller ones over the coming week or two.

When the Russians were advancing at a high tempo, they were suffering a considerable amount of losses.

Will this affect the shipping of oil to Germany, my highlight? Could Russia use it as an excuse to stop so that Germany exerts pressure on Ukraine to stop?

It really smells of a NATO op.

The article linked will bring you up to date on the Western view of the conflict and situation, if you can stand reading it.  

The Transneft-Druzhba Oil Depot, located in the city of Bryansk around 70 miles from the Ukrainian border, caught fire at 2am local time before a second fire broke out at a nearby military facility around 15 minutes later, Russian state media said this morning.

Video of the moment one of the fires broke out appeared to capture the sound of an incoming missile before a large explosion and fireball. Bryansk is a logistical hub for Russian forces battling Ukraine in Donbas, while the Druzhba pipeline is one of the main routes for Russian oil to reach Europe.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10749921/Giant-inferno-Russian-oil-storage-amid-suspicion-strike-Ukraine.html

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"Today at 4:15 am Russian air defence crews shot down two Ukrainian drones" in the Rylsky district, Kursk region on the border with #Ukraine, governor Roman Starovoyt said on Telegram


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after 2 drones were shot down in the Kursk region we can assume the attack was done by drones.